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« on: March 14, 2011, 03:38:55 pm » |
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Its evident that people are too soft hearted. I recently experienced someones lack of responsibility when they gave a dog away to someone they knew because they were culling it for aggression and knew the dogs potential but clearly didnt give enough of a damn to cull it themselves. Here is where it hurts the most my main catchdog is out for weeks now because of this dog attacking her while on a hunt. If you have a dog that aint on the up and up dont put people (children) and other dogs in jeopardy by simply giving to someone who is new to the sport and desperate to put a team together. Take some responsibility for the greater good!
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Huntin the Grunt Til the Squeal is Real...Here Piggy, Piggy, Piggy.
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DangerZone
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« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2011, 03:56:57 pm » |
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it's never easy, but it's a must be done when needed...
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From squeal to meal with one good stick! Hunting is not a sport, It's a way of life...Danny Ward
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BIG CHRIS
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« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2011, 03:58:38 pm » |
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x3 and thats enough said
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Dogs hit the ground noses down! That's how we roll...
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BIG BEN
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« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2011, 05:12:58 pm » |
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X4- Aggression of any type should not be put up with or passed along in any circumstance.
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hunt em hard, give em no excuses, and cull harder!!!!! "Rather have a sister in a whore house than spots on a dog" "Pretty is as pretty does"- BigO
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Reuben
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« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2011, 06:31:52 pm » |
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to put it bluntly... you have to be pretty sorry if you knowingly sell a cull.
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog... A hunting dog is born not made...
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ChaseG
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« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2011, 06:53:16 pm » |
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to put it bluntly... you have to be pretty sorry if you knowingly sell a cull.
I'm with Reuben. I got burned a bunch starting out and it sucks.
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YELLOWBLACKMASK
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« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2011, 09:41:54 pm » |
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Outstanding post bro. I concur 100% its about time somebody throws it out there to be chewed on seriously. Ill bet your gonna get some good posts from the ol timers on this lil subject.
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« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2011, 09:45:36 pm » |
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Nice post. I completely agree.
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Hog Dog Mike
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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2011, 09:56:29 pm » |
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A guy I hunt with some gave me a dog a few years ago. It was like a giant yella BMC and must have weighed 100 pounds. When I got him he was skinny and I got him fed up and wormed.
I don't know how to describe it but I didn't like the look in his eye. Always heard that the eye is the window to the soul. This dog was not agressive at all to a hog and did not find his own hog that much.
The first thing you know he got to snapping at people if they got close to his kennel. I thought he might just be protective. One morning I was going to reach in the kennel and give him a pat and he nearly got my hand. It would have been easy to loose some fingers on that deal.
I just walked into the house and got my squirrel rifle and took care of the problem. When he knew the jig was up he looked at me from his dog house and growled when I walked up to the kennel.
A guy I hunt with now has got a dog that started fighting this year. In fact his son got bit by this dog trying to break up a fight about a month ago. He could be a great dog except for the fighting.
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« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2011, 10:47:19 pm » |
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Well I am brand new and really hate the fact that this happens, i have got a couple new dogs in the last couple weeks,and so far so good!!! Im with Rueben on this one,,,pretty sorry to pass culls off on others.
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tnhillbilly
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« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2011, 01:01:23 am » |
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X 2 with reuben, VERY SORRY!!!! to trade an aggresive dog!! I had some kind of red bone male dog, was a jam up hog dog, not ill toward dogs and my son would play with him all the time, but went to feed one day and my son with me, the dog wheeled around and snapped at my son, had a little training session and 1st and ONLY warning, the second time he tried it, was his last!! I also had a dog i didnt like for some reason or other that my buddy wanted, so we done some trading that dog ended up downing a couple young dogs of mine. So the moral of the story is, trading off or pawning off culls will eventually come back and bight you in the butt. what goes around comes around, sooner or later. So now, culls don't leave my yard, PERIOD.
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« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2011, 03:27:28 am » |
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I had to cull a couple Saturday morning. Not for aggression but definitly had some bad habbits that couldn't be fixed. I'll work with a dog for a while but if I find out it's nothing but a feed bill and a danger to the breeding of well bred dogs... Audios! I will say, I may seem soft sometimes just because I've seen some real good dogs culled because of people that knew nothing about training a dog. There's a lot of culling in this world that need to be done... and not just dogs.
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Some people call it damage... I call it hog sign.
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« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2011, 09:34:41 pm » |
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Man yall are speakin the truth me and a buddy just got started...been burned once a piece, now you dont wanna trust anybody
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« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2011, 11:28:55 pm » |
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i've been burned once or twice... i find it hard to believe that a person would sell a dog who portrays a bad image on themselves.... i am the same way with horses... if it is a bad bronc then i will cull it simply for the fact that i dont want my name related to him or a horse that will hurt someone... plain and simple i would much rather cull a dog then sell a bad dog and have my name come up as some one who is related to fighting dogs or dogs who are not what they should be
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« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2011, 01:28:47 am » |
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If alot more people would cull dogs instead of pass them off then their would be alot better dogs out their I where I come from if you want to eat you better work same goes for the dogs
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« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2011, 01:30:18 am » |
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That's one reason I've never bought a puppy. I'm all for well bred dogs but when you start out paying way too much for a pup and he needs to be culled, a lot of people would rather sell it than take the loss.
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Some people call it damage... I call it hog sign.
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tnhillbilly
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« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2011, 02:42:15 am » |
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That's one reason I've never bought a puppy. I'm all for well bred dogs but when you start out paying way too much for a pup and he needs to be culled, a lot of people would rather sell it than take the loss.
There you go! cant argue that. I agree 100%. For the love of money, is the root of all evil: GOD
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« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2011, 09:50:34 am » |
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If alot more people would cull dogs instead of pass them off then their would be alot better dogs out their I where I come from if you want to eat you better work same goes for the dogs
X2 That is the main problem these days is that the "Art" is not practiced anymore. The old timers had the best dogs because they did two main things, Culled inadaquate stock religiously and hunted for a living. We all can't do both these days but one for sure. If you pass an inadaquate dog off to another knowingly, I believe strongly enough to say you should be ashamed of yourself to still lay claim to the sport. Take the loss if you have to and chalk it up to being in the working dog buisness. You will be respected and respect yourself in the end. If you can't bring yourself to practice the art, well ok "GIVE" it away as a "YARD DOG".
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« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2011, 11:15:40 am » |
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For the guys and gals that have hunted behind my dogs and like them, I'll let them in on a big secret. I got a pretty big bone pile! On another note: sometimes a dog doesn't hunt the way I like and can go and make someone else a good one. Aggression of any kind is not tolerated on my yard or while I'm hunting!!!! It also has to be understood that dogs put each other in place, but had better not get out of hand.
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« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2011, 12:12:24 pm » |
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good posts here guys! i too have been dooped a time or two in the begining. i chalk it up to being somewhat nieve at the time. i got into this sport on my own and really had no clue what i was getting into when i started. its now been 10 years since i was given my first hog dog and ill say this........out of all the dogs i have owned, the ones that were given to me turned out to be dogs that i would have never sold....ever...and then there are the ones that i paid good money for that shoulda been culled long before i got them. it seems the art of culling has ceased to exsist. guys will sell off anything for a quick buck. i have never sold a single dog. the ones that i bought that didnt work out arent around. there arent many hog doggers in my area and the last thing i would want is to get a rep for pawning off number 2ty dogs to unsuspecting newbies. i would much rather have a rep for having great dogs that people want but cant get. kinda like ''man i wish he would sell me one or two of those dogs '' , instead of '' that guy is a dog trader with a yard full of culls''.
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