Simple question

[Cutter Bay Kennels]

You sure your talkin bout me??  Not sure i ever chip in much in this type of topic 

You are correct. I believe I got you confused with Bryant. It probably won't be my last time doing it either. Your names are the same. Sorry about that. I modified my post.

[UNDERDOG]

No sweat ....happened before, just didn't want to be caught in the middle of a fight with no bullets 

[Cutter Bay Kennels]

I just did the math on the Zimectrin Gold (1.55% Ivomec, 7.75% Praziquantel) Based on the canine dosage rate of each (Ivomec - .002250 mg/lb and Praziquantel - 2.5mg/lb).  The tube is advertised to treat one 1,250 lb horse based on the horse admin. rate of (Ivomec - 91mcg/lb and Praziquantel - 454 mcg/lb).  Given this info, we can calculate that the entire tube contains 113.75 mg of Ivomec and 567.50 mg of Praziquantel.  The ratio being 4.989

Using a 60lb dog for an example, to treat tapes the dog would need 150 mg of praziquantel (60lbs X 2.5mg).  Divide that by our ratio (4.989) and to administer that amount of Praziquantel to the dog would be giving the dog 30.066 mg (or cc's) of Ivomec.  A 60lb dog needs .135 cc of Ivomec.  (60lbs X .002250 mg/lb).

Based on these calculations, Scott is correct.  To treat them properly for the tapes, you would probably kill them on the Ivomec.

[noelle]

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[southtexasff]

When some of you all on here get your Strongid, what type of container does it come in.  The one I get from the vet is a plastic bottle with a label that says strongid on it.  It just seems the pups I got look a wormy and I have been giving em the strongid.  I was kinda thinking maybe the vet kinda water it down a little to be able to get more out of the supply they sell it from.  How young is too young to give a pup Ivomec

[UNDERDOG]

I'm not Tryin to step on anybodys toes nor do I claim to know everything about anything, but my younger age don't mean I ain't been around the block a time or two either... I grew up in it, by 1983 I was sittin in a saddle feet dangling watching my pets get sewed up, wouldn't see a hog Gettin stuck by a knife or shot just for sport back then!!!! Them yello dogs mite have been $&@! Eaters but caught cows all day and Bayed hogs at nite, hooked or cut never seen a vet, got sewed up with tail hair and doctored with whatever was handy, coon hunted competitions with my uncle by 12yrs old, had sum walker and English dogs, they got doctored the same way. I'm not a vet and I'm sure some of y'all old timers and new comers can still teach me plenty, but I feel as tho I'm Bein called out and I can tie a hog cut a boar sew up a dog or doctor one as good as anyone here and do it behind some pretty good dogs with 35+yrs of breeding. I didn't just jump on here cuz I started huntin a while back and think I'm king dog doctor and hog hunter, I enjoy readin and talkin and sharing opinions with y'all but honestly things aren't like they use to be, stickin hogs or shootin them ain't my style, nor is consulting or goin to the vet, I still cut em mark em and let em go, it's kinda like a way of life to me not just the thrill of stabbing a hog, there's plenty of hogs around so if u like killin em hey go ahead everybody has different ways and they ain't none of em wrong long as it's satisfying... I just like to do my own thing it was planted in my brain as a youngun to not b wasteful and my Ol dad would jump out his grave if I killed just to do it. I'm gonna keep on doin things the way I do it and that's called an opinion, a feller without one ain't got much goin for him... I used cow wormer(ivomec) a long time and mine stay healthy, in my opinion it kills the worms, the z gold every quarter cleans up the tapes and little easier on the guts. I've met some pretty good folks and some not so good and whatever works for u works... End of story lol I don't wanna get banned from yalls site for voicin my opinion, like I said I enjoy it and I apologize for anyone that I offended... Except you peachy, Ur still a rookie