My YBMC trailed a 16 hour old track!!! I read it on the web!!!!

[treeingratterrier]

Weatherford’s Ben made his living catching bad cattle, fact. He was a dead catch dog on hogs, and the best I ever legged a hog behind myself, many other say the same, cold nose, he could and did turn cattle and hog tracks 16 plus hours old, heavy distance winder, wide deep hunt, extremely intense working dog, if a cow ran off she wore him as fast as he got there. Heavy windmill, extreme hard fast windmill, on ranker cattle he would quarterback. Extremely impressive conformation amazing speed, cat quickness and agility, heart, drive, desire, bottom , natural ability in every way, 65 pound light fawn yellow, wide, deep chest, long body and leg, good arch in his back, tight high flank. 

I went and read up on Wrights website for yellowBlackMouthCurs and saw that it is claimed that Ben took a 16 hour old track and caught the hog!!

  I was just wondering how this could be??   If a dog could find a hog that was there 16 hours ago the did the dog take a time out for sleeping and building a campfire or how exactly could a cur dog follow, trail a hog track that is 16 hours old???  If a hog was walking at 3 miles per hour that meant the hog was 48 miles away?? If the hog was running that would make it how many miles?  Maybe they mean Ben found a hog and bayed it for 16 hours or something like that??  I just wanted to hear others view on a yellow cur that could take a cold cold 16 hour old track and catch the hog???  That means to me somebody saw a hog last nite at 2 am and marked the spot and looked at the watch and wrote down the time and called up old Ben and he got there tonight Ben ran the hog down and caught it or how does this work??  Does anybody know the story behind the 16 hour old hog track?  Willis please splain tis fur me willya pard?  Myself I have no use for a hogdog that could or would do this, the hog would be out of the county and for sure out of hearing and tracking it with a collar??  What does a 16 hour track mean to you guys???  I guess anything is possible but 16 hours for a cur sure sounds kinda windy to me???

[TT]

I thought the same Wen I read it

[Bo Pugh]

i would have caught the dog way before his 16 hours was up, i like to hunt but not that long at one time

[jdt]

well , i can't answer your ? knight stock , but if my ybm's finished a 16 hr track i'd figure that hog was feeding there 16 hrs ago and was bedded down afew hundred yards ( at the most ) away !  

[Cutter Bay Kennels]

To think, if you're willing to part with your hard earned money, you too could purchase a pup that shows him in the pedigree several times over. EXTRA, EXTRA, READ ALL ABOUT IT!!!

[Randy_P]

Not to argue but just because its 16 hours old doesnt mean the hog would be 48 miles away.....BUT  with 16 hours transpired the hog HAD to have went a lil ways bedded up, woke up, and moved further away over the 16 hours..  Even if the hog was within a mile or two a cur dog taken a 16 hour old track and catching the hog is something I would have to see to believe.  

On a side note: I have not heard of any Weatherford dogs taking tracks that old so does this mean Ol' Ben does not produce pups as good or better than himself??  Something to think about.   No doubt there a several good weatherford dogs out there but......

[jerryg]

I saw a blue dog take a wounded deer track 18 hrs after the deer was shot!  This is true, I tracked the deer the night before and my dogs could not pick up the track after about 3/4 mile.  The dog was brought in the next day at 10am, he tracked the deer until 2pm until he bayed it up barly alive.  This was Otis, Cuatro Hindes dog.  The dog was pulled off the track twice to drink water and cool off, then put back on the track. I seen it for real, not on the interweb!

Jerryg   

[Randy_P]

Im not saying it cant be done or that it has never been done but I would just have to see it to believe it.

[Cutter Bay Kennels]

Jerry,
A Bluetick that has a cold nose is a lot more common that a cur tracking 16 hr old imprints. Both types of dogs have their strengths and weaknesses. However, true cold-nosed is not a cur trait.  Most guys that hunt curs will tell you a 2.5 hr old track is a lot for a cur.  I know there are exceptions, but not 16 hours worth of them. 

[jdt]

Jerry,
A Bluetick that has a cold nose is a lot more common that a cur tracking 16 hr old imprints. Both types of dogs have their strengths and weaknesses. However, true cold-nosed is not a cur trait.  Most guys that hunt curs will tell you a 2.5 hr old track is a lot for a cur.  I know there are exceptions, but not 16 hours worth of them. 

   you said it just right bud !    and i'm a straight yeller dog man  ! lol

[YELLOWBLACKMASK]

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[spazhogdog]

Blood trailing is not the same as a track.  or at least that is what I was told.  Blood scent does not break down like a tract will,   So a 16 hour hog track is not the same as a 16 hour blood trail.

[tnhillbilly]

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CHICKEN!!!!!   LOL!!!

