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Author Topic: My YBMC trailed a 16 hour old track!!! I read it on the web!!!!  (Read 5537 times)
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« Reply #40 on: June 02, 2011, 09:46:29 am »

My question is....how do they know the hog that was bayed/caught was they same that left the track? You reckon he was the only hog in the woods?

In my case, because I knew what stand he was shot from and he still had the guy's arrow in him, which was the same as the ones he still had in his quiver.

10-4, I should have clarified that I was speaking to the original post.
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« Reply #41 on: June 02, 2011, 09:49:03 am »

Blood trailing is not the same as a track.  or at least that is what I was told.  Blood scent does not break down like a tract will,   So a 16 hour hog track is not the same as a 16 hour blood trail.

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I pulled my 9 pound blood trailing wiener dog off the track of a gut shot deer around 5 o'clock one evening because the deer was still alive when she found it.
Took her back the next day after the morning hunt 16-17 hours later. Put her back on the track and she waisted no time leaving our lease and finding the dead deer better than a quarter mile on the neighbors place.
She would have taken that track and found that deer if it was 32 hours old.
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« Reply #42 on: June 02, 2011, 10:10:04 am »

My question is....how do they know the hog that was bayed/caught was they same that left the track? You reckon he was the only hog in the woods?

In my case, because I knew what stand he was shot from and he still had the guy's arrow in him, which was the same as the ones he still had in his quiver.

10-4, I should have clarified that I was speaking to the original post.

Gotcha, sorry about that.
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« Reply #43 on: June 02, 2011, 10:18:14 am »

Blood trailing is not the same as a track.  or at least that is what I was told.  Blood scent does not break down like a tract will,   So a 16 hour hog track is not the same as a 16 hour blood trail.

That's right!
I pulled my 9 pound blood trailing wiener dog off the track of a gut shot deer around 5 o'clock one evening because the deer was still alive when she found it.
Took her back the next day after the morning hunt 16-17 hours later. Put her back on the track and she waisted no time leaving our lease and finding the dead deer better than a quarter mile on the neighbors place.
She would have taken that track and found that deer if it was 32 hours old.

My old blood trail beagle was borrowed by a buddy to find a doe that his uncle had lost.  They brought her over there about 5 hours after the doe was shot.  She found it quickly for them.  He had lost a buck the morning before.  Just for grins, they put her on the trail at that bow stand.  She grinded it out, and they would find a puddle of blood along the way to confirm she was doing good on it.  It took her a while, but she did find the buck.  I think he said she took about an hour on it.

His uncle was completely impressed. 
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« Reply #44 on: June 02, 2011, 10:20:37 am »

Her litter mate brother was better than her.  I ended up selling him, as someone saw him track and bay a wounded deer.  He insisted on owning him.  Freckles was a good one.  I think he still hunts him today.  He'd be right around 9 years old. 
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« Reply #45 on: June 04, 2011, 07:47:04 am »

I just wish i could look at a trak and tell you this on is 6 hours old this one is 10 hours old and so on i can can tell you is it wasn't here yesterday!!!
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« Reply #46 on: June 04, 2011, 08:00:35 am »

Why is it so hard to believe? All that means is someone seen a hog in a certain spot 16 hours before the dog was turned loose. Why would anyone think a hog would go 48 miles in 16 hours? It could have been dead calm with very high humidity or dew on the ground and a really smelly hog. On top of that it may have been sitting a few hundred yards away waiting for the feeder to go off again.
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« Reply #47 on: June 04, 2011, 09:35:05 am »

Just to add to the fray here, I used to help a friend on his bowhunting operation that had an old beagle gyp he used for trailing. I have seen her find deer shot 16-20 hours earlier and trail thru herds of live deer doing it.

Growing up, we had several dogs around the farm that followed the tractor and shredder to the pasture every time it went out. One morning Sonny said they all stood on their head when they passed by a spot I had shot a deer 3 days before.

But the 16 hour old track story has to be taken with a grain of salt just because as mentioned before, how do you know it was 16 hours old ?

And while running a bowhunting operation South of Sabinal, I know some hogs would come to a feeder and eat, go water and bed down and never travel over maybe 300 yards in a circle. Blade will work a trail for 15-20 minutes before looking for something a little hotter. In a situation like I just described, I would bet a pallet of your favorite dog feed he would find that hog. Is that truly a 16 hour old track? I guess technically , yeah, but with the hog still in winding distance, what time he made that trail is not that big a deal.

A story can be told however you want to tell it. Leave out parts to make it seem more difficult or leave out the tough stuff to make it seem easy. Outfitters do it all the time. I did it when I was outfitting. Its not really lieing, just telling the parts of the story you want to ease the clients mind or give him high hopes. 
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« Reply #48 on: June 04, 2011, 05:29:43 pm »


I think a lot of People would be surprised at what their dogs are capable of, if they just stayed out of the way...  "Ole Dan is gettin' out a lil far, hate him to bump a deer."
Most folks won't give dogs time to sort out a track either, if it's not hot enough to bolt with, let's move on...
That gets dogs in the rut of not even considering those colder tracks...



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If the dog handler is always in a hurry and doesn't hunt with the curs then the curs will learn to leave colder tracks alone because the handler will not wait on the dogs and the dogs know this so they will be more focused on keeping up with the 4 wheeler than running a colder track.
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« Reply #49 on: June 04, 2011, 06:44:09 pm »


I think a lot of People would be surprised at what their dogs are capable of, if they just stayed out of the way...  "Ole Dan is gettin' out a lil far, hate him to bump a deer."
Most folks won't give dogs time to sort out a track either, if it's not hot enough to bolt with, let's move on...
That gets dogs in the rut of not even considering those colder tracks...



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If the dog handler is always in a hurry and doesn't hunt with the curs then the curs will learn to leave colder tracks alone because the handler will not wait on the dogs and the dogs know this so they will be more focused on keeping up with the 4 wheeler than running a colder track.

I hunt with Jay Hutto a lot. His old Dan dog will work a trail as long as it takes if you let him. If things are a little slow, Jay'll say, " Let's let Ol Dan see what he can come up with "More often than not, he'll start a hog. It may be a longs ways from the start, but he'll get him up and then we get close and send the rest of the dogs to him.

Jesse Paul has hunted with Dan too and I bet he'll be the first to agree with me, it can get aggravating as hell sometimes waiting on him to work it out.

I like a dog to start one quick, but if it aint happening that night, a cold nosed dog can make the difference in getting a hog or getting skunked.
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« Reply #50 on: June 04, 2011, 08:20:34 pm »

i wa stheir.
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« Reply #51 on: June 05, 2011, 12:06:28 am »

well i read the same thing i think one time also .and correct me if i'm wrong but it was a cow track , and he finished it 6 ? miles from where he started it ? and then settled the cattle to drive ... its been a while but the original post sounded familiar .
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« Reply #52 on: June 05, 2011, 12:22:51 am »

Jdt I believe that's what I read also
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