Texas_Cur
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« on: June 05, 2011, 01:53:29 pm » |
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On a recent hunt we got reminded that no catch vest is cut proof, no matter how much good press it gets on the internet. Every vest that we have ever owned has managed to get punctured...including Ugly Dog, Larry Paris (P&P), Southern cross, kevlar, mutilayer kevlar, wet felt and combinations of each. The only vest that was still intact was a month old vest from P&P....that was until a recent hunt. Our dog took two pass thrus the double enforced chest area that got him good. I'm absolutely not throwing mud on any one maker because I think they all make quality vest with quality materials. The topic of which vest is best is regularly posted so I though this might be good to share. They are all pretty good but they are not 100% of the time tools. Find the vest from a quality outfit that allows your dog the most natural range of motion and let it rip. Just my .02. Thinking about doing a test this evening to see which is most cut resistant. Going to drop a knife from waist heigh and see if it passes through and how much. I will post a video of my findings. Here are some pics of the vests with their cut throughs. Larry Paris vest Ugly Dog 2 layer kevlar (the cuts have been sew shut but you can see where they were) Ugly Dog 3 layer kevlar
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rdjustham
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« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2011, 02:41:56 pm » |
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your absolutely right. just gotta hope the vest takes most of the abuse. im pretty curious to see your test results keep us posted
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UNDERDOG
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« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2011, 03:47:11 pm » |
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Texas cur....it's prolly cause you catch dogs aren't catching "properly " ha ha Na but really your right...none are 100% but a poke or two is better than the alternative ....
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Amokabs
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« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2011, 05:00:33 pm » |
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But thats still a layer or two protection before it gets to your dog. Without the vest, that'd be pretty ugly. Be interesting to see your test results.
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M Bennet
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« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2011, 06:22:56 pm » |
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is the p&p vest 9 ply in chest and around ribs
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Monty Bennet
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zachW
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« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2011, 09:19:04 pm » |
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i have heard stories of p and p getting shot with a 22 and not getting a hole
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M Bennet
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« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2011, 09:31:11 pm » |
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the vest on the left is panp 7yrs and its never been cut through but larry dont makem like that one any more,iv stabed it and cant put a hole in it,the only thing iv found wrong with this vest is it soaks up water,but maybe ill meet a boar that will do it, and zach next timme we meet ill let you use a 22 on my vest and show you,
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« Last Edit: June 05, 2011, 09:35:36 pm by M Bennet »
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Monty Bennet
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Texas_Cur
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« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2011, 09:40:13 pm » |
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So I laid the three (P&P, Ugly dog 2 layer kevlar and Ugle dog 3 layer) vests out in my yard with the chest section facing up. I dropped my hunting knife from about chest high. I did this 5 times with each vest.
P&P- the knife passed through 3 times about 1/4-1/2 inch Ugly Dog 2 Layer- the knife passed through 2 times about 1/4-1/2 an inch Ugly Dog 3 Layer- NO PUNCTURES!
Hands down the top performer was the 3 layer Ugly Dog Titan vest.
I videoed all of it, I will post it up tomorrow when I get a chance to upload it.
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Texas_Cur
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« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2011, 09:41:08 pm » |
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i have heard stories of p and p getting shot with a 22 and not getting a hole
I got one for sale if you would like to try
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Purebreedcolt
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« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2011, 09:44:32 pm » |
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I have seen the vest mbennet is talking about and no I don't know if a 223 would go through it lol just playing but it is one stout vest and never seen one yet that feels that stout and seen the holes where he tried to stab through it. Wish larry still made them like that
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Cull Buck
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is the p&p vest 9 ply in chest and around ribs
Monte, I ordered it to be double re-enforced in the chest area over his normal catchdog vest.....which looking thru the cut means 6 layers. The rib area is I guess 4 layers. If 6 layers won't do it it won't work for me. As is, the vest probably retains more body heat then either of the other vest. Not a scientific fact, rather an observation we made after running it on about 10 hunts and seeing how hot the dogs got and the necessity to remove the vest to allow for proper cool down....not required with the other vest on the same hunts. This time of year I worry about heat as much as the hogs so I'm willing to go any thicker. If you would like this on for a back up, I sell it to you for $50 (was 110 brand new). I does has several cuts thru it though...two from a hog and several more from comparison testing.
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M Bennet
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thanks cull buck but iv got 5 catch vest and iv desinged my own vest and i also hunt year round and dont have a problem,he makes open tops for sumer , my new vest has floaters on top of it to help keep my cd up so he dont drown its just a new thing im trying. but i promise the way my vest are made a knife will not go through it. you could drop a knife off my house and it wont go through. send it back and get a open top and make the chest and rib aere 9 ply, and i bet he wont even charge you.
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Monty Bennet
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rdjustham
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thanks cull buck but iv got 5 catch vest and iv desinged my own vest and i also hunt year round and dont have a problem,he makes open tops for sumer , my new vest has floaters on top of it to help keep my cd up so he dont drown its just a new thing im trying. but i promise the way my vest are made a knife will not go through it. you could drop a knife off my house and it wont go through. send it back and get a open top and make the chest and rib aere 9 ply, and i bet he wont even charge you.
Monty would you mind explaining how you make your vests please.. Ive been thinking of tryin this myself but i dont wanna do i half arse. Found all the materials i would need on the net just not sure how to go about making the dang thing. Kinda hit a road block, but would like to do some experimenting since two of my vests are shot (not literally )
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