I dont know of too many hounds that could or would take a 16 hr old track.   I have all ben dogs, and if he could do it, he SURE aint throwin it, or the long range.

[YELLOWBLACKMASK]

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CHICKEN!!!!!   LOL!!!

I dont know of too many hounds that could or would take a 16 hr old track.   I have all ben dogs, and if he could do it, he SURE aint throwin it, or the long range.

Yea figured this was a no win situation for me. So I better stay clear. SOOOOOOO how bout them Cowboys!!!   

[tnhillbilly]

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CHICKEN!!!!!   LOL!!!

I dont know of too many hounds that could or would take a 16 hr old track.   I have all ben dogs, and if he could do it, he SURE aint throwin it, or the long range.

Yea figured this was a no win situation for me. So I better stay clear. SOOOOOOO how bout them Cowboys!!!   

 

[Reuben]

Weatherford’s Ben made his living catching bad cattle, fact. He was a dead catch dog on hogs, and the best I ever legged a hog behind myself, many other say the same, cold nose, he could and did turn cattle and hog tracks 16 plus hours old, heavy distance winder, wide deep hunt, extremely intense working dog, if a cow ran off she wore him as fast as he got there. Heavy windmill, extreme hard fast windmill, on ranker cattle he would quarterback. Extremely impressive conformation amazing speed, cat quickness and agility, heart, drive, desire, bottom , natural ability in every way, 65 pound light fawn yellow, wide, deep chest, long body and leg, good arch in his back, tight high flank. 

I went and read up on Wrights website for yellowBlackMouthCurs and saw that it is claimed that Ben took a 16 hour old track and caught the hog!!

 

It seems to me that Donald Cain wrote that descriptionon of the Ben dog. Donald used to write a column in the Full Cry magazine and he was a promoter of the FBMC and if I am not mistaken he was one of the creators of the FBMC association. He featured a dog every month in his column as well as breeder of the FBMC.

The description you just wrote is exactly his style of writing. I am willing to bet he wrote that...He was super high on the Ben dog.


I don't remember ever reading about his sire and dam. I believe that a great bloodline is formed around a great dog that comes from great dogs.

[coach]

Blood trailing is not the same as a track.  or at least that is what I was told.  Blood scent does not break down like a tract will,   So a 16 hour hog track is not the same as a 16 hour blood trail.

On the contrary it is most of the time a deer is lost, it is done so because they lost the blood trail. Meaning the bleeding has stopped or plugged itself up. The dog has trailed it long enough to start to trail the animal now by scent. I truly believe some dogs might have a better nose than others but you seperate them on their drive some have the ability to trail or push a track but won't. The handler sometimes must make the dog push the track and teach them what you want out of them.

In 1991 we were rounding up cattle south of Marfa and the hunter's found a fresh kill, this was at 9am. We called a buddy Rick to let him know if he wanted to run the Lion. We walked up the mountain to scout and verify the kill we found the kill and jumped the lion and pushed him off the kill. We went back to Ft. Davis to load up everything mules and dogs we got back out their the next morning at 6am. I was was telling myself there was no way these dogs were ever going to run this almost 20+ old track. I be go to hell if the dogs circled the kill and picked up the exact path the Lion bolted out. Those dogs ran for almost 9hrs before they lost him down a very steep bluff. I was truly amazed by that pack of dogs.

[Reuben]

It is my belief that quite a few dogs can smell a track but the dog must be genetically inclined to take a cold track. Some dogs just don't get excited on an old track but most hounds do. Most curs do not respond to a cold track.

I have seen quite a few catahoulas and bmc's pass up a track that mtn curs will take. Quite a few mtn curs will take a 3 or 4 hour track or older. I just know that if the sign is fresh the dog better bay a hog even if it is 2 miles off. A good cur dog should circle wide if there is too much scent in one location and then find the exit track and follow it.

[matt_aggie04]

Jerry,
A Bluetick that has a cold nose is a lot more common that a cur tracking 16 hr old imprints. Both types of dogs have their strengths and weaknesses. However, true cold-nosed is not a cur trait.  Most guys that hunt curs will tell you a 2.5 hr old track is a lot for a cur.  I know there are exceptions, but not 16 hours worth of them. 

You do realize that the dog Jerry is talking about is a BLUE LACY not a BLUE TICK!

[matt_aggie04]

I should also add that I think most dogs smell the world around them pretty similar.  Where the difference is that I have seen is that some dogs will take that older track and see what they can do with it while others just realize that it isnt worth it and keep hunting looking for a fresher track.  I have seen some cases where a dog produced right behind another and still don't know that the second dog smelled it any better but just wanted to try and then maybe the track warmed up the deeper he got.  There a lot of reasons why some dogs take older tracks and why sometimes any given dog will take a colder track than usual.