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« Reply #40 on: January 25, 2011, 06:46:43 am » |
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The only way to get good dogs for certain is to BREED THEM YOURSELF.
I know it’s easier to buy started dogs and adults and what not BUT it is too much aggravation--- not all folks are DOG PEOPLE some are hunters who use dogs but have no understanding of dogs and proper dog husbandry (not dising hunters at all here folks, just stating a fact based on careful observation).
The say may snd cliché but its true ---“one man’s trash is another man’s treasure”---
I personally know of TWO dogs that hunted incredibly well for their owner and would flat out refuse to hunt for anyone else, they wouldn’t even leave the truck ---WHY??? I have no clue--- they got returned and continue to hunt for its first owner ---explain that one to me---
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« Reply #41 on: January 25, 2011, 07:08:08 am » |
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The only way to get good dogs for certain is to BREED THEM YOURSELF.
I know it’s easier to buy started dogs and adults and what not BUT it is too much aggravation--- not all folks are DOG PEOPLE some are hunters who use dogs but have no understanding of dogs and proper dog husbandry (not dising hunters at all here folks, just stating a fact based on careful observation).
The say may snd cliché but its true ---“one man’s trash is another man’s treasure”---
I personally know of TWO dogs that hunted incredibly well for their owner and would flat out refuse to hunt for anyone else, they wouldn’t even leave the truck ---WHY??? I have no clue--- they got returned and continue to hunt for its first owner ---explain that one to me---
I have said it for years... breed your own and you will be happier for it if you choose the pups correctly. Also some dogs only hunt for there master and a new owner won't be the master for a long while with some dogs. These dogs I am talking about can be as good as the best that ever hit the woods... A lot of Mtn Curs are this way. |
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
A hunting dog is born not made...
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« Reply #42 on: January 25, 2011, 12:03:22 pm » |
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Buying a dog on trial is no better than buying it without. Nor is having a contract written. It is all a gamble. Go hunt with the dog first or suffer the consequences!!!  Yea but what if you buy a dog from one of thoes big time yella dog breeders they will always shoot you straight.......LOL |
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« Reply #43 on: January 25, 2011, 10:37:35 pm » |
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Hog HUnter 57 you are incorrect about that. I bought a couple of pups off a Hall of Fame breeder with a written contract saying if not working by a year bring them back to get another pup or money back. Well almost 2 yrs later and lawyer fees I finally got 2/3 of my money back. May be a Hall of Fame breeder but sure as hell is not Hall of Fame with his word!!! This is just my own personal opinion and a particular situation that happened to me.
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« Reply #44 on: January 26, 2011, 07:27:40 am » |
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I agree... The only way to get good dogs for certain is to BREED THEM YOURSELF.
I know it’s easier to buy started dogs and adults and what not BUT it is too much aggravation--- not all folks are DOG PEOPLE some are hunters who use dogs but have no understanding of dogs and proper dog husbandry (not dising hunters at all here folks, just stating a fact based on careful observation).
The say may snd cliché but its true ---“one man’s trash is another man’s treasure”---
I personally know of TWO dogs that hunted incredibly well for their owner and would flat out refuse to hunt for anyone else, they wouldn’t even leave the truck ---WHY??? I have no clue--- they got returned and continue to hunt for its first owner ---explain that one to me---
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« Reply #45 on: January 26, 2011, 12:17:03 pm » |
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Hog HUnter 57 you are incorrect about that. I bought a couple of pups off a Hall of Fame breeder with a written contract saying if not working by a year bring them back to get another pup or money back. Well almost 2 yrs later and lawyer fees I finally got 2/3 of my money back. May be a Hall of Fame breeder but sure as hell is not Hall of Fame with his word!!! This is just my own personal opinion and a particular situation that happened to me.
Dang i was going to go buy some from that guy that has his son sell his dogs as papered dogs but then does not honor the papers to reg the dogs for like $800. Dang I guess thoes high dollar yella dogs don't live up to the hipe and i guess a contract is only good if you feed the right feed and let them chase butterflyes.........>LOL |
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« Reply #46 on: January 26, 2011, 12:47:40 pm » |
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The only way to get good dogs for certain is to BREED THEM YOURSELF.
I know it’s easier to buy started dogs and adults and what not BUT it is too much aggravation--- not all folks are DOG PEOPLE some are hunters who use dogs but have no understanding of dogs and proper dog husbandry (not dising hunters at all here folks, just stating a fact based on careful observation).
The say may snd cliché but its true ---“one man’s trash is another man’s treasure”---
I personally know of TWO dogs that hunted incredibly well for their owner and would flat out refuse to hunt for anyone else, they wouldn’t even leave the truck ---WHY??? I have no clue--- they got returned and continue to hunt for its first owner ---explain that one to me---
Oly, I agree, we have hog hunters and we have dogmen/women that hunt hogs with dogs. These dogmen and dogwomen like hog hunting but the real love is breeding the right dog and taking pleasure in breeding better hunting dogs. One breeders idea of what a good hunting dog is is another breeders cull.... If hunting traits were colors like if the left ear were green it was a medium range dog that won't quit a trac or if it were purple it meant the dog was long range with no quit and if that ear was striped pink and blue it wouldn't hunt. If the right ear was gold colored it was a very rough dog or the right ear was orange the dog was loose baying but wouldn't let the hog break bay because it would do all it could to stop it.. IF ALL HUNTING TRAITS WERE VISUAL EVERYONE WOULD HAVE GOOD HUNTING DOGS... :)Because the culls would have been removed from the gene pool long long ago. |
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
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« Reply #47 on: January 26, 2011, 03:30:49 pm » |
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i like that way of thinkin Reuben.save a lot food time and heartache
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