Controversy

[uglydog]

Controversy


Well I see some people got all upset, sorry not everybody is going to be happy all the time. Yall should have a job where you have to read and deal with each and everyone of the mickey mouse problems, complaints, and whiners, from this forum, like the moderators or even worse the admin. Getting messages all throughout the day and night, in the middle of hunting because somebody on ETHD, got under somebody else’s skin, ran off at the mouth or can't follow the rules. There are hundreds and hundreds of people on this message forum daily that  do not cause not the first issue, and are very much a pleasure to have on the forum. However some of the participants are the ones constant stirring the pot, meaning you are in some way trying to get a reaction out of another member.  Then there are the ones that take it a step further, and act like they do not have a clue why they are being picked on, "Everybody is always ganging up on them" These are the worst kind for a moderator, So much of the time is spent trying to sort out who is wrong and who is the problem, private messages flowing back and fourth. The moderators here have a great benefits package and good salary, but that overtime stuff needs to be eliminated.
Then there are folks that get on here and want to start complaining about how this ship is run, accuse the Admin, of flexing its muscle,  because “We guys are a Clique". So I want to address that also.
First off, if ETHD was a ship, then Mike is the Captain, the rest of us is  the crew, and we are just as likely to walk that plank as you passengers are to be thrown overboard. The "Crew" has to put up with "whining and belly aching" of all the rest, however we all work together pretty dern well, to keep this ship sailing. We are still individuals that hunt and have lives and families and JUST LIKE YOU, we have our own personal opinions, We are allowed to participate in conversations and just like you to voice our opinion,  however because we are the crew we get accused of being in a clique, or taking advantage of our "POWER". 
So next time a subject gets several pages long and ETHD Moderators and administrators have an "opinion" and then later have to step in and let everyone know this post has went as far as it can go without getting nasty,
Maybe you will remember that "we" also might want to state our opinion in the matter without being judged by the members here any different than other members.

Then there are those that just find it easier to complain, and fuss about how things are being run around here, thinking if enough people will get behind them on the matter it will get things changed to run better, SNAP! this is a private website, meaning it ain't a democracy, The Squeaking Wheel around here gets a PM, an opportunity to change behaviors, then removed, not oiled. The truth is the people keeping this site running smooth would much rather be having fun that dealing with controversy here.
I know the large majority, come here, enjoy themselves and never have any problems. I too enjoy myself here most of the time, this is a great bunch of people in general, have met and made a lot of friends because of this site.
The other people that have had issues the past couple days, not addressing anyone in particular because their are several. Those are the ones that need to take the hints, some of you got PMs, and still don't get it,  but take the hints when its time to let something go, leave it and move on. You keep dragging it up, pleading your case, it gets VERY OLD.
Trying to get the last word in? wanting to convince the masses that you are right? Where do you really think this will end? Well I can tell you it will be for the benefit of the ETHD website, is how it will end. That can be accomplished where everybody takes a deep breath and gets their mind right, or either the problem can be removed from this site all together. The Moderators and Administrators work to keep this a good clean, enjoyable, site,  and of course they all stand behind each others decisions, thats what makes this whole place work.

You don't have to like me an as individual, you don't have to agree with me, you can hate my guts and  if you say it in a respectful manner, there is not a problem. You are welcome to debate and disagree if done with a respectful tone. When you loose your cool and can't take heat of a conversation, walk off and come back later its not all that hard, there are many multi page controversial subjects, that stayed in the parameters of the rules & respect that did not require the whole page to be deleted only the not so wise comments.

To All  New people here, Welcome, please read the rules so you don't start off early on this forum getting a warning or having your posts deleted. Some people come on here just to use the classifieds to sell dogs and don't read the rules, and then start bad mouthing when their posts are removed because it lacked proper information,  just takes up wasted space on this site.

One last thing, the ones that want to call me out to talk "Man to Man"  to me, well my name is Krystal Rohan,
But if you don't know me, and don't like me, then YOU can call me, "Mrs. Rohan" , This Statement is for those that had some gender issues.

Now the following is MY OWN PERSONAL VIEW, NOT NECCESSARILY THAT OF ALL MODERATORS OR ADMIN., however they are welcome to use it anytime.

For those that want to complain about this Forum, Here are three simple suggestions
Suggestion #1
There is are alot of Message Forums where some that complain on here might feel more comfortable, and for those that self admittingly have been banned and allowed to return should be the very first to seek acceptance elswhere, rather then continue to stir the pot.

Suggestion #2
Those that don't like the posts being made, there are many other threads with alot of "Happy Thoughts" to read so you don't get your panties in a wad, if that does not work for you, see suggestion #1

Suggestion #3
Keep stirring the pot and complaining, making the admin. work overtime, keep doing what you are doing and we will issue you a passport to anywhere but here.

[matt_aggie04]

I like this 

..."this is a private website, meaning it ain't a democracy, The Squeaking Wheel around here gets a PM, an opportunity to change behaviors, then removed, not oiled"

[LionandBoarHunter]

yes mam

[Cull Buck]

Honestly, post like this don't help.  They cause more input from the peanut gallery when the gallery doesn't have a say.  I'm included in that group.  There's no way a thread like this last more than 3 pages before it causes more bitching and moaning and has to be nuked.

