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« on: June 29, 2011, 01:03:53 pm » |
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just thinkning over some of the wants and needs of a good cur dog! but here is my question, what breeds do u think it took to get the genetics of a BMC, YBMC, or just a good ole cur in general? the way i`ve been told one ole farmer needed a dog that could find hogs or cattle out in the sticks. and a ole hunter/trapper needed a dog that could find game but hold it for him at the same time. each man had a dog that possed some traits that the other was looken for. so they made the cross and split the litter. the cross breeding kept goen on from farmer to hunter back and forth for years. there is more to this. but what im getting to is what is the major breeds in your own .02!what did it take to produce to days curs? im not looken for a pedia discription, im looken for the dog mans thoughts.i would really like to hear some of the more seasoned men or womens thoughts on this. any breeding journals would help. i wanna get down to the roots of the dogs that so many of us love.
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rdjustham
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« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2011, 05:02:33 pm » |
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Well the way i always heard it Fl curs are a mix of BMC, Bulldog and dependin on who you talk to Hounds (though im not real sure about that one). The Crackers back in the day needed a dog that could handle itself with the animals in Fl (bulldog) and had the hunt and herding for cow work (bmc). but thats just how i heard it, depending on who you talk too and how old their strain is they may or may not smack you for the bull dog comment..
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« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2011, 05:11:09 pm » |
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Im thinking some sort of herding dogs and bulldog crosses
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« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2011, 05:49:35 pm » |
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Cur dogs have been in the souther parts of our country for well over a 100 years.The name cur means just the way it sounds more than one breed.But it depends on what part of the Southern part of the country you are from what Xs where used.But most of what they had where either hound,fiest,terrior type dogs to breed.Over the years people have added breeds to them as they came along.
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warrent423
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« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2011, 08:46:26 pm » |
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My family has been building stock bred curdogs for generations. Some of mine are redbone/old english white and some are leapard/old english white crosses. Those being the foundation breeds of both lines. The leopard dogs we used were of the old timey, black and tan dogs. Long legged, block headed. My great grandfather bred some German short haired pointer into some of his early dogs, but we have gotten away from that . The line of white bulldogs we use make damm fine cowdogs all by themselves  |
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« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2011, 10:31:15 pm » |
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i heard boxer was bred into the line to get the working dogs size
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rdjustham
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« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2011, 10:55:49 pm » |
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My family has been building stock bred curdogs for generations. Some of mine are redbone/old english white and some are leapard/old english white crosses. Those being the foundation breeds of both lines. The leopard dogs we used were of the old timey, black and tan dogs. Long legged, block headed. My great grandfather bred some German short haired pointer into some of his early dogs, but we have gotten away from that . The line of white bulldogs we use make damm fine cowdogs all by themselves Warrent, girl that works at the vet i use in Alva swears by her Abxredbones, never hunted with one, but sounds like a fast gritty dog.. |
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« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2011, 10:05:45 am » |
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way back i imagine they were decended from european dogs used for boar and big game... plotts, trig hounds, stag hounds, weimerainer, bulldogs, ridgebacks, leapards... hard to say where the versatile all around cur dog really came from... but its a dying breed thats for sure... all the breeding this into that to see what it does and breeding them just to do it cuz u think itll make a perfect pup or that itll sell good.,..and ive been guilty of it too. with the exception of one dog mine are all out of a 35+ yr old line and stay wove tight, occasionally ill throw a little plot back in, recently threw some GSP in, but mainly stick to the big leggy black mouth dogs that been workin for me all these years... Lol breedin dogs is like a loaded pistol... should only be handled by someone that knows how to use it |
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« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2011, 11:49:54 pm » |
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If I remember right I heard that cur dogs came over from Europe early in our nation's history. They were mutts that hunted not a particular breed. Then here people wanted a more consistent breeding and started to set standards. But that is just out of my head and that is all messed up  But I think it is right. |
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My family has been building stock bred curdogs for generations. Some of mine are redbone/old english white and some are leapard/old english white crosses. Those being the foundation breeds of both lines. The leopard dogs we used were of the old timey, black and tan dogs. Long legged, block headed. My great grandfather bred some German short haired pointer into some of his early dogs, but we have gotten away from that . The line of white bulldogs we use make damm fine cowdogs all by themselves Warrent, girl that works at the vet i use in Alva swears by her Abxredbones, never hunted with one, but sounds like a fast gritty dog.. i love redbone crosses...i had a pit/redbone that was Great!!! |
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My family has been building stock bred curdogs for generations. Some of mine are redbone/old english white and some are leapard/old english white crosses. Those being the foundation breeds of both lines. The leopard dogs we used were of the old timey, black and tan dogs. Long legged, block headed. My great grandfather bred some German short haired pointer into some of his early dogs, but we have gotten away from that . The line of white bulldogs we use make damm fine cowdogs all by themselves That's exactly how i've always heard fl curs came into existance! |
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