GATOR PIT ? ? ? ?

[uglydog]

I am not a pitbull breeder, but it does not take a pit bull breeder or any specific breed to know that knowledge and research and knowing what you are talking about in any breed makes a difference in the final results of breeding.
U don't have to go to craiglist to see that its in any and every dog classified section.

 This dogs works purty good and this one is okay but that purty good dog, will make that okay dogs pups even better cause they are gonna come out 50/50 of both parents. WRONG WRONG WRONG,

So the dog gets the job done, good for you, for how long? how long does the dog last? People breeding for better dogs are looking at the whole picture, the long lineage, and dog breeding is not like melting pot. If you breed okay to okay, you might get a throwback to a really good dog in the dogs past lineage. You are taking a gamble you are most likely to end up with majority of mediocre dogs, and that is awaste of time when there are plenty of good dogs avilable if you do a little homework and research what you are doing.

[BIG BEN]

 What I was getting at is, just like some of the comments already stated. The blood lines of good pits are so diluted it would take years of breeding and culling to get back to a certain strain of great dogs. Then you would be lucky to get what exactly what you want. Time is $ and when you got to where you want to be the puppies you would be wanting to sell would cost to much for an average hog dogger to pay because it took that one person years of his time.

[sgt.davis]

quote author=UNDERDOG link=topic=21836.msg179771#msg179771 date=1290617412]
This is what most folks think of now when someone mentions APBT....this is were some of them gator mouth dogs come from ha ha ....prolly want to mute the music tho....not one of these dogs looks like it could function as a working dog....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlCH4FI0HaU&list=PL124CB9E3EA7F77E8&index=14&playnext=2
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THIS THREAD HAS GOT WAY OFF TOPIC. SINCE WE ARE OFF TOPIC I GUESS ILL COMMENT. THOSE DOGS ARE SO OUTTA SHAPE. THEY CANT EVEN FUNTION. I  THINK SOME ARE LOOKING TO FAR INTO IT. PEOPLE CATCH HOGS EVERY DAY USING UR EVERYDAY PITS.  THEY USAULLY HAVE A SHORT LIFE SPAN SO RAISING THEM WOULD BE MORE EXCPENSIVE. U CAN GET A DOG THAT WILL CATCH AND SERVE ITS PURPOSE ALMOST ANYWHERE. SO GET WHAT U NEED AND USE IT TILL U NEED ANOTHER ONE. IM RAISING MY OWN CATCH DOGS AND ITS TO EASY TO GET ATTATCHED AND IT COST ALOT MORE THIS WAY. I HAVE COME TO LEARN ITS SMARTER TO JUST BUY A BULLDOG AND USE HIM. SOMETIMES THEY WILL LAST FOR YEARS  AND SOMETIMES NOT. THATS JUST HOW IT GOES. JUST MY OPINION.

[sportsman]

understood that but cant agree with it, only because he said he raises catchdogs, labeled himself as a breeder of this controversial breed, i think good strike dogs that are taught well do better than one just bred well, pitbulls bred well are guaranteed to perform well as well, so for them its more about power and ability than only being taught, we can all agree that its harder to train a strike dog, just look at the dog trader, more and more need finished strike dogs and less need catchdogs,, i am not a breeder of either, but I know I wouldnt call myself one then say I only get any ole dog off the street and just use it

[raider54]

This is what most folks think of now when someone mentions APBT....this is were some of them gator mouth dogs come from ha ha ....prolly want to mute the music tho....not one of these dogs looks like it could function as a working dog....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlCH4FI0HaU&list=PL124CB9E3EA7F77E8&index=14&playnext=2

Aint that the truth!

[T-Bob Parker]

I like what many of you have said, It brings to my mind the example of a construction site, one guy will roll up with a Dewalt cordless set and take good care of it and get years of use out of it but will have paid a hefty price. The other fellow will figure if he's gonna use his tools everyday and wear them out anyways, he may as well get whatever is cheapest and just replace them every few months. No matter how much crap each of them talk, neither one will ever change the others mind.


Maybe it's sounds simple but it's how I see the entire catchdog debate.

[sportsman]

lol good analogy, simple is right tho, now I have heard from more than one person that you can tell a craftsman by his tools, that doesnt really apply to brands no, but imagine if you were the one paying for this construction or gm'n or super'n it, 2 fellas both claiming to be subs roll up wanting the same contract, by the look of it the guy with the newer higher quality gear may give you more of a reason to trust his standards, my view/analogy is take a good meal for instance, one may say its not how you cook it,its how it tastes, id say its all in the ingredients, not the stove, now when folks try and give you the recipe, Id say take it and do want you wish, but dont knock it til you try it