You are absolutely right about this not being a democracy, if someone for any reason doesn't belong here it shouldn't even have to be discussed.  They try to log in but can't and their IP address has been banned.....no need for an explanation or the reason behind the banning.  The board moves on and the banned are quickly forgotten.  Pretty simple.  Its kinda like taking out the trash.

Just my opinion.  I think the moderators and admin do a great job and I'm not telling anyone how to handle their business.  I just like to Keep It Simple.  

[TinyTexasCowgirl]

I feel like I should applaud and then click my heels while I salute, bit since there isn't a smiley for either I will just say

Well said Mrs. Rohan. Well said.

[dub]

Add a rule; No sniveling allowed at all.

[uglydog]

Cull Buck, See I almost hate to say this but I agree with you, Thats the problem - it should be that way.
However "some" (the minority) don't get the message. They "No Saavy", it gets old for the mods and admin to have to keep taking care of it. Most don't understand how much stuff gets to "clogging" up if the "help" around here did not stay on top of it. I try to stay away from talking to these folks for obvious reasons, I get to be the messenger for those that did not get it the first three attempts when you have the rational and polite Moderators and Administrators that work on this stuff day in and day out.

 

[cole newsom]

clapping... thats awesome.. tell em how it is.. its a lovers quirrel between 2 grown men.. lol causing all kinds of drama on a hoghuntin website. send em to face book or something..

[grunterhunter8]

How about just deleting the threads that are controversial and don't add value the the forum?? Seems pretty simple. Moderators have the power to nip it in the butt but are partially to blame for allowing the threads to go on....

edit: In no way am I complaining about how this forum is run...I know its time consuming having to police the threads.

[Circle C]

How about just deleting the threads that are controversial and don't add value the the forum?? Seems pretty simple. Moderators have the power to nip it in the butt but are partially to blame for allowing the threads to go on....

grunterhunter8,

 And it does seem pretty simple... But, if I deleted every thread I thought didn't "add value" to the forum, there would be a lot more bitching going on, maybe not in public, but certainly in private.  What the average member does not see, is that almost every post/thread I remove, I end up having to deal with a series of PM's from the person who's thread I removed, and occasionally their buddies who are also bent out of shape.

You do have a point about some threads being allowed to linger for too long...

   

[Reuben]

I feel like I should applaud and then click my heels while I salute, bit since there isn't a smiley for either I will just say

Well said Mrs. Rohan. Well said.

x2....It couldn't of been said any better..................

[M Bennet]

nicely said cause some times it seems like high school,to much he said she said ,drama

[grunterhunter8]

How about just deleting the threads that are controversial and don't add value the the forum?? Seems pretty simple. Moderators have the power to nip it in the butt but are partially to blame for allowing the threads to go on....

grunterhunter8,

 And it does seem pretty simple... But, if I deleted every thread I thought didn't "add value" to the forum, there would be a lot more bitching going on, maybe not in public, but certainly in private.  What the average member does not see, is that almost every post/thread I remove, I end up having to deal with a series of PM's from the person who's thread I removed, and occasionally their buddies who are also bent out of shape.

You do have a point about some threads being allowed to linger for too long...

   

With all do respect, you don't have to answer them. I have already seen moderators say if  you don't like the place...leave. Just ignore the bitching and soon or later it will stop and if they want to post on here they will learn to behave, or will just leave....and that's one less trouble maker.

[Circle C]

How about just deleting the threads that are controversial and don't add value the the forum?? Seems pretty simple. Moderators have the power to nip it in the butt but are partially to blame for allowing the threads to go on....

grunterhunter8,

 And it does seem pretty simple... But, if I deleted every thread I thought didn't "add value" to the forum, there would be a lot more bitching going on, maybe not in public, but certainly in private.  What the average member does not see, is that almost every post/thread I remove, I end up having to deal with a series of PM's from the person who's thread I removed, and occasionally their buddies who are also bent out of shape.

You do have a point about some threads being allowed to linger for too long...

   

With all do respect, you don't have to answer them. I have already seen moderators say if  you don't like the place...leave. Just ignore the bitching and soon or later it will stop and if they want to post on here they will learn to behave, or will just leave....and that's one less trouble maker.

You've got a point.   I try to be respectful and respond to people when they PM me. Just because someone might have made a post that was out of line, does not make them a bad person, or someone not deserving of being treated fairly. However, some are real a-holes about it... kinda like the one the other night that resulted in being banned.   Maybe I'll just take your advice and see how it pans out...

[DangerZone]

[djhogdogger]

Hahahahaha.....thats funny! A few years ago we used to hold ropings at our house and I ran them and I was the announcer and book keeper, so I was also the complaint department. Nothing worse than the sound of a grown man bellyaching. I used to say that i have never seen such whinny men as team ropers even though every one of them were our friends. So to all you Mods, I know exactly how you feel!

[Mike]

Excellant post Krystal!!!

[BarrNinja]

Correct me if Im wrong but it seems to me that the drama is always centered around the same "few" people just about every freaking time!   Just an observation.  

Good post Krystal!  

[Cutter Bay Kennels]

Correct me if Im wrong but it seems to me that the drama is always centered around the same "few" people just about every freaking time!   Just an observation.  

Thanks a lot Alan. I guess I should say goodbye now. I've enjoyed my stay.

[slimpickins]

I spend 8 hours a day dealing with drama at work but it's with children.
It's a shame to come on here and see the same behavior from "adults".
Mods/Admin, keep after it, you're doing a fine job.