shooting over dogs

[craig]

just curious to what type of dogs(cur, hound, cross,ect) you guys use that shoot over your dogs alot.

what cal. of gun you use ?

[arrowbar]

hounds using everything from a 22mag to 35 rem.

[craig]

do you think a hound can stand being shot over better than a cur dog ?

[Cutter Bay Kennels]

do you think a hound can stand being shot over better than a cur dog ?

To me, that completely depends on the dog, who's been working it, and how much experience that dog has had. If I give the break command, my hounds know the Bullet is on the way in.

[craig]

texashog
          before i had ever been hurt or had a surgery, i thought,( hell i did) take on any hog my dogs were big enough to bay or catch.  im still a young guy be 42 in march but like Toby Keith says " i aint as good as i once was" and that was proven to me this past weekend on a big boar with just me and my dogs, killed one bulldog and wrecked everything else and troted off, needless to say i was glad to be loose from that hog.

 so shooting over dogs is something im going to explore while hunting alone. 

[craig]

cutter
 do your hounds fall back in on the hog after the shot or do they stay back ?

[Circle C]

Craig,

   A couple years ago Des aka MR HG made some real good posts about shooting over dogs and desensitizing them to being shot around. The #1 thing I picked up was to shoot a small caliber gun during feeding time. Might be worth searching some of his old posts.

Last year I shot at a couple porcipines while hunting. Two of my dogs loaded up on the mule and they were done hunting. I mean DONE!

Fast forward to this year, I had a couple dogs staked out at Jesse Paul's place ( one of them was the same dog from last year), we were sighting in a 22 hornet before a hunt. The dogs did not seem to concerned.  The next day, we had a small boar hog bayed in a cedar pile. He walked up and shot the hog with a 30/30 and it didn't phase the dogs, they just piled on the hog.   Hopefully this weekend we'll get to see how they handle being shot over again.

[sfboarbuster]

Every dog i've owned would catch after I shot, whether it was a deer or a hog!

[craig]

Chris
 i shure like getting my hands on a hog, but if i dont have the right kinda help with me i think ill try shooting.  kinda perfect timing cause im out of bulldogs. LoL

i just gotta get some dogs gun broke,  i might have to start with a cap gun

[Bryant]

Craig,

I bayed and shot for many years prior to owning a catchdog, and quite frankly I miss it sometimes.  I think there are things that can be learned using this method that people don't see when hunting with catchdogs.  Here's an example, and frankly one of my BIGGEST pet peaves when hunting especially with new guys....people hear a bark and it's a dang all out race through the woods.  I'm not so sure that often times bays are not broken by a herd of hunters crashing through the woods. When I bayed and shot, I took my time....slow and easy...checking the wind direction to approach the bay from down wind...working myself into a position for a good, clean shot.  The dogs I had were all curs, and the initial shot placement was critical because the minute that gun went off they were caught!

I enjoyed shooting, and killed just as many hogs just as dead as any other method.  I started using a catchdog for two main reasons...one reason was we started selling a few hogs and the other reason was so I could hunt at night.

[Cutter Bay Kennels]

cutter
 do your hounds fall back in on the hog after the shot or do they stay back ?

When they hear it, that is the same as a dog catching.  They are on it, and I mean quick.  They generally get back about 10' when I say break.  I have never shot a rifle at a bayed hog.  I prefer my pistol.  I shoot a 40 cal, and I tend to aim for the back of the ear. 

[craig]

Bryant
  i have been on those foot race's  i know what you are saying for shure, not to mention i dont have any air left in me when i get there 

 did it seem like the hogs were more prone to break if they caught site of you ?

[dub]

Craig,

   A couple years ago Des aka MR HG made some real good posts about shooting over dogs and desensitizing them to being shot around. The #1 thing I picked up was to shoot a small caliber gun during feeding time. Might be worth searching some of his old posts.

Last year I shot at a couple porcipines while hunting. Two of my dogs loaded up on the mule and they were done hunting. I mean DONE!

Fast forward to this year, I had a couple dogs staked out at Jesse Paul's place ( one of them was the same dog from last year), we were sighting in a 22 hornet before a hunt. The dogs did not seem to concerned.  The next day, we had a small boar hog bayed in a cedar pile. He walked up and shot the hog with a 30/30 and it didn't phase the dogs, they just piled on the hog.   Hopefully this weekend we'll get to see how they handle being shot over again.

