Bears and hogs with the same dogs ??

[BobbyB]

I would guess this is more for the guys that get to do both.

Do your dogs readily go from one to the other, or do you have to work/train them to make the switch? I doubt I'll ever get to hunt bear, but it is just one of those things my confused mind ponders.  

[firemedic]

In my experience they'll do both if they're so inclined. Been hunting with some boys from TN that use their hounds...mostly Plotts, as both hog and bear dogs. BUT,....very seldom do you find a dog that will do both and be great at it. Most dogs eventually gravitate to the critter that they prefer to run. It takes a hell of a pack of dogs to tree a bear in the SE where I live,....reason being that a bear that climbs a tree here is dead.....period. Most just run.....and run and it takes some real bear dogs to put it up a tree. We have for the most part given up on having dogs that will do both, we now concentrate on hog dogs and it seems that our dog are getting better all the time at being single-purpose dogs. We now have an entire pack of dogs that will make life very hard on a hog as opposed to having only one or two that will. Hope this helps you....just my thoughts on your question.

[curdawgs]

I had an oldtimer tell me that when he was a kid, he used to get off of school and get his dads yella dogs to got and hunt. He said, "We picked up a shotgun and they new we were going squirrel huntin, we got on a horse and they knew we were hog hunting or working cattle, and picked up a lantern and they were ready to go coon huntin". He said "these YBMC will do anything and thats how they all use to be that they had".

[BIG BEN]

 When I lived in California our hounds ran almost anything we put them on, Bears, Cats, Coon,and Hogs. We hunted them all on a regular basis, but the terrain for all we hunted was different and the dogs knew what we were after.

[leonidas]

I don't see it being done. Not saying a dog won't hunt either,but knowing what time it is when your ready to go. Seems far fetched with out alot of trashing....

[Imayellafella]

Usually when my dog run somethin other then hogs. We call it trashing lol  They get shock and boot treatment.   No I do have a buddy that can drop his cat on anykind of track and witin an hour you will know what kind of animal left the track   

[Reuben]

when I was a kid my dogs and I hunted anything wild that we could catch. I more or less knew what the dogs were running by how fast they were running and barking. Also knew by the tone of their bark what they had treed. We hunted most every day so knew my dogs well.

[Bo Pugh]

i live in alabama and of course we have no bear but we have some guys from tennnesse that come down and hunt with us alot and the man i hunt with sent his dogs to tennessee and they said they had a bear bayed for a long time and could never get a shot and these dogs are not gonna thrash on anything, so i guess if they have never seen a bear and you put them where a bear has been they will run it, and them dogs would get on other bear and go a long ways ,when the bear treed they would come back, but it does take a dog with alot of bottom to tree a bear, some bear will run for over 24 hrs until it decides to tree it takes dogs with alot of bottom and stamina to have a good bear season.

[goose]

man yall need to hush about those long winded races....i love them and believe you can really test a hounds heart....far as the dual purpose dogs i never owned one but have hunted with a man who has raised plotts his entire life and he uses the same dogs for coon and hog he told me the key to it is finding that one dog that has that IT factor and working the heck out of it

[geronimo]

theres a guy down in fl. i met that has bear/hog dogs and he had his pack wrecked pretty good last bear season but i know for a fact that one of those dogs is a jam up hog dog he can strike like no other and has the bottom to finish the deal. also he is the man in the bear hunting world. hes from bunnel fl. i belive. he has hog and bear hunted his whole life and i have never heard anything negative about him or his dogs

[Bigdog]

i have sum hounds i use on both hogs and bear and they do really good on both.as far as them knowing wat im after they dont.they just run one or the other there not trashy at all but there gonna run the one thay smell first.as far as using your cur dogs for both i think ur wasteing your time.i havent saw n e curs that had the heart,guts, or bottom to stay on a bear for hours and tree him.i have seen sum kemmer curs do a pretty good job but there bred a little differnt than most curs.all u cur dog guys dont get mad just my opinion.but i have seen dogs run an fight a bear for up to 8 to 10 hours and tree him and not ever tree him,just like hogs u dont bay every one u strike.

[Noah]

Know a few guys around here that use their hounds on bear and hog and do real good...  Brad McNaltin(spelling?) is the man ol' geronimo is talkin' about... fine hounds...

My experiences with bear and my cur dogs... well, my dogs will run the chit outta one(a big boar bear will make even the fastest bo-hog look like he's stuck in molasses... THEY ARE SCREAMING FAST)... but my dogs are bred to hit it or quit it... lacking the bottom of a 3 day hound, I've yet to get lucky enuff to catch one in a situation to make him tree... it bound to happen sooner or later if I keep dumpin' dogs to 'em though    

I'd like to hear of any straight up cur dog guys on here with bear experience.

I remember Michael (Txhoghunter) was gonna try his curs on bear a while back... anyone know if he ever did it?

[Bigdog]

noah thats wat i meant most curs r not bred to run for hours ,but im sure there r sum that will do it out there but few and far between.

[Noah]

Yeah, I'm still tryin' to figure out the bear thing... but from what I've seen, you damn sure need a dog with some stick!

That Brad guy down here started out with 20 some bear dogs at the beginnin' of this season and was down to 3 last I talked to him... from what I've seen, a bad bear dog makes a hell of a hog dog...

[Bigdog]

yea its just like hog dogs to rough or not enough.but a to rough of a bear dog dont last long.sent a pit catch dog in to a bear bayed on the ground that would not climb bad mistake.

[BobbyB]

I would figure some hound in the mix would be the ticket on bear. Jesse Paul has some of the most long winded dogs around and he'll tell you quick, it takes some hound to put that much bottom in 'em.

But to me if you want your dogs to run a bear, it aint trashing. And as many guys around here that mention skunk in their signatures tattles about trashin!!

[Noah]

Yeah... we had our CD break off the box chain once and had the same result...

Would like to get more into the bear huntin' in the next life... heard some good stories about it... some of the locals around here climb the tree with a stick to "knock one out" so they can run it some more....  ....  I'd call bullchit, but with these dudes it ain't no joke...

As a side note... any time I hear a man say "just like hog dogs, too rough or not enough"... the understanding of that concept means alot....

You officially have my seal of approval as a dog man!   lol   

Put some pics up of your dogs and bear, I'd like to see them!

[T-Bob Parker]

Cmon Bobby, I love my skunkdogs, they think gettin on hogs is trashin

[Noah]

Cmon Bobby, I love my skunkdogs, they think gettin on hogs is trashin

My whole front porch still smells like skunk from last wknds hunt   

[Bigdog]

noah i like the same thing n a bear dog as i do a hog dog.my ideal dog is a dog that can strike and catch his on game all by himself if it needs help get anew dog.not saying i hunt one dog but they got to b abel toget it done by themselves if they have to.i like a dog that will get rough enough to bite a hog or bear to make him stop an bay,but then he needs to back up and bay.if it trys to break grab him again and set him back up.you can have a rougher dog on a bear because if it gets to rough on him he can go up a tree.theres no place for a hog to go but run.thats why so many hogs r bad to run,i dont want to get to a bay an see 7 dogs hanging off a hog,i like to see dogs working like there bred to.berd dogs can b rough but alot of the ones i have seen that r real rough,r bad to fight under the tree which will end up getting a dog fight going and dogs killed,one reason i dont like curs on a bear.but noah as u no its hard to find a dog that does wat u want.