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« on: March 28, 2011, 09:53:38 am »

Me and my hunting partner have been waiting on our goodman hound cat cross female to come in heat to breed her to his finnished rhodesian ridge back. Well she took him the other day and hopefully we will have pups around late may. The pups will be 1/2 rhodesian,3/8 goodman, 1/8 catahoula. The male is gritty will catch if he can handle him alone but will back up and bay if needed. Will catch with catch dog everytime. Has been on over 200 hogs and that is guessing low. The female is a well started dog. She has been on about 20 hogs. She will get right in a hogs face and bay, if he breaks she will hit him and make him face her. Both dogs are completely silent until they have him stopped. There r a few guys on here that have hunted with these dogs and a couple guys from texas that have hunted with the rhodesian. Well just seein who might be interested in a pup when they are born.
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« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2011, 10:02:47 am »

I might be by the time they are ready to go the two I have now I will know if they are going to work or not
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« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2011, 01:21:54 pm »

I have hunted with the old red ridgeback dog and can vouch that he is one hell of a hood dog from what I got to see of him. The dog has tons of handle and a good nose on him. Pups sound like they should be pretty good and I'd definitely be interested in a male pup if y'all wanna head down here and make a hunt with us when they're weaning age.
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« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2011, 10:12:47 pm »

Yea we might have to, but remember yall still have an invitation to come up here and hunt with us.
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« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2011, 10:31:36 pm »

what is a goodman if i might ask?
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« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2011, 11:46:53 pm »

From what i have heard it is a wolf hound breed. They were bred for stamina. The sire to the female is a goodman that my uncle owns and is by far the best hog dog i have ever seen or hunted with. He could run for miles and wouldn't be panting hardly at all, thats why i got her because i knew what she was out of and was hopin she would be like him, but my uncle knows more about the breed then i do. Ill ask him more about the breed to give yall some better info on the breed.
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« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2011, 11:47:32 pm »

what is a goodman if i might ask?

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« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2011, 12:11:31 am »

Here is some info i have found on goodman hounds.

Willis Goodman, he cannot be given full credit for developing this strain of hounds, but he was the guiding influence. Mr. Goodman was born in Albemarle County, Virginia. As a young man he moved to Paris, Kentucky and took with him some of his hounds of Virginia breeding. He served in the Confederate Army and it was after the war between the States was over that he began his strain of hounds. We will begin with what is said to be the first mating that originated this strain of hounds.

Goodman had a female named Goodman's Lizzie. She was of Maupin breeding. You would probably know this particular bloodline as Walker. Her Maupin blood consisted of the imported English breeding crossed with the great Tennessee Lead. Tennessee Lead was a major contributor the the development of the foxhounds as a whole. Lizzie also carried a trace of Ben Robinson breeding. Cunningham's Ben was straight Ben Robinson breeding. Both his sire and dam came from the Irish hounds of Maryland that traced back to the original importation of Mountain and Muse by Governor Ogle in 1812. Mountain and Muse were the famous pair of hounds that were bred extensively from 1812 until their death and are considered to be the single greatest contributing breeding pair to the development of the foxhound breeds. The Robinson hounds were highly regarded all over the country and their reputation as excellent red foxhounds became mythical. About 1876 Lizzie and Ben were bred. These pups are considered to be the first litter of pups born that would later be called Goodman Hounds.

Goodman should be given credit for supplying and supervising the early outcrosses of this breed. He was able to do this effectively because of his vast knowledge of the various bloodlines. Virginia Bolivar was whelped about 1878. He was bred by Sam Yates of Virginia and given as a present to Goodman by his cousin, William Durrett of North Garden, Virginia. Goodman used Bolivar as a stud dog with good results. Goodman later sent him to New England after he was used extensively as a sire in Kentucky. Scully was purchased by Goodman and Colonel Clay from Colonel William Johnson of Nashville, Tennessee. Scully was used with great success on the females having Bolivar as a sire. Their was much debate among the foxhunters of that day on whether or not Scully was a July hound. Scully shows the Durrett and Cole hounds of Virginia up close in his pedigree. In his third and fourth generation pedigree he shows practically the same blood as does Bolivar. Scully was said by Goodman to be, "A good game hound with plenty of speed and guts which he imparted to his pups". Mollie Trevis may be considered to have been one of the foundation brood matrons. She was owned by Asa Spahr of Winchester, Kentucky. She had several crosses of Maupin's Imperial Rifle and Tennessee Lead in her bloodlines and was definitely a hound that represented Goodman's ideas of proper breeding. She is found quite frequently coming into the pedigrees from crosses on Fidler, a son of Cunningham's Ben out of Goodman's Lizzie.

Mr. Goodman made no claims that his hounds were superior to any others. He was not one to brag on hounds of any breeding. Most of the foxhunters of that day believed that speed was the thing to breed for. Goodman was of the opinion that speed alone was not the important thing. He tried to breed for courage, endurance, speed, a good nose and fox sense. He wanted hounds with good feet and plenty of bone. A necessary factor if they were to pass his test of being able and willing to run five consecutive days and give a good race each day. He believed that no other hunters, with the exception of the Walker brothers, put their hounds through such a severe test as did he and his hunting companions.
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« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2011, 08:47:33 am »

My granddad was a fox hunter and I remember him speaking of Goodman hounds.
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« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2011, 01:53:01 pm »

I am new to the forum and am looking for a few dogs. I am interested for sure. Will the pups be located in Oklahoma?
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« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2011, 01:55:04 pm »

well the pics spold me if u do have any pups put me down for a female.  aught to be a good cross for my half ridgebacks that i have if they all prove good enough to be breedable
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« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2011, 02:19:26 pm »

Yes kerdog they will be in oklahoma i live in anadarko.
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« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2011, 12:01:11 am »

How do you think these dogs would work on coyotes?  How much do you want for a pup?
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« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2011, 09:50:50 am »

I dont coyote hunt so i dont know. But a few people are askin me for a price and i would say probably 75 a pup or so.
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« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2011, 05:46:35 pm »

My dad has a pair of hounds that are already runnin coyotes. Male and female the male is about 15 months old and the female is 3. They will both get gone huntin. He wants 400 for the pair.
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