[BIG CHRIS]

the dogs on youtube are just a fat headed spin off of the original APBT, those dogs are known as american bullies they are water down deluted versions of a real american pitbull terrier. their main bloodlines are RAZORS EDGE/ GOTTI/ GREYLINE/ CALI KING PIN and the list goes on they were not bred for drive determination to excel at the task they were bred for. they have a calmer more mellow attitude. i have APBT and american bullies on my yard, and i would not recommend putten the bullies in the woods no lungs what so ever. more then willing to share pics of both breeds side by side

[Draggin Weight]

The bullies  are a composite breed also. juan gotti was a 1/2 pit x english bulldog  cross

[coyote hunter]

to each his own, i havent paid for a catchdog yet and have had two good ones   both were given to me becuz to their ex owners said they were worthless but ive caught alot of hogs behind both of em  i dont know their bloodlines or backgrounds or nothin an i can box em with any dog anytime an wont get a growl out of them  but put a hog in front of them and its game on  my first was a black one named sox  rip boy  an my second is a BLUE ONE NAMED BLUE  both get the job done an r perfect for me  no ppl aggression no dog aggression  strictly hogs only  now i do take time to break them from livestock but thats never been hard so far  to me catchdogs r a dime a dozen  some r better than others but that goes for strike dogs too  some wrk harder than others  as for gator pits i have a papered gator in my hs  thats wut the paperwork said so i have to agree an believe it  if u dont u dont  oh well  ill put any pit i got on a hog    as for catchdog  if it answers a bay an holds that hog til i get there then i have a good catchdog  if not ill go find another one that will   to each his own but im happy with my catchdog

[Beejay]

gator pits are a type of bloodline just like colby or rednose or budro or brindle  my house dog is a gator pit  best bite ive ever had n a dog   thats all it is tho man is the name of that dogs bloodline  try one  ill bet u like it

Can you post a ped to look at??

 

[sportsman]

to each his own, i havent paid for a catchdog yet and have had two good ones   both were given to me becuz to their ex owners said they were worthless but ive caught alot of hogs behind both of em  i dont know their bloodlines or backgrounds or nothin an i can box em with any dog anytime an wont get a growl out of them  but put a hog in front of them and its game on  my first was a black one named sox  rip boy  an my second is a BLUE ONE NAMED BLUE  both get the job done an r perfect for me  no ppl aggression no dog aggression  strictly hogs only  now i do take time to break them from livestock but thats never been hard so far  to me catchdogs r a dime a dozen  some r better than others but that goes for strike dogs too  some wrk harder than others  as for gator pits i have a papered gator in my hs  thats wut the paperwork said so i have to agree an believe it  if u dont u dont  oh well  ill put any pit i got on a hog    as for catchdog  if it answers a bay an holds that hog til i get there then i have a good catchdog  if not ill go find another one that will   to each his own but im happy with my catchdog

i wouldnt say you had bullies, and I thought that blue dog was named Red? hes a good one

[coyote hunter]

haha sportsman  i had a half bully remember  from wut dusty said he caught hard when he did catch  an we can that blue dog red blue green hell purple  he catches hard an catches ear so hes a keeper   call him cupcake lol   ill b back hunting by next weekend hopefully  novios doin real good  hes up playin with bones now  stitches come out in a cuple of days

[geronimo]

i like your answer coyote hunter what ever works for you its your dog

[DEERDUDE]

BIGGEST PIT I'VE EVER SAW WAS BOBBY HALLS DOG ( ROBERT ) THINK HE WAS BOUDREAUX BRED OUT OF ELI OR BULLYSON WEIGHTED 75 OR 80 POUNDS MEANEST PIT I EVER SAW WHEN HE WAS IN THE HOUSE BOBBY NEVER LOCKED IT AND ANYONE THAT KNOWS BOBBY KNOWS HE HAD A LITTLE JEWERLY !!!
 

[bubba44]

if u got the money u can still get the old pits look up tom garner kennels his dogs are line bred and in bred i am training a pup off his stuff and his bite is super hard was told he was gonna be dog agressive but i took care of that cant wait till hes 2 so he can start catchin the big boys

[Scott]

if u got the money u can still get the old pits look up tom garner kennels his dogs are line bred and in bred i am training a pup off his stuff and his bite is super hard was told he was gonna be dog agressive but i took care of that cant wait till hes 2 so he can start catchin the big boys

Just curious as to why you're waiting until he's 2...

[Dogojones]

If somene really wanted to learn the history of the APBT they would take a look at the site below and learn from the dogmen who started it all. History of the pit with photos.
http://rayfox6.tripod.com/id12.html

[blakebh]

If your interested in a fastlane, working bloodline of the APBT then check out Evolution Kennels out of Houston I think! He has some real nice game bred APBT that are mostly line bred off of GRCH Machobuck. I sure like the build of these dogs!


Gr.Ch. Evolution Kennels Machobuck ROM

[Reuben]

That Machobuck is an athlete...about how much do these dogs weigh when mature?