Question on black mouth cur

[John S]

What 2 difference kind of dogs do they cross to get the B M C dog???

[blakebh]

A BMC and a BMC!

[John S]

What I would like to know what dogs did they use to make a bmc. Where did the bmc come from???

[UNDERDOG]

What I would like to know what dogs did they use to make a bmc. Where did the bmc come from???

East Tx......

[djhogdogger]

 
 http://www.southernheritagekennel.com/OriginOfTheBlackMouthCur/

 This one goes way back!

 http://www.blackmouthcur.com/History.htm

[DangerZone]

I think you may be miss leading your self by the slang use of the word CUR to mean a mix breed, Thats not necessarily true, just because a dog is not an AKC reg breed doesnt mean it's not a breed in its own. if all mix breed dogs are cur's then a doberman would be a doberman cur,  I see it as a CUR is a type of dog just like a hound, bull, pointer or terrier so to me the old blood line cur dog's are their own breed ,,catahoula,mountain,black mouth, ect. with their own sub types like hound's ( red or blue tick ) Yellow BMC/Red BMC/ Florida BMC and so on  ..... JMO

[leonidas]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackmouth_Cur



Blackmouth Curs have varied historical documentation dependent upon region. Among them are the Ladner Yellow Blackmouth Cur from Mississippi, Red Blackmouth Cur from Alabama, Weatherford's Ben Blackmouth Cur from Texas, and the Florida Blackmouth Cur.
 
The first Blackmouth Curs registered were Ladner Blackmouth Curs through the National Kennel Club in April 1964. Mr L.H. Ladner had such extensive written documentation of his family's breeding that the NKC recognized the breed.[8] These curs are used to tree squirrel, raccoon, bobcat, mountain lion, and bear. They are used for hunting hogs and feral cattle. They also are distinguished by being used by the search and rescue emergency services.[9]
 Red Alabama Blackmouth Cur: The Red Alabama Cur is believed to have originated in Alabama, though there are Red Blackmouth Cur in Florida and Tennessee. These cur were supposedly registered as property in the courthouses around Howardtown about 40 miles north of Mobile and nearby Tibbie in the 1940s. They were used as multipurpose pioneer dogs that would hunt, protect the home, and gather in the cattle and pigs at slaughter time. Several breeders in Alabama, Mrs Murphy among them, continue to work toward retaining and improving the Red Blackmouth Cur. Through the efforts of several Blackmouth Cur breeders, the United Kennel Club later recognized the breed, featuring Howard Carnathan's Bruno, a Red Blackmouth Cur, in their standard photograph.
 Weatherford's Ben Texas Blackmouth Cur: Weatherford's Ben comes from a line of curs well-documented in the book 'The Big Thicket Legacy'. They are used primarily for herding cattle.
 Florida Blackmouth Cur: Florida Blackmouths, used for herding cattle, are featured in old paintings hanging in local barber shops and homes, so their existence and history in Florida is documented.
 




Florida Blackmouth Cur
Blackmouth Curs now range from the east to the west coast, and as far north as Canada. The Ladner Blackmouth Curs are also known to be in Mexico, Argentina, Haiti, Russia, India, and throughout Europe.
 
The book Old Yeller is about a boy growing up in frontier Texas and adopting a dog of the title name. The eponymous Old Yeller is a typical Blackmouth Cur. In the book, Old Yeller is a short-haired, yellow bobtailed dog that hunts and trees, isn't afraid to fight a full-grown bear when it is threatened, and naturally goes for the nose when he faces a mad bull. The author is very explicit in describing this old-fashioned breed and its use to the pioneer. The name "Blackmouth Cur" is never mentioned in the book, however in those days, the breed really didn't have a name or an individual identity. Also very closely related to the Blackmouth Cur is the Mountain Cur. The Mountain Cur dogs are slowly being sorted into individual types.

What 2 difference kind of dogs do they cross to get the B M C dog???

