I shot a dog at my deer feeder............

[cantexduck]

Dub, you missed the point. A landowner or its agent can protect exotic livestock. If the neighbors dog gets on our ranch and goes after the axis .......... hog is the same thing.

[dub]

If the axis jumps a fence does it belong to your neighbor?

[Circle C]

My understanding is that an unmarked axis belongs to the landowner(whose land it is currently on), just like any other exotic animal, including hogs.

[catchrcall]

yes sir, if my axis jumps the fence on to your land, it is now your axis until it comes back.  unfortunately, that means just like a landowner could shoot a dog for baying an axis, he can shoot one for baying a hog since they are now classified the same. 

[catchrcall]

that site is horrible about dogs.  I've got a running list at home of the guys i see on there that talk about dog shooting all the time.  I can't wait until one of them calls me to track a deer so i can tell him I don't track for dog shooters.

[UNDERDOG]

I don't agree with shooting dogs for messing up a hunt, nor do I agree with hog doggers running in deer season bitching when their dogs get shot... both side need to show some respect to fellow hunters

I like this quote...........

[dub]

I will be in contact with my State Rep for other stuff. I will ask him to have is office look into it.

[djhogdogger]

 I have never shot a dog for treaspassing on our property. I see dogs cross our pasture all of the time. But I have shot dogs for chasing my horses, coming on our property and growling, and also dogs that come up to our house and are starving and covered in mange because its the humane thing to do. While Ive never had a dog chase a deer while i was deer hunting. If it ever happend, I think that I would try to catch the dog and file a law suit against the owner of the dog for any expenses that I feel the dog caused, including the cost of my deer lease because while accidents happen, the dog owner in my oppinion is being negligent. I don't ever want someone to shoot one of my dogs, but they are MY REPSONSIBILITY and it is my job as a dog owner to make sure that they never get in a situation to be shot.

[got2catchem]

This topic is touchy and I can see both sides. IMO If a deer hunter shoots your dog; do what you got to do as the deer hunter has already did what they felt they needed to do. Both sides need to think about the implications and consequences of their actions and be prepared to deal with them. No point in talking / typing about it.

[cward]

If a dog bay's a hog under my deer stand I am going to get down and catch the hog!LOL

[Dirtydog]

This topic is touchy and I can see both sides. IMO If a deer hunter shoots your dog; do what you got to do as the deer hunter has already did what they felt they needed to do. Both sides need to think about the implications and consequences of their actions and be prepared to deal with them. No point in talking / typing about it.

amen!

[charles]

 yaw have all touched on leases and private land. what about public land? i agree with not running dogs during daylight hrs for the respect of deer hunters during the season, but i dont have a wart on my butt the drips gold and cant afford to pay 2k+ for a lease to shoot the legal limit of deer when some public land offers the same quality of deer unless the landowner is power feeding the deer. since the state says feral hogs are an exotic and belong to the owner of land where the hog is residing, then what about corp land? in the law then the hogs would belong to the federal government since COE is federal, but lets say corp land belongs to the state, does the state now own the hogs? why is it we look at dogs as less human, when they feel pain, ecitement, sadness, depression and most feelings we as humans feel, they just speak a different language just like people from other countries? a person who shoots a man/woman's dogs should be held to smae standards as shooting a human b/c of the time and money the owner has in the dog, its the same with kids. how much do we spend on our children? my dogs are my kids since my son doesnt live with me, but i still support my son in more than just child support. we spend to much money on both kids and dogs to have some trigger happy/pissed hunter to shoot them out of dispite or b/c he/she didnt identify his target before releasing the bullet. 

[Silverton Boar Dogs]

Chris's replies are correct. Feral hogs are exotic livestock and they do belong to whoever owns the land they are standing on, provided they are not tagged or branded. A land owner may shoot a dog that is attacking, has attacked or is about to attack exotic livestock. I would assume that a dog bayed on a hog would meet the "attack' threshold. A caught hog would definitely meat the threshold.

A land owner or leasehold may not shoot a dog for trespass or running or disturbing deer, but they will. We as dog hunters have got to protect our dogs by not putting them into a situation where they can be put in harms way. Its very bad PR for hog doggers to have dogs running through land that we do not have permission to hunt.

This is one of the main reasons we lost the dog hunting in SHNF (hog dogs being run in the forest during deer season). Also deer dogs have just been banned from Kisatchie National Forest (Louisiana), one of the main reasons for the desision was because of deer dogs running on to private property and negatively impacting the use of the Forrest by other users. We as dog hunters have got to make sure that we keep our dogs on the property we have permission to hunt.

Thanks,
Paul T

[cantexduck]

Charles, we don't want dogs to have rights. That is the top of a slippery slope.

[jwdeltx]

Here is another scenario and is really the way it goes. My friend calls me and tells me to load my dogs; there are hogs in his hay field. So we get there, turn dogs out, hit a hog that runs four fences south onto another property. Now does that hog belong to that land owner or the one where we started the hog??? Same scenario with one of his cows, which can and does happen, does the cow now belong to the other guy???  If your cow gets out and causes property damage you are liable!!!!!!
 Land owners need to look at the avantages of having us hog hunters !!!!!!

[Silverton Boar Dogs]

Each time a feral hog crosses a property line it changes ownership. A branded/ tagged cow never changes ownership, a cow is livestock and different laws apply.

Here is another scenario and is really the way it goes. My friend calls me and tells me to load my dogs; there are hogs in his hay field. So we get there, turn dogs out, hit a hog that runs four fences south onto another property. Now does that hog belong to that land owner or the one where we started the hog??? Same scenario with one of his cows, which can and does happen, does the cow now belong to the other guy???  If your cow gets out and causes property damage you are liable!!!!!!

[charles]

 Im not saying dogs should have rights, but we spend a lot time and money on them, the crime for killing/shooting 1's dog should hold the same as shooting humans. Go shoot or assult a police dog, you will be arrested for assulting/ killing a police officer. Its the smae thing as our dogs. police dogs aint no better than our dogs.

[uglydog]

Sam Houston National Forrest DO NOT ALLOW ANY HOG DOGS ANYMORE, as are some of the other public lands, and more are adding to the list of NO HOG DOGS AT ALL

[jwdeltx]

My point is that the hog came from the other guys property to damage his hay field ,when we put dogs on the hog it’s going to run home . I know the laws but this needs to be changed so the people with hog problems can actually do something about it. I don’t know of any one with dogs that won’t cross fences and can be called off  quick enough to prevent them from crossing in to other property. 

[slimpickins]

Just brand or eartag em all before you release them.