I have only shot over bird dogs. But even they should be eased in. I have seen idiots work on a dog but never expose the dog to shooting. The first shot is a 12GA just over their head and they think they got a bad dog. Bird dogs I start with a 22 about 50 yards away and then feed them. I change distance and then move to larger guns. But do most work with a 22 because it is cheaper. But they should also hear the gun you hunt with many time before hunting. Doing right before feeding is easy and throw some extra petting in. You get the idea.

[RockinW]

dang Craig, hate to hear it. which dog did you lose this time?

[LionandBoarHunter]

Craig i start shooting around my dogs when they are pups usually start out with a 22 walking around with them in the pasture shooting if i get one that is nervous or scared of it i put them on a about a 20 ft rope and lead them and shoot and pull them to me and pet them afterwards and they usually get over it in a day or two. All my dogs will catch after i shoot but the hog hits the dirt after they are shot i use a 41 mag or 30-30 when i am hunting i never pay attention to the wind when you got 5 or 6 dogs baying the hell out of one he is not worried about what you are doin i just ease in there and watch a good bay and bust that ass when he gives me a good shot i hav seen it with just one or two dogs its a liittle harder to sneak in and get a shot

[craig]

22 shorts is what i was thinking of starting with..

i have a set of young dogs 1 yr old , so timing is right to start training on them.

i grew up shooting out squirrels and coons to dogs and there reward was the coon or squirrel hitting the ground .

im shure it will work the some with a hog,  but i just imagine 90% of the hogs will just be caught with the curs.

[craig]

dang Craig, hate to hear it. which dog did you lose this time?

Brownie a young bulldog.
JR got cut bad but just because he was trying to help me, he wont catch nothing till i do 
Ice got cut pretty good too.

[TexasHogDogs]

My dogs hear gun shots from the time they are pups.   We will be out shooting at some tin cans are shooting a few doves if it is the season even shooting some rattle snakes out in the feilds .  Just start out shooting what gun you are going to prefer and away from the dogs from a good distance then just ease your way in as the days weeks and months go by .   I shoot a 12 ga with slugs when am hog hunting its deadly on any kind of boar hog .  I have used them all from 22 mag - 30/30 to 45/70.  You hit that sucker right with a 1oz peice of lead and he is going down also To me a pistol is a waste of time but am not a pistol man like to carry one if tieing hogs just in case the hog gets out of control can pop him fast .  The dogs will get use to the gun.  My dogs will bay great up tight when they see me coming in they tend to back off a little so I can shoot its like they know what is fixin to happen.  I will get in as close as I can for the shot dont like to take any kind of longer shots than I have to cause with all the action going on and the drelin pumping I have seen some mighty good shots MISS!  Just take your time and sneak in .  To all the pistol people noting against pistols I just never been very good with one .

[craig]

Craig i start shooting around my dogs when they are pups usually start out with a 22 walking around with them in the pasture shooting if i get one that is nervous or scared of it i put them on a about a 20 ft rope and lead them and shoot and pull them to me and pet them afterwards and they usually get over it in a day or two. All my dogs will catch after i shoot but the hog hits the dirt after they are shot i use a 41 mag or 30-30 when i am hunting i never pay attention to the wind when you got 5 or 6 dogs baying the hell out of one he is not worried about what you are doin i just ease in there and watch a good bay and bust that ass when he gives me a good shot i hav seen it with just one or two dogs its a liittle harder to sneak in and get a shot

i know i have had big hogs break when they see me but the dogs ussually get them bayed in just a short distance.

[Bryant]

Bryant
  i have been on those foot race's  i know what you are saying for shure, not to mention i dont have any air left in me when i get there 

 did it seem like the hogs were more prone to break if they caught site of you ?

Very seldom, and I usually tried for them not to see me.  I mostly hunted with one single dog.  I will also say that when I hunted this way, I SELDOM killed a hog more than a hundred yards from where the dog struck.  Didn't own a tracking system, and never needed one.  I also had multiple hogs bayed together more often than now.