No Clue!

[djhogdogger]

 Last month we invited someone we knew to make a hunt with us. He invited a few people that we didn't know to tag along.  ....anyhow, they were just there to observe because they had never seen hogdogging before. We caught two hogs that night and they were all super excited about the whole thing. A week later we bumped into one of the guys that tagged along on the hunt and he told us that the other guy with him that night was so excited that he had already ordered some bmc pups and was looking into buying a garmin tracking system.

  I sure hope that he realizes that 1. Observing one hunt doesn't teach you everything that you need to know.
                                              2. Buying puppies doesn't mean that they will turn out.
                                              3. Aquireing land to hunt on isn't an easy task.
                                              4. Spending a lot of money on a tracking system without dogs is like putting the cart before the horse.


I hope it all turns out well for this guy but i can't help thinking that he is in for a big disappointment.

[Mike]

This happens to a bunch of 'em... I guess it's like drugs, one taste and they're hooked!

[bayhard]

maybe he will be like one man i know he let me hunt his place for sumtime then he said one day hey im getting sum dogs for u to train for me and u can keep hunting here and we will be partners needless to say i dont hunt there anymore

[djhogdogger]

maybe he will be like one man i know he let me hunt his place for sumtime then he said one day hey im getting sum dogs for u to train for me and u can keep hunting here and we will be partners needless to say i dont hunt there anymore

The worst part of this is that we don't even know this guy personally. He is someone who came with someone who the guy that we invited knew. So we wont be doing any dog training for this guy.

[dub]

I could not find anyone to show me anything. I got a place to hint first. Then I got three hog dogs and a hog. Two dogs worked. Got ripped a few more times. Then I found someone to show me last. I never found an order list. Maybe you could get the guys number and help. I still don't know much. The person that has offered the most help to me rubs people on here the wrong way. But I can call and be hunting within a day or two. I guess I just don't sit around and wait. Either show me how to do it or get out of my way. I am not bad mouthing anyone I am just wishing more people would help each other.

[djhogdogger]

I could not find anyone to show me anything. I got a place to hint first. Then I got three hog dogs and a hog. Two dogs worked. Got ripped a few more times. Then I found someone to show me last. I never found an order list. Maybe you could get the guys number and help. I still don't know much. The person that has offered the most help to me rubs people on here the wrong way. But I can call and be hunting within a day or two. I guess I just don't sit around and wait. Either show me how to do it or get out of my way. I am not bad mouthing anyone I am just wishing more people would help each other.

We have helped a whole bunch of people in this sport and are helping a few friends now. I just hate that this guy is spending a large amount of money before he really knows anything about the sport. We had to get ourselves started the hard way also and I hate to see anyone else go through the challenges that we faced. Im not trying to knock him for getting into it, but since Ive been there done that, I know the hurdles that he will have to overcome.

[bayhard]

i would of help the man dub but there is no way in h3ll im going to be a partner to someone that knows jack sh*t about hog dogs and him thank he is going to take one of my 6 year old dogs and go do what he wonts no way

[dub]

I am only talking about giving advice before they do something stupid. I wasted money and time. I blame my own dad for that. He knew hog doggers and that I wanted to go. But did not even pick up his phone. I learned how to kick a hog and to jump over them all on my own. But a few words would have helped.

[grittydog]

Wish them the best, but Reality will kick in the first time they get a bind and need help.

[jwdeltx]

I have noticed that there are a lot of new comers to our sport ,the problem  I’m worried about is people paying land owners to hunt. I don’t know about yaw but with all my other expenses I can’t afford to pay to help exterminate animals that are doing damage to there crops and land. Some of the land owners think the hogs will stay only on there land and don’t want you to hunt them so they can sell hunts. Hope no one else is experiencing this!!   

[tnhillbilly]

Shoot, I cant even find a lease around here, most everything is leased by deer hunters. They want the hogs gone, cause they are tearing up food plots and eating all their corn, but the mere mention of dogs is a definite NO!

[Case]

I guess I can be bulked into the "newcomer" bunch. I have to agree, it has been very difficult to overcome some of the mentioned hurdles. I understand where the newcomers are coming from, it is very addicting, but for the same reasons that its addicting to the veteran hogdoggers. For me, its about being in the woods away from the real world, adrenaline of grabbing holt of a wild beast, meeting some of the best damn folks out there, and the stories. I've been invited on hunts with a few guys from this forum and I dont know if I've just got lucky or what, but everyone I've met were great people. People I'd trust around my family, and folks I wouldnt mind being friends with. People I wouldnt mind helping out, cuz you just know they'd do it for you. And you dont find that in any other sport, hobby, or activity.

