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« Reply #60 on: April 13, 2011, 11:28:25 am »

Tcolt,  every breeder of anybreed is gonna have culls.  If they don't, they're most likely just breeding for the cash.

What I meant was few culls, not no culls. Sorry about the confusion. Late night when I wrote that. Majority of breeders, countin non hunting breeders, fOr pits or Dogos breed culls as far as hunting dogs go.
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« Reply #61 on: April 13, 2011, 12:06:43 pm »

The comparison to pits is because people have seen pits hunt. But they are completely different breeds.

Thanks, but I guess I didn't make it clear...It was a rhetorical question/musing.
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« Reply #62 on: April 13, 2011, 12:10:49 pm »

Where did you get yours from Tcolt?  He sounds like what I look for.
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« Reply #63 on: April 13, 2011, 12:43:54 pm »

Were can I order a 70 lbs, red Dogo like Soco? I want one!

I don't care to much for white dogs in general. They always look dirty.  Grin
Dirty!........... I think I just found the name for my next white dog.  Wink

I'm not sure where you might get one.  I have a pup from him right now and i think he is going to be about the same size.  No skin problems so far and I might just name him dirty!  Grin
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« Reply #64 on: April 13, 2011, 02:03:29 pm »

The comparison to pits is because people have seen pits hunt. But they are completely different breeds.

Thanks, but I guess I didn't make it clear...It was a rhetorical question/musing.

LMAO! Nothing manifest rhetoric and muse on this board like a Dogo thread! 
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« Reply #65 on: April 13, 2011, 09:15:10 pm »

Well thank you for all of the information on dogos.
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« Reply #66 on: April 13, 2011, 11:34:40 pm »

I hunt with the dog that is allergic to pork. He is defiantly not a cull by any means. He his a hard catching dog. That happens to be allergic to pork. Go figure a hog dog that is allergic to his job. :p
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« Reply #67 on: April 14, 2011, 06:11:35 am »

Tcolt,  every breeder of anybreed is gonna have culls.  If they don't, they're most likely just breeding for the cash.

And if they tell you they don't have any culls...run away as fast as you can. Their either liars, or their standards are too low (and that goes for dogs/breeders of any breed).

I really don't understand why always the comparison's to APBTs. But, the fact of the matter is that most don't know what a true (real) APBT is. Always get a good laugh out of those asking about "Blue nose", "gator mouth", etc.


A good breeder has a higher quality of culls...
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« Reply #68 on: April 14, 2011, 12:26:42 pm »


Chainrated... Im in college and only have my 70 lbs runt dogo with me at school in lubbock tx. Here in lubbock hogs are few and far between. Took him out after him not bein hunted in over a month. He struck and caught a good size sow. Dont know many pits that can do this.


TColt I know where 2 bulldogs are right now that will do that and have seen quiet a few more..
I was mainly just jokin around with comment about a "reverse dogo" being one that will actually catch.. Wink
I'm sure some of them will catch and hold. All of the ones I've seen ,with the exception of one that kevin owns, would regrip a lot and bite all over a hog.. It's like uglydog said " A dog that will bite a hog is not necessarily a dog that will CATCH a hog". 
I know a lot of times when someone posts a pic of a dogo catching a hog it's not just one dogo, it's 3 or 4. I just don't see the need in carrying around 3 or 4 hundred pounds of dogos, but that's just me.. Shouldn't one hundred pound dogo be plenty enough dog to catch a hog?  Just an observation..
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« Reply #69 on: April 14, 2011, 12:34:13 pm »

I know a lot of times when someone posts a pic of a dogo catching a hog it's not just one dogo, it's 3 or 4.

That's so at least one will have a hold of the hog while they're all taking turns chewing on it! Shocked Shocked Shocked

Ha ha... I couldn't let that one slip by. Grin
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« Reply #70 on: April 14, 2011, 12:46:04 pm »

Another observation.....Tcolt, according to breed standards, due to his size alone, Soco is a cull. Id feed him though. Wink

One thing I have to say about a Dogo, the folks that I know that have a good one are very pleased with them.
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« Reply #71 on: April 14, 2011, 12:51:42 pm »



I'm not sure where you might get one.  I have a pup from him right now and i think he is going to be about the same size.  No skin problems so far and I might just name him dirty!  Grin

LOL. Go for it! I really do like that name for a white dog. Hope he as good as Soco!
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« Reply #72 on: April 14, 2011, 01:10:37 pm »

The more you guys hate on dogos the more I want one.   Grin

I have hunted with a few recently, all from the same blood line, that were legit catchdogs.  No regrip, no nonsense, just straight catch.  And I can say a straight catch dogo is an impressive beast.  They handled the hogs very well, but I can see where they would be hindered in thick brush.

To each his own.  Seems like we have a post to piss on Dogos once a week. I personally do not own one, but seriously enough is enough.  There are chitty dogs in every breed.

