swampdonkey_70
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« on: February 25, 2011, 11:02:02 am » |
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Hey guys / gals. I am new to this site and I'm very excited about what it has to offer. I have been hunting hogs for many years and yesterday I was browsing the "dogs for sale" section. I noticed there were several "finished" dogs for sale in there for around a thousand bucks! I have NEVER heard of finished dog for sale anywhere near that price. Most finished dogs I have been around money couldn't touch. I was wondering what the def of a finished dog is here. I am not trying to start a war on words...just trying to figure out the meaning of the term.
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« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2011, 11:23:04 am » |
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You may want to PM the guys selling the dogs and than talk to someone who has hunted behind them. people sell dogs for all type of reasons. IMO a finished dog is one that can come to yard and fit in with your pack no dog /human aggression. When you drop the tailgate he should be able to do as seller said.
I don't think I would ever sell a finish dog those things are hard to come by JMO
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DangerZone
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« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2011, 11:23:25 am » |
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(((I'm not speaking for the whole group))),,But the last "finished" dog I spent good money for.. was a waste of money,time, and food and I culled him instead of passing him on to someone else. So in that case "FINISH" ment the seller was [finished] with him, but that was just my expirence with a few finished dog I paid for,,, JUST MY 2 CENT...
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JLH
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« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2011, 11:51:00 am » |
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(((I'm not speaking for the whole group))),,But the last "finished" dog I spent good money for.. was a waste of money,time, and food and I culled him instead of passing him on to someone else. So in that case "FINISH" ment the seller was [finished] with him, but that was just my expirence with a few finished dog I paid for,,, JUST MY 2 CENT...
\ very well said alot of dog selling very little culling if dog isnt good enough for my pack why sell him to someone else. Sell a dog because have to many or need the money or to help offset cost but to dog jockey is what to many people do and dont care about what they sell. I try my best to make sure everyone is happy or they can bring back to me even if sold as a pup |
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Backwoods
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« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2011, 11:58:47 am » |
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I will have to agree with DAGERZONE, IMO, a dog is not truely finished until he is around 4 yrs old. I have seen 2 year old dogs make puppy mistakes, and 1000.00 want touch a finished dog.
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« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2011, 12:16:20 pm » |
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Jmo but I don't think there is such a thing as a finished bay/find dog they like humans are always on the learning curve honstly I see it nothing more than a sells gimic.
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swampdonkey_70
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« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2011, 01:07:01 pm » |
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Thanks guys! I was wondering about the whole finished concept and must agree with everything you guys have said. I have an 11 mo old 1/2 bird dog 1/2 Cur that no amount of money can touch and she is far from finished. I am new to this or any hog dog forum and I am very leary of buying a dog from anyone other than my hunting buddies. We pay a lot for good dogs but at least we know what we are getting. That being said my son is 16 and ready for his own dogs. I let him hunt mine for the time being but it would be much better for him to have his own. You guys seem to think like me on "finished dogs" so if you know of any reputable guys that may want to decrease the number of GOOD dogs they have....please let me know. I live in East Texas in Nacogdoches and know there has to be some around. None of us have anything we want to sell and all the pups are still too young.
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Backwoods
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« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2011, 01:26:33 pm » |
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I can see where one would see that , because a dog does not or should not stop learning the tricks of the prey he is after. however I believe some dogs do reach a level to where they have gone as far as they can mentaly weather that be the dogs fault or mine due to poor training. but you are exactly right about some people using the word finished as a sales gimic, but then there are people in the world of houndsmen that when they say a dog is finished I know the dog is solid. but just like kid's , at the right place at the wrong time, a dog will make me look like a fool, and some times i laugh and some times i get to learn a thing or two. which here latly happens a lot... JMO
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« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2011, 01:29:09 pm » |
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I did not look to see who was selling a finished dog so I am not necessarily talking about anyone. In my experience when I got a finished do I would have been better giving my money to a man on the side of the road. At least then I would not have vet bills and a higher feed bill. I do know I have heard of someone that does sell a good dog. But I do not remember the name and I have not seen any of his dogs. I only want free or cheap puppies. That way I can know how they work early. But if a dog does not work for me I ain't selling it. If a dog does work for me I ain't selling it. Now that does not apply to Dogos. But even those I would not sell to the general public and you will never see them on the dog trade section. Now I do know someone that has good dogs that sold some. They were described as "the dog will hunt." I run when I see "finished." But I do not know the dogs in question and am in no way talking bad or good about them. Just my two cents.