I say best of luck to him, but your right, its not easy. Maybe you as a person made such an impact of "good people" that he wants to have common interest, and the catching hogs is just a bonus.
Just my insight of being a "newcomer" and loving hogdoggin. 

[Hog_Hunter_57]

Well i think that if new commers want to come on well then lets go but i did that once and the new commer went behind my back and tried to get on my place that did not go over well. I think you have to work at it not just go buy some dogs and poof you have a team. But if some one gives you advice listion helping new people is great but just because they go buy all the dogs and all the stuff does not make them a hog hunter it means they can buy stuff. You can't buy time in the woods.

[sdillard]

Just show them the right way to do what they want to learn to do. Its a great hobby i cant blame anyone for wanting to do it

[goose]

i love taking new people hunting but that is one of the very reasons im very cautious about who i take...for instance a good friend of mine has been in just about every type of dog hunting there is whichever is popular at the time now this dude knows how to handle  dogs and has had a pack of hogdogs before his father in law helped me get into the sport along time ago but thats it he doesnt know a thing about genetics or breeding or proper training ive offered to take him and his two boys hunting a few times and even offered to give him a pup off a litter next thing i know he tells me on our way to work that he is putting him a pack together and i hated to be rude but i was upfront with him that i didnt mind him taggin along on hunts but that me and my hunting buddys had enough dogs of our own to train and hunt....again i offer him a pup later and when i have a litter i keep all of them until i pick out wich ones i want which thier usually around 6 months the ones who dont make our culled and the rest our GIVEN to my close hunting buddies he preceeds to tell me that he is coming to get his pup at 6 weeks old that he has been in the dog business along time and knows that people only give away culls at that age and that he is getting a gyp well this particular litter there was only one gyp and she is staying here needless to say i tell him he can find him a pup elsewhere...again being a good person i tell him when season opens up in the wma by our house he can go with us now you have to hunt this by boat and now he was telling me how he was riding with me this that and the other totally dependent on somebody else...i gues you can tell by now he wont be doing any hunting with me in the near future...just an example of the ppl we have to deal with and he isnt the only one i have to deal with people like him all the time

[firemedic]

There's one thing for sure about all this.....we aren't born knowing all about hog dogging. At some time or another, we all were as green as goose crap about hunting. BUT......the one thing that will make you get invited on hunts and later on maybe be given a pup or a dog.......is your ATTITUDE.....can't overstate that one little attribute. If yours is a good one, then life will be much easier for you....then again, be arrogant (as this guy was with goose) and see how far you get. If you don't know squat....then shut up and listen.....a lot. Be HUMBLE.....you are a guest.....a guest....act like one. Nothing wrong with being excited....I still get tore up after doing this for over 30 years, just don't overstep your boundaries, if you don't know what they are....ask. I love to see younger folks getting into this sport and will help them out if at all possible. But if you act like you know it all, then by all means let me get out of your way.....waaaaay out of your way. You are so right dj.....that guy doesn't have a clue!

[ez-hogs]

Some people just get excited  and yes adrenaline is a strong thing lol but i can say i was lucky to have hooked up with some old friends that i hunted with and flipped many hogs and ran many miles  before i even got my first dog and he was a pup and new nothing i used to sit in the middle of the wheat everyday watching hogs and teaching my one dog at the time what a hog was i would show him a hog out there took some time and he final had that light go off in his head and gradually started hunting it was great during all this i had been dragging a hog hide for him then got another bmc and started hunting them togather both pups barley knowing anything just kept hunting and it felt like forever and finally got one hog not to big but big enough to work my pups from then on nothing but trash breaking and catching hogs i dont think u ever learn everything learn something new about dogs hogs breeds hunting styles endless info im saying it takes yrs of experience not something i would just jump into hunt with sum 1

[jwdeltx]

I love to take young people with me when we hunt ,and even will take catch dogs when they will leg the hog. It’s a great thrill to watch there enthusiasm and I am not greedy there plenty of hogs out there . I’m worried about hogs being turned into game animals and the population soaring to the point they get out of hand.There are a lot of people that don’t understand the impact hogs have on the farming industry. This is proven by the number of hunters turning hogs a loose . I have no opinion on releasing boar hogs or barr hogs, they still cause damage but don’t reproduce . There are still land owners out there that won’t  let you hunt hogs on there land and think that the hogs are not leaving there property to damage crops other places.I hope we can keep hog classified as nuisance animals ,if not the farming industry is in trouble!!!