HOGS GONE WILD on tonight!!!

[uglydog]

How much do you think that boar weighed, the one the great Dane was holding?

[T-Bob Parker]

if riddick is as bigg as i think he is then id guess the boar at around 265

[RockinW]

i read the comments on the DSC website last night just after the show was aired, but havent since. has anyone here posted a comment there?  maybe some insightful, well thought out, uninflammatory comments would help educate the general public a little?

[BarrNinja]

How much do you think that boar weighed, the one the great Dane was holding?

I figure that hog was coming in around 300. Regardless of what he actually weighed, he was a load for one dog of any size dont you think?

[T-Bob Parker]

yeah for all the crap thats been talked about him, he did man-handle that ol chubby boar!

[Heaven Sent Kennel]

I like how everytime They get a hog spot lighted and have ol' super riddick "hunting" it down josh informs us that he is on a hog...lol you can obviously see that is headed in the direction of a hog just get a kick out of that. Of course then again it could be bad editing

[Bump]

How much do you think that boar weighed, the one the great Dane was holding?

I rewound it and looked at it compared to the dog and josh. I thought about 225 lb. Buddy thought 250 lb. He was a big hag.
I realize at lot of the editing may not be on the exact hog caught or released on. The Florida guys have to to ne the worse though. It looked like when the hog was caught....his back legs were tied. Instead of fighting....he sat down with those curs on his front legs.

[tnhillbilly]

I agree Alan.  The problem I see when reading the  DC blog is that even  fellow hunters (not hog hunters) are asking why use a dog when you can just shoot the hogs.  And actually I understand where they are coming from, especially when the premise of the show is eradicating a problem, not a hunting style. What the show has done is make it look like the dogs are used in place of a gun.  Spotlighting and finding the hog while the dogs ride along in a truck or UTV, then sending the dog to "catch" it is making the sport look bad. And nothing against L3!  The other crew did the same thing on last nights episode. We all know that the dogs are used for finding the hogs and then stopping them, but that is not what is being portrayed.  The people on the blog are likening it to dog fighting, which we all know is not the case.  

One out is not looking so, "more humane" now, is it?

I agree, the hunting and dog associations are going to be working OVERTIME on trying to fight and watch for all kinds of new and shady legislation and laws that are fixin to be filed.

I dont think this should have ever been put out there like that. JMO

[uglydog]

It was a big hog, cause that Dane is HUGE in person. Just when the two guys loaded it in the back of the Mule it did not fill up the bed so well.

[TColt]

It was a big pig for sure, riddick is more than 3 feet tall at the withers and that pig looked a little taller than him. There is alot of editing in the show, some that makes me laugh and some thats not so good. One thing I think is funny is when they have the "the dog barks one time to let us know he found a pig"... that riddick dog dont bark at nothin, so all those barks are added in to the show. The other thing that sucks is I know some they caught alot more than one pig, no matter how Josh is huntin the part that sucks is that Discoveries editing is not showing doggin as a very effective way of hunting, they should be showing all the pigs caught at the end of the show, and a really good bonus would be for them to show some needy family getting enough free meat to feed them for a month. The other thing they should do inmo is show more of the hunt, gag the guy that is doin the commentary and put some more hunting footage in.

As for taking an AR out there and mowing down hogs, I know several cattle ranches that wont let someone on their property with a hpr. Everyone on here knows that you could have taken out a couple hogs in that group with a gun but after a big burst of round every hog in the county would be layed up, and that the most effective way of gettin rid of hogs is with dogs, cuz once they are layed up you aint gonna find them unless you got some dogs. I wish that the editors of discovery would show that a little more. With better editing this show could have turned out alot better.

[Circle C]

I am going to ask this question on this thread, because I know some of Josh's friends are on here posting and maybe they can do a better job answering my question...

What is the difference in a Great Dane and an American Boarhound?   I remember when Josh got Riddick, and he was a Great Dane, now looking on his website, he is a registered American Boarhound...I don't get it. What's the difference, or is it a different name for the same breed???

http://www.l3outdoors.com/our_dogs.cfm

Riddick... Riddick is a four year old registered Boarhound. Riddick has proven to be one of our best Boarhound to this date and is a great family pet. Riddick stands 36'' at the withers and weighs in at 125 pounds. A great dog around the house and always calm and quiet until it's time to work.

