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BIG CHRIS
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« on: April 06, 2011, 09:31:37 am » |
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i had to take a week to get over my anger! any way me and my buddies hunted last weekend and got on a big nasty hog. we were running a pack of young dogs and struck a big rank boar i would guess, any how all the young dogs are rough and gritty as can be and im sure got rough with hog had a good battle this being 3 dogs none over 14 months old, any how the hog blowed up and slung dogs everywhere and took off and we could`nt get it stopped! had a guy tell me that all the dogs were culls that we need to take them over the hill and grow a set and do what was right. i will be the first to say when cullen is needed i have no problems doen so. the thing is he told me all we were doen was teaching hogs to run and that ppl like us are the problem with running hogs, now this comes from a guy that runs atleast 8 dogs on the ground 3 that are RCD full pit, no cross. we where worken young dogs with out any old dogs to see were they were progressing. all dogs get out and flat hunt hard around 300 to 500 yards and willl honor each other i just cant see were there should be a cull in these pups! needless to say i almost made a quick judgement and showed some southern grace to this fella and his brother! but i just turned around and left. what do some of u older fella think on this subject.
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slimhogdog
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« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2011, 09:34:57 am » |
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I say to hell with him and let him run what he wants to feed and you run what you want to feed!!!
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blakebh
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« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2011, 09:39:18 am » |
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I say to hell with him and let him run what he wants to feed and you run what you want to feed!!!
x2 Dont let it get to ya Chris! We ran one 3 miles sat mornin and didnt get it stopped. If a big rank boar hog wants to run there is nothing any dog can do about it! JMO |
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« Last Edit: April 06, 2011, 09:41:37 am by blakebh »
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« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2011, 09:41:05 am » |
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Your dogs aint culls in my book just learning
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skunkhounds
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« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2011, 09:41:18 am » |
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well i got a jam up pack of rough dogs and they still get the hell beat out of them some times sounds like you got a pack of dogs that are just young and trying to get it lined out dont worrie about what other people think i have heard lots of bs over my rough dogs but id rather catch the hog not chase it all day and listen to a damn dog bark sounds like your doing fine
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T-Bob Parker
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« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2011, 09:52:05 am » |
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What kind of dog teaches pigs to stay put? Even with the best dogs a hogs desire is to be left alone, and since they can't climb they either run or start shredding dogs.
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« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2011, 09:57:24 am » |
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I hunt what i like and how I like and could care less what others think are say about it or my dogs. They are my dogs and if im happy with them, thats all that counts because im the one that feeds them.
Everyone has their own opinions, don't let it bother you.
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Bryant
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« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2011, 09:58:50 am » |
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So the guy was claiming that he's never lost a hog?
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Boar Collector
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« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2011, 10:02:13 am » |
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What kind of dog teaches pigs to stay put? Even with the best dogs a hogs desire is to be left alone, and since they can't climb they either run or start shredding dogs.
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"Them pigs can run.. but they'll only die tired"
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NechesBobcat
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« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2011, 10:40:04 am » |
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To each his own. I have very loose baying dogs and like it but if someone wants gritty dogs that's their right. I will say that everyone I know with gritty dogs is always talking about how they got on a running hog and I don't think I've ever had one run when I was just hunting 1 or 2 loose baying dogs. I would kinda be upset if my dogs were baying a real good hawg and someone elses dog ran in there trying the hog and got him running. I'm by no means saying a gritty dog is a cull but there is definately a difference in how a bay goes with real baying dogs and gritty/catchy dogs. You can't tell me every hog can be stopped with gritty dogs so sometimes it's good to have loose baying dogs until you can get in there with a catch dog.
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Some people call it damage... I call it hog sign.
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skunkhounds
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« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2011, 10:54:30 am » |
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well i can say i got some friends that got loose bay dog and when they get a bad hog that runs i usualy get a phone call wanting some help from my rough pack the only down fall i c to a rough pack is the vet bills if you dont know how to fix the dogs your self
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blakebh
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« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2011, 11:00:37 am » |
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I have had long races with and without the meat with both loose and rough dogs! I think it has alot to do with the hogs. I have one spot that I hardly go to cause the hogs run so bad non matter what you bring. I myself like rough dogs!
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T-Bob Parker
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« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2011, 11:03:59 am » |
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Let me modify my statement, I have seen some awesome loose dogs work a hog and keep them standing still ,as a matter of fact that's the type of pack I want. What I mean is no dog teaches a hog that standing still and getting barked at and eventually caught is a good idea, they have to MAKE the hog conform to their will. And good dogs can do it. I hope that's more clear .
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« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2011, 11:11:45 am » |
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Well when I get really mad I stop and ask myself why. Questions I ask myself: Was what they said true? Am I just being sensitive? Should I have knocked their teeth out? ...
Now I don't know if your dogs are culls or not. But I do know it ain't nobody's place to tell you to cull any dog. But tell someone to shoot their dog is the same as threatening to shot their dog in my book. A comment like that is fighting words. I know the Bible says to turn the other cheek but it takes a big man to walk away. It does not matter if your dogs are culls or not it is just right to say it it like that. Maybe they were trying to help and came across wrong or maybe they are ^$# &^$. But make a statement like that you better not get withing arms reach again.
I may not like the gritty dogs as much as a baying dog but that don't make them culls. Sounds to me like the other guy just can't catch any hogs and just could not man up to his own faults so he blamed you. So you hunt how you want and I will just try to catch the hohs I come across in my way. Live and let live. Hunt and let hunt.
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djhogdogger
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« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2011, 11:26:42 am » |
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"Live and let live. Hunt and let hunt." : Dub Awesome words right there Dub!  |
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Reuben
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« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2011, 12:03:50 pm » |
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What makes hog hunting great is the fact that sometimes we need loose baying dogs and other times rough tight baying dogs. I like gritty dogs in open country... CHRIS, The way you describe your 3 pups they are not culls... |
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
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Reuben
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« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2011, 12:26:19 pm » |
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Just got off the phone with a friend. He is leaving his lease right now with 2 150# boars that he shot over his kemmer mtn cur. The dog bayed 4 different times and we are talking about thick thick palmettos and he said the hogs broke twice because they smelled him coming or heard him. He really didn't know but he was able to sneak up on 2 different occasions and got 2.
A month ago I went with him and we struck 3 times and was able to sneak in on a 200 pound sow. This is a loose baying dog when hunted alone.
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
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« Reply #17 on: April 06, 2011, 02:39:01 pm » |
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BIG CHRIS,
To me, it seems simple: YOU own the dogs; YOU buy the dog food; YOU decide which is or is not a cull.
Sounds like you have some young dogs learning the ropes. Nobody stops or catches every hog.
Congratulations on walking away.
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NechesBobcat
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« Reply #18 on: April 06, 2011, 03:20:44 pm » |
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To best revenge is to prove someone wrong. I had people tell me my dogs weren't worth having alot when I first started but I've got people wanting to use my dogs as a stud now.
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Some people call it damage... I call it hog sign.
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BIG CHRIS
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« Reply #19 on: April 06, 2011, 03:37:20 pm » |
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well i appreciate all the comments and no im not cullen these pups and neither is my buddy, the fella that ran his mouth is a know it all prick that has the best dogs in TEXAS  ! he is one of those guys that everything he does is the right way so he thinks! im just venting but good god i would love to put my hands on that SOB but i knew at the time it would have been bad, lucky for him my wife and kids were there. |
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