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« on: May 19, 2011, 09:24:43 pm »

i may have some access to a 50 acre low fence to train puppys in. There is only hogs in there no other animals there will be a charge for the service whats yalls input on this subject and what kind of payment do you think will be fair for the use of his property and animals? i know if the young dogs catch a hog and tear it up you will have to pay for the hog he sells bowhunts on this place but i told him i may have an alternative to help him pay the bills when he didnt have any hunters.Let me know any thoughts or ideas of what yall think would be fair to pay. There is actually to fenced propertys one that is 50 ac and one that is 35ac .
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« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2011, 09:30:04 pm »

Where's this place located? Might be good to work some young dogs in a place like that. Don't want to spoil em bit introduce em and five the idea of what they should be looking for.
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« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2011, 09:30:50 pm »

Man those little pens like that are a pain in the butt ran one that is about 65 acres with a number 2 load of pigs in it and man it was all the dogs could do to shut one down.  We caught a couple but man it was work and dogs could not smell them much hog sent every where
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« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2011, 09:33:11 pm »

the place is located near woodville,tx would it be better to only have like maybe 2or 3 pigs in the pens instead or 30 or 40?
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« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2011, 10:38:16 pm »

I'm using a guys land for the same thing. He's charging me .65 per pound if I tear the hog up. One big downside is that he has to many hogs. They all run to a corner and face the dogs as group. It's great work for a CD but that's about it IMO 
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« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2011, 10:42:37 pm »

I was thinking that it would be a great way to introduce pups to pigs because you know they are there and cant get away.but i think that it would be better with a few pigs vs 30 to 40 head.jmo what do you think?
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« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2011, 09:18:57 am »

It's hard to say how many hogs to use but I don't think it helps the dog use it's nose. When I pull up the dogs can see the hogs from the truck. One time I got a pup ran over by a bunch hogs  which could have ended up bad. It's great on teaching a dog the correct way to catch.
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« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2011, 10:12:20 am »

I have seen some real good strike dogs that were trained in a small wooded pen with only a few hogs in it. I think you have to be careful not to overdo it once they start to figure it out, but it does have some definite advantages.
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« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2011, 10:26:17 am »

Jason i use to hav a 40 acre wooded pen i alway kept 2 hogs in there usually big sows.I started my pups in there at 7 months old by there self  and let them work for a few hours in there to see which ones had the stay power that i like. It wasnt long you could take your pups to the woods and start catchin hogs with them i work them 3 times a week untill they were consistently catchin me hogs in the woods.
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« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2011, 10:31:54 am »

Those places may be a pain in the butt to hunt with dogs but if you can ever get your hands on a dog that has been trained and raised in a hog fence you better take it because the hogs in fences know how to work a dog and how to out run a dog but once those young dogs have mastered how to shut a hog down in a fence you have a .......(GOOD DOG)......alot of people talk about how good there dogs r and tell you they are worth this and that but if you really wanna know how much a dog is worth just take it to a hog fence and let it run some hogs in there and see how fast it can shut a hog down.
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« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2011, 11:20:07 am »

I'd pay to be able to take pups to a place like that for sure.
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« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2011, 09:38:17 pm »

There was an ole boy 5-6 yrs ago out of Rusk that had 50 acres with hogs in it. He charged $10 a dog for like a half day. I took some pups there a couple times. It was ok but he really head to many hogs in there and they run alot. If you had some gritty pups you could usually shut one down and get some good bay training in.
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« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2011, 12:14:16 am »

Jason, it all depends how many dogs you need to work and what its worth to you. I used to just ask guys to bring some corn or anything the hogs could eat when I ran my 20 acre facility. The most hogs I ever kept in mine was 7 at one time. IMO, you need more hogs at first, as your pups progress, the less hogs you need. Bottom line, its a great way to get pups started, knowing what I know, I would pay good money to use someones facility if I didnt have my own. I trained 2 sets of pups a year in my pen for 3 yrs straight with better results as far as getting young dogs finding there own hogs at a young age, compared to just starting them on live hunts. I would work mine weekly in the pen until they began finding hogs on live hunts and then I would only take them to the pen every 2 or 3 months or if we had a string of dry runs. Once again JMO, putting a young dog in a wooded pen, even if there are too many hogs and too much scent, he will learn more than he would have just sitting on the chain or in the kennel that day, or on a dry run if you dont have many good places to hunt. A few of the dogs I trained were real close range hunters, but when you got into hog sign they could smell, they would leave out and run a track until they bayed. The close range dogs I had before I built the pen would not do that. They would quit a track if they couldnt trail him up in 15 or 20 minutes. I believe it could be due to the pen trained dogs be so familiarized with the hog scent, but there is no way to really know. As long as you dont over do it, it has its advantages. I hope the guy shoots you a fair price, its can be a lot of fun watching those pups trying to figure it all out. Let us know how it turns out.    Britt   
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« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2011, 02:00:39 am »

Britt this is not just for me its could be for everyone i just wanted to see how much interest there was in it and how much money everyone thought was a fair price for the use of this mans place.
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« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2011, 12:41:24 pm »

Ive had several people contact me recently about useing my pen, but Im not in a position to mess with it right now. I think he would get a lot of business if his price is reasonable. Several people I know in that area have not had a very good year. There either isnt any hogs on the places that are usually loaded or the ones they do find run till the cows come home. Not the best scenerio for dog training. I have some good friends in Corrigan, they say there could be more hunters than hogs these days. I would gladly send anyone that contacts me in that direction if yall get it going. As for prices, I think the $10 per dog as someone else had mentioned is fair as long as enough time is aloted. If you need help speading the word, let me know. Most hunters I know in that area dont get on the computer much. Take care, Britt 
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« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2011, 12:48:44 pm »

id pay it if it was closer to me thats a good idea
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« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2011, 02:26:40 pm »

Got 11 hogs in 150 acre pen and that is plenty. Never have a problem of the dog or dogs gettig on a hog. Some will bay right up and some will run forever.
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« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2011, 09:13:45 pm »

Jason keep us updated on the pen...I got a couple buddies with pups that might be interested.....
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« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2011, 10:42:51 pm »

We live in diboll and would gladly pay $10 per dog and a bag of corn for a 1/2 a day of training.  let us know...we have 2 pups that a prime for starting in a place like that.  Message us on here or give us a call.  936 414 5148

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