[Cutter Bay Kennels]

Chris,

I talked with one of his buddies last night for about 45 minutes.  I asked the same thing.  Basically, Josh wanted to bring attention that the Danes were originally boar hounds from his research.  Obviously, it draws attention to him as a hog hunter.  It would be like me saying I hunt blueticks, or just calling them "Over rated dogs".  Same thing, just phrased differently.  

I was also told that Josh receives a lot of ribbing from his buddies on the "American Boarhound" name.  They all come up with special names for their dogs just to pick at him.

[Cajunjag]

As stated by me in other post, as well as last week - absolutely HORRIBLE! This second episode is even worse for team L3 and I hope they save some grace and have the DC pull them from any further episodes. I mean, they drive their dog to the hog, and have to re-hab him with water so he doesn't croke on TV. The dog is big, but he is useless in my humble opinion. If I have to drive him, hold the spotlight, then "hope and pray" he doesn't have a heart attack, I just as soon ride around on my farm all night with a spotlight, rifle, and drink beer.

I understand they have to make it "entertaining" for TV, but they could have done the right thing for their sport and either turned down the Discovery Channel or insisted it air honestly. I think the young men in Florida are better for the sport than L3, because that crew makes us look bad. Maybe they need more "bling" in her outfit or reflective striping on their cute little shirts!

 

[Circle C]

I wonder if a "grade" Great Dane, can become a "registered" Boar Hound?

On a side note...   We have found in the Aussies, that the working lines can become severely watered down in a matter of a few generations. Fortunately in the Aussie circles, there are still enough ranchers using the dogs, that there is still a gene pool of working dogs to tap.   I wonder what a hundred years, or even 50 years of pet breeding has done to the Great Dane with regards to the working lines? Or if there have been any people that have preserved the working lines of the Great Danes?

[Cutter Bay Kennels]

I wonder if a "grade" Great Dane, can become a "registered" Boar Hound?

On a side note...   We have found in the Aussies, that the working lines can become severely watered down in a matter of a few generations. Fortunately in the Aussie circles, there are still enough ranchers using the dogs, that there is still a gene pool of working dogs to tap.   I wonder what a hundred years, or even 50 years of pet breeding has done to the Great Dane with regards to the working lines? Or if there have been any people that have preserved the working lines of the Great Danes?

I guess my response is "who cares".  I can't begin to imagine feeding that monster.  Those dogs are better suited for the comics section in the Sunday paper. JMO

[Cajunjag]

Amen to that! A co-worker here has one and it was in my office yesterday. I was showing him how to use my e-collar he needs to borrow. The dog is 7 mos, weighs 117#, and lives inside. His wife is 4'7" and weighs 94#. The dog won't lead, so now they are looking at me to help "fix" him.

[TColt]

I think that the pet breeding has pretty much shot 99.9% of great danes in america to number 2 as far as making them working dogs. Would take some time and some good culling to get a good working line going again.

I think Boarhound is just what danes were called before people started breeding them as pets. I have just called anything that will run down a hog and catch it a boar hound but here is a definition.http://www.thefreedictionary.com/boarhound

[aladatrot]

They must not be too watered down if they got riddick from craigslist or thrifty nickel (I believe it was one of those). He was said to be the first dane they tried and he is apparently the hog dog. If L3 is the only one out there trying to resurrect the dane as a working breed, then I will assume that riddick is pet bred like all the other American bred danes. To have the first dog you try work out, then I would say the pet market hasn't watered them down too bad. That said, I have a friend who has all her brood stock brought in from Australia. She will not buy an American dane to save her life because she swears the quality is not there. Nothing against L3, but the first dog he had to use on hogs, capstick, was proclaimed to be one for the history books. Now the first dane he has tried is equally billed as phenomenal. It would appear he has no culls.

Cheers
M

[TColt]

I think he has culled out a few unfortunately. I have pics of a few of the danes he has tried, and so far he has only found two. He just doesnt talk much about the dogs that dont work...why would he? Does anyone else tell the world about their "favorite culls"?

[aladatrot]

Tcolt, perhaps I should have left out about the culls, but the first hog dog he tried was great, as was his first dane. I wish I had such luck with ones I tried. Seems like I try ten to get one that I really like. I said I wasn't knocking him, just pointing out what APPEARED to be fact. It is good for him if he has only had a few culls. I don't mind talking about the ones which don't work out myself, but then again I am not hunting or breeding to make a living. I do it for sport because I love it and I spend a lot more money than I make.

Cheers
M