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« Reply #73 on: April 14, 2011, 01:17:04 pm »

Adam, I don't hate dogos... most of these posts are people having a little fun, based on their experiences with the breed.

I've hunted behind some good ones over the years, but a whole lot more that weren't so good.
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« Reply #74 on: April 14, 2011, 01:23:37 pm »

Adam, I don't hate dogos... most of these posts are people having a little fun, based on their experiences with the breed.

I've hunted behind some good ones over the years, but a whole lot more that weren't so good.

Mike that wasn't directed at you.  Sorry if it came across that way. 
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« Reply #75 on: April 14, 2011, 03:30:11 pm »

The Dogo was bred to hunt in packs. But I would only run two because there are only two ears Grin I personally don't think most real hog hunters have much experience with Dogos. Mostly because of the price. Then when a hunter does get one they don't get it from someone that actually hunts. So the hunter is raising and training a new breed without any real advice. I only have a puppy right now. I am finding it difficult to find real advice from multiple sources. I like the way Dogos catch. They adapt to what the hunter wants. But you have to be smarter than the dog. Dogos are smarter than most hog hunters and that is the problem Grin (That was a joke so don't get your panties in a wad!)

But there are some people that have Dogos and hunt. I have seen some pits, curs, catahoulas and so on that I would never hunt with. I don't judge a whole breed based on a few dogs. How many Dogos have you seen. I would bet you have seen more culls from any breed than the total number of Dogos you have seen. It comes down to be simple. If you don't like Dogos then don't buy a Dogo. But tolerate people that want to hunt them. Then maybe one day you can see a good Dogo at work.

(I used the word "you" but I was not talking to anyone. This was a general statement not meant to offend anyone.)
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« Reply #76 on: April 14, 2011, 07:15:29 pm »

The Dogo was bred to hunt in packs. But I would only run two because there are only two ears Grin I personally don't think most real hog hunters have much experience with Dogos. Mostly because of the price. Then when a hunter does get one they don't get it from someone that actually hunts. So the hunter is raising and training a new breed without any real advice. I only have a puppy right now. I am finding it difficult to find real advice from multiple sources. I like the way Dogos catch. They adapt to what the hunter wants. But you have to be smarter than the dog. Dogos are smarter than most hog hunters and that is the problem Grin (That was a joke so don't get your panties in a wad!)


No offense, dub, but most of the "real hog hunters" I know on this board have hunted with and seen plenty of Dogos. I'd venture to say, a good number of them have owned at least one. My personal opinion is, from the above, you aren't giving those "real hog hunters" much credit. Personally, I've seen a few good Dogos and have absolutely nothing against those who hunt them. Matter of fact, I enjoy hunting with a good one. But, from what I've seen, taking the breed as a whole, they have a higher cull rate than other breeds. For those out there that are putting them in the woods, breeding, sorting, and culling...I applaud their efforts. The problem is, there aint that many of them. In fact, they are the extreme minority here in the States.

It is evident you like the breed and your pup, but your experience with the breed pale's in comparison to many that post on these (dogo) threads. They have formulated their opinion after seeing many, many of them in the woods (and as I said, most have owned, or still own them).

Please don't take my post as confrontational, because it is not intended as such. Good luck with your pup.
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« Reply #77 on: April 14, 2011, 07:53:37 pm »

The folks who really like the Dogo need to form a club and write a standard, a standard of the highest quality, a standard that does not compromise performance and health for all dogos. A standard that does not allow dogs to be bred if they do not pass the catch dog requirements, if the dog has any type of skin conditions, especially if it has to do with a white coat, this type of dog should never be bred. The dogo must be able to hear and must not have allergies.
These dogs must be very social towards other dogs but especially humans.

Some type of standard needs to be adopted and followed and understood... Huh?
The cream would rise to the top if this were to be done Smiley

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« Reply #78 on: April 14, 2011, 08:04:35 pm »

I was trying to not insult the people that hunt and don't like Dogos. It is Dogo breeders that don't hunt and breed culls that make the breed not as good. I have no problem with hunters. I have a problem with breeders with no integrity just trying to make money. It is crazy to pay Dogo price for a catch dog. Breeders should be trying to get a better nose and then they will be worth more.
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« Reply #79 on: April 14, 2011, 08:51:31 pm »

I was trying to not insult the people that hunt and don't like Dogos. It is Dogo breeders that don't hunt and breed culls that make the breed not as good. I have no problem with hunters. I have a problem with breeders with no integrity just trying to make money. It is crazy to pay Dogo price for a catch dog. Breeders should be trying to get a better nose and then they will be worth more.

I think part of the problem is that dogos sell for a lot of money at the present time and this is one reason why a cull would get bred... People start looking at the dollars signs.

Most breeds go south when there is a strong demand for it.
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