Silent Hound????????

[WAR EAGLE]

I hate to be the new guy asking a hound question, but here it goes.  I realize that you could not train every hound to be silent, but if you had some jam up cur dogs to train a hound pup could you train silent hounds with some limited success, or would you be lucky to train one in a lifetime?  More specifically I'm asking about black and tans or blueticks.  I have always liked a houndy looking dog and love that sound.

[uglydog]

I know you will get alot of answers, there have been similiar discussions in the past if you want to use the search engine do a search on the hounds and such you may get some good reading in anyway

This is not really an answer but a silent hound is considered a cull to those that breed and raise hounds.

[TimmsHogDogs]

it depends on what your hunting, i like a silent hound for hog hunting and we have trained our hounds with our currs so they will be silent and there are all kids of tricks on how to train them if your hunting other things like coons an open mouth isnt a bad thing

[WAR EAGLE]

uglydog I did a search but most of the conversation was focused on plotts.
Timms I would like hear some of your tricks if they are shareable.  I was asking for hog hunting not coon hunting to clear that up.
I figured I would ask all my questions now then why I got the time and money for dogs I would have a plan of what I wanted.

[goose]

i have a half english half plott hound that was naturally silent and yes he was a cull from the guy i got him from not saying he is a bad dog he hunts hard and has the nose of a hound and other than being silent he was a jam up dog for the boy....far as training goes i know a guy who used to train his hounds (which were plotts ) to run silent  with the use of e-collars he would teach them that they would get shocked if they barked onn their chain or kennels and eventually got them to whenever they were barking he could simply tone them and they hushed he eventually carried it over to hunting and them barking on track now he ddint do this over night this man put them time into his dogs and it reflected im not saying it cant be done because ive seen it with my own eyes but there comes a point where genetics take over...ther most consistent line of silent or should i say tight mouth houndsw would have tobe the michigan swamp rooster line of english i know several ppl who have had dogs off this line from completely different litters from different parts of the country that have been silent...one of those hounds is a topnotch coondog who only barks when he locates and when he trees

[TimmsHogDogs]

i have heard of using e colars to train them just depends if you like thwm or not, that is one of the easier ways but you might also make them where they dont want to track at all. I have a buddy that used a muzzle, which also works if you dont want them to be gritty. We run ours with our currs as they are growing up so they learn to be silent, so far that works you could probably look up some training tips on google but I honestly think the easiest way is to know they are from silent parents and then teach them as they grow by training them with your currs... Hope that helps

[arrowbar]

Our plotts will run silent if you train them with silent dogs and will run open if you train them with open dogs just depeneds on how they are trained, I have also scolded one pretty bad and she was super silent for a while....thank God for GPS. As for blueticks I have never had a silent one or a kennel quiet one at that, hence why we will never have another one they just bark way to much./

[kader-curs]

its in the dog if you ask me.. either hes going to be loud or not... i use a very open hound to train my cur dogs and they wont bark a lick... you either learn to hunt with a loud dog or not... i wouldn't waste time trying to break him of it if i were you..JMO

mike

[BIG CHRIS]

i had a black and tan gyp named chigger, she was a jam up dog,  and she was closed mouth till looken at a hog! i ran her with BMC and BMC/mtn cur cross! i got her as a 6 month old pup that had never seen anything other then another dog.  i also had a big waker dog that was closed mouth and was run with curs from an early age. so i cant confirm it but i have had succes with closed mouth hounds that where started with curs! i currently have a jam up plott gyp that i run with curs and bred her to a nice BMC stud of my buddies, and she is also closed mouth. MAYBE im just lucky or maybe there is something to them curs that start hounds?!

[firemedic]

its in the dog if you ask me

X2....I agree totally.....I've never tried to make a dog be silent on track, but it seems like an exercise in futility to me if the dog is open mouthed to begin with. I'm not saying it can't be done, but it sure seems like a hell of a task.

[zachW]

I have had two hounds, one was a cold nosed open dog that would have made the right person a good dog, i swapped him.  but i had a bluetick that would not open till looking at the pig, i ended up swapping her just to try something new and dang i miss that dog, wish i still had her

[sechoghunter01]

i had a buddy that tied the dog up on a fresh track and every time the do barked he shocked him. when he stoped barking he took him to the hog and let him bark. after a few times doing that he had a silent jam up hound.

[SCOTTY]

I wouldn't make the dog stop barking at a pig if it's right there. I had this english redtick coon that we started on coons but it turned out he is hellacious on pigs!

[WAR EAGLE]

I appreciate all the responses I was just trying to figure out if this was something that was worth the effort. I am still on the fence but I do like see the techniques yall are using to persuade the dog to your kind of thinking. 

[tnhillbilly]

i had a buddy that tied the dog up on a fresh track and every time the do barked he shocked him. when he stoped barking he took him to the hog and let him bark. after a few times doing that he had a silent jam up hound.

This method seems most logical to me.

[firemedic]

Wondered where you had been Tom.....hahaha. But I now know! Snuck off with your wife.....good to have you back bud.

[tnhillbilly]

Glad to be back, I was having some serious withdrawls   

[SCHitemHard]

Tom we are stickin a garmin on you if you keep goin off like this lol

and isnt a silent hound a oxymoron? kinda like a PB&J with no jelly, strawberry jelly that is

[Reuben]

its in the dog if you ask me.. either hes going to be loud or not... i use a very open hound to train my cur dogs and they wont bark a lick... you either learn to hunt with a loud dog or not... i wouldn't waste time trying to break him of it if i were you..JMO

mike

x2

I would be looking for a hard hunting coon dog that was culled because he hunted silent.