Silverton Boar Dogs
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« Reply #40 on: January 11, 2011, 08:38:02 am » |
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In a situation like this you need to get permission to hunt the properties that the hogs might be crossing. The landowner with the depridation problem should be able to assist you with this if he knows all the surrounding land owners. It would be prudent to get either hunting permission or retrieval rights on all properties that your dogs could end up on. My point is that the hog came from the other guys property to damage his hay field ,when we put dogs on the hog it’s going to run home . I know the laws but this needs to be changed so the people with hog problems can actually do something about it. I don’t know of any one with dogs that won’t cross fences and can be called off quick enough to prevent them from crossing in to other property.
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« Reply #41 on: January 11, 2011, 09:01:15 am » |
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its always happened and its going to keep happening if you turn your dogs loose especially during deer season in the daylight hours on a place thats small enough that you know your dog might end up crossing a fence then you are taking a chance that your dog might get shot point blank thats the way it is so if you dont wont that to happen dont turn them loose.
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« Reply #42 on: January 11, 2011, 03:04:17 pm » |
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texasbowhunter has the most dog killers of any site i have ever been on, lol I offered a $1000 reward for anybody killing any dog on our ranches and burying it. Its a shame this attitude exists, wish it go away but too many city peeps in the country hunting now days just dont get it.
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« Reply #43 on: January 11, 2011, 03:40:29 pm » |
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I'm confused I thought hunting was supposed to be an enjoyable, fun, memory making experiance..... All I ever hear from "hard-core" deer hunters is whine whine whine.... The dogs are messing my hunt up, the hogs are messing my hunt up, the hogs tore my feeder up, the land-owner drove by, the winds blowing :'( :'( :'(. I mean, every excuse in the book to why they didnt get that buck AGAIN this year. Reminds of me of the "hard-core" golfers. If you have a problem with hog doggers then take it up with them, not the dogs that are out there simply doing what we ask them to do. Seems to me like the mean kid that likes to poke sticks at innocent animals never actually grew up. How can you have so much hate that you would shoot an innocent dog for walking through your hunting area? I can understand shooting a dog for running someone's livestock, farm animals, or trying to hurt a person. But just because you were sitting in the stand and he walked by??? CMON! Just my two cents, and I couldnt imagine how I would react to one of my dogs getting shot by someone in a stand. He and I just better hope we dont have to come to that one day. I would like to add, that I would never dump out on a lease during deer season or close to where my dogs may cross a hunters path, but sometimes things just happen.
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« Reply #44 on: January 12, 2011, 12:20:12 am » |
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If a dog bay's a hog under my deer stand I am going to get down and catch the hog!LOL
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« Reply #45 on: January 12, 2011, 09:02:23 am » |
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Chris's replies are correct. Feral hogs are exotic livestock and they do belong to whoever owns the land they are standing on, provided they are not tagged or branded. A land owner may shoot a dog that is attacking, has attacked or is about to attack exotic livestock. I would assume that a dog bayed on a hog would meet the "attack' threshold. A caught hog would definitely meat the threshold.
A land owner or leasehold may not shoot a dog for trespass or running or disturbing deer, but they will. We as dog hunters have got to protect our dogs by not putting them into a situation where they can be put in harms way. Its very bad PR for hog doggers to have dogs running through land that we do not have permission to hunt.
This is one of the main reasons we lost the dog hunting in SHNF (hog dogs being run in the forest during deer season). Also deer dogs have just been banned from Kisatchie National Forest (Louisiana), one of the main reasons for the desision was because of deer dogs running on to private property and negatively impacting the use of the Forrest by other users. We as dog hunters have got to make sure that we keep our dogs on the property we have permission to hunt.
Thanks, Paul T
This is where I disagree for what they have done! Outlaws are outlaws! The same night hunting poachers that hunt deer in the SHNF Hunt them on private land also but they don't stop deer hunting in the SHNF! Look at the difference in people caught with Illegal deer and dogs crossing fence's!Way more! They need to start catching the bad rats and deal with them not punish the good ones! All they hurt is the good one's because the bad one's are running the fire out of it and I know it for a fact! I got sent 2 picture's on my phone just this week from 2 big hogs that got caught out of the forest!HMMM
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Hog hunting can start more crap than anything I have ever seen!(HDLCrystal) Remember John Wayne was just an actor the real cowboys is who he looked up to..........
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« Reply #46 on: January 12, 2011, 10:25:48 am » |
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Chris's replies are correct. Feral hogs are exotic livestock and they do belong to whoever owns the land they are standing on, provided they are not tagged or branded. A land owner may shoot a dog that is attacking, has attacked or is about to attack exotic livestock. I would assume that a dog bayed on a hog would meet the "attack' threshold. A caught hog would definitely meat the threshold.
A land owner or leasehold may not shoot a dog for trespass or running or disturbing deer, but they will. We as dog hunters have got to protect our dogs by not putting them into a situation where they can be put in harms way. Its very bad PR for hog doggers to have dogs running through land that we do not have permission to hunt.
This is one of the main reasons we lost the dog hunting in SHNF (hog dogs being run in the forest during deer season). Also deer dogs have just been banned from Kisatchie National Forest (Louisiana), one of the main reasons for the desision was because of deer dogs running on to private property and negatively impacting the use of the Forrest by other users. We as dog hunters have got to make sure that we keep our dogs on the property we have permission to hunt.
Thanks, Paul T
This is where I disagree for what they have done! Outlaws are outlaws! The same night hunting poachers that hunt deer in the SHNF Hunt them on private land also but they don't stop deer hunting in the SHNF! Look at the difference in people caught with Illegal deer and dogs crossing fence's!Way more! They need to start catching the bad rats and deal with them not punish the good ones! All they hurt is the good one's because the bad one's are running the fire out of it and I know it for a fact! I got sent 2 picture's on my phone just this week from 2 big hogs that got caught out of the forest!HMMM Your words- they are the problem. Turn the poachers in then. Become the solution.
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« Reply #47 on: January 12, 2011, 10:52:28 am » |
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What do you do if you report them! There is no proof! The picture's they can say they caught them anywhere! A warden can go talk to them and that is it do you really think they are going to say yea we were huntin there!
I know of a Buck that was reported that was shot at night in the forest and they told the gamewarden they killed him off there lease! The warden told them that he was going to keep his eye on them! These guys have been reported many times but never caught as they can get back home before they can catch them! They also run no collars on there dogs! We are alittle different here as subdivisions are all around the forrest!
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Hog hunting can start more crap than anything I have ever seen!(HDLCrystal) Remember John Wayne was just an actor the real cowboys is who he looked up to..........
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