[Explorer]

Not certain of all the blood lines in the Black Mouth, but according to the research I've done there seems to be some EM in the mix...

[bayed hard hog dogs]

I think you may be miss leading your self by the slang use of the word CUR to mean a mix breed, Thats not necessarily true, just because a dog is not an AKC reg breed doesnt mean it's not a breed in its own. if all mix breed dogs are cur's then a doberman would be a doberman cur,  I see it as a CUR is a type of dog just like a hound, bull, pointer or terrier so to me the old blood line cur dog's are their own breed ,,catahoula,mountain,black mouth, ect. with their own sub types like hound's ( red or blue tick ) Yellow BMC/Red BMC/ Florida BMC and so on  ..... JMO

   right on 

[YELLOWBLACKMASK]

Whoooo!!    What a can of worms!    This oughta be good.     Kinda like askin what color's make up camo.

But there is only one color of BMC if you got your color blind shades on!!

 

[BIG CHRIS]

i am waiting on mrs kaycee`s answer gonna be good look up kaycee on here she was raised with working  BMC her whole life!!!

[DangerZone]

Whoooo!!    What a can of worms!    This oughta be good.     Kinda like askin what color's make up camo.

But there is only one color of BMC if you got your color blind shades on!!


LMAO X2

 

[GOTBOAR]

It was expalined to me that the first cross to create the BMC began with a bullmastiff male and a black and tan gyp. It was expalined to me that thy crossed these too because of size and cold nose. It also somewhat explains the reverse colorins.

[UNDERDOG]

It was expalined to me that the first cross to create the BMC began with a bullmastiff male and a black and tan gyp. It was expalined to me that thy crossed these too because of size and cold nose. It also somewhat explains the reverse colorins.

Who explained that too you and what kind of info did they have to back that up? it just don't fit the was the dogs work stock for them to be of that cross.

[Bryant]

I don't remember the exact specifics of the text, but there was an article in the March 2009 Bayed Solid magazine called history of the Southern Black Mouth Cur (or something to that effect) which mentioned the Mastiff X Black and Tan cross.  Don't remember what facts (if any) were given to support the theory.  I'll have to go back and see if I can find the magazine.

[slckhunter1978]

I kinda wondered the same thing about the brindle cur dog? Where did they start? Everyone i have asked just tells me curr dog thats all no specific type not that it matters to me but just curious. I mean i know some mtn curr are brindle and other types come out brindle. I love the brindle dogs myself just wondering how they came abt way back when...

[John S]

It was expalined to me that the first cross to create the BMC began with a bullmastiff male and a black and tan gyp. It was expalined to me that thy crossed these too because of size and cold nose. It also somewhat explains the reverse colorins.

   I thank you got it right.  It is a man down the street that has a cross of a bullmastiff and pit bull and the dog looks just like a black mouth cur. Thanks

[UNDERDOG]

Yella with a black mask may look like a BMC but looks don't make it a BMC....alot of dogs can and will have a yella body and a black mask but they ain't BMC's..

[DangerZone]

It was expalined to me that the first cross to create the BMC began with a bullmastiff male and a black and tan gyp. It was expalined to me that thy crossed these too because of size and cold nose. It also somewhat explains the reverse colorins.

   I thank you got it right.  It is a man down the street that has a cross of a bullmastiff and pit bull and the dog looks just like a black mouth cur. Thanks

that sounds more like a bullbull or a pitstiff,,, kinda like a labradoodle

[DangerZone]

food for thought on this subject,, the doberman took almost 20-25 years to mix 4-5 different breeds to get to a standard, and on occasion you still see a doberman litter with one pup the size of a great dane, As well the labradoodle has been in the works since the 70's or longer and the mutigenerational litters have problems with losing the breed standard still and a big % of the mutigenerational dog have exagrated health concerns,,,,it just doesn't happen in one or two breedings....... A BMC is a BMC just like, a walker is a walker ,a redbone is a redbone,or a catahoula is a catahoula ...