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« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2011, 01:36:51 pm » |
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I did not look to see who was selling a finished dog so I am not necessarily talking about anyone. In my experience when I got a finished do I would have been better giving my money to a man on the side of the road. At least then I would not have vet bills and a higher feed bill. I do know I have heard of someone that does sell a good dog. But I do not remember the name and I have not seen any of his dogs. I only want free or cheap puppies. That way I can know how they work early. But if a dog does not work for me I ain't selling it. If a dog does work for me I ain't selling it. Now that does not apply to Dogos. But even those I would not sell to the general public and you will never see them on the dog trade section. Now I do know someone that has good dogs that sold some. They were described as "the dog will hunt." I run when I see "finished." But I do not know the dogs in question and am in no way talking bad or good about them. Just my two cents.
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swampdonkey_70
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« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2011, 01:49:27 pm » |
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Just wanted everyone to know that I am not calling anybody out about the finished dog for a thousand bucks comment. I was just very curious about what people consider finished and why one would be so cheap. I pay double that for good dogs around here that are far from finished. Thats why I was asking...I am looking for good dogs to buy my son so I thought I would give the dogs for sell a try. There isn't a dog I feed that I will take a grand for.
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DangerZone
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« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2011, 02:10:13 pm » |
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 DOGO's eat and poop just like the rest of them!!  The piles are just bigger!!
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« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2011, 02:11:30 pm » |
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Backwoods in my mind if a dog is at the point they can't learn anything ele they are nothing more than a help or a me too dog. Not saying they can't find hogs on their own and I know what u mean I have had one for a while but she just never paned out for me
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« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2011, 03:04:04 pm » |
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What makes selling a Dogo different than any other dog? Theyre like unicorns. I thought you knew that. |
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Bo Pugh
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« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2011, 03:08:43 pm » |
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im not talking about anyones dogs either but what i have learnt from buying a dog off the computer, i always thought finished was suppose to be "trained", good,ready to hunt and does what the seller says, but i have been badly mistaken, finished apparently means that thier finished hunting this dog cause it is not working out for them, lol, i have done alot of thinking on this, and come up with this, if it was such a good dog it would have never made it to the internet to sell, someone from that town would have been done bought that dog if it was " finished"
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Reuben
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« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2011, 03:22:31 pm » |
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I don't buy finished dogs because most finished dogs I bought years ago were culls. Now I buy a good well bred female pup or two and then breed the best one to a high powered male out of the same line. It takes a little longer but then you get what you want... and what I like is to evaluate the whole litter and select from that after testing the pups.
I have never been dissapointed doing it this way.
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« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2011, 03:28:35 pm » |
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I've seen plenty of dogs in the woods that people were hunting. They referred to them as finished. I agree with them, I was finished hunting around them.
As for the question, I have seen some good dogs get sold because the owners were getting out. The dog was still legitimate, just found a new owner. "High" price is very open. Someone that hunts free dogs, would say $2000 is a lot for a dog. Someone that spends $600-800 on an 8 week old pup, would beg to differ. Different strokes for different folks. Find what you like and hunt it hard.
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« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2011, 03:32:38 pm » |
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To me a finished dog is one that goes out and gets it done consistantly. Not a dog that finds one here and there or a me too dog. I know my "finished" dog knows what hes looking for and burns up the woods til he finds it or gets in the truck with a "hey stupid there aint nothin here" look on his face. But a thousand bucks wont get him out of my kennels. And the gyp I had 3500 didnt get her either.
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Reuben
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« Reply #18 on: February 25, 2011, 03:42:11 pm » |
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To me a finished dog is one that goes out and gets it done consistantly. Not a dog that finds one here and there or a me too dog. I know my "finished" dog knows what hes looking for and burns up the woods til he finds it or gets in the truck with a "hey stupid there aint nothin here" look on his face. But a thousand bucks wont get him out of my kennels. And the gyp I had 3500 didnt get her either.
x2 I would rather buy a young dog with a ton of potential than a so called decent finished dog. A star hunting dog is born not made.  |
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
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« Reply #19 on: February 25, 2011, 04:21:25 pm » |
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Dont take this wrong fellas but people do sell FINISHED dogs sometimes bc they get in a bind or others just like to raise and work pups, rather than have a good dog sit on the chain they sell it. Ive never sold or tried to sell a dog on here so no one can say it must be this guy salein the $1000 finished dog but i know they do get sold. And i do agree that $1000 for a finished dog is very cheap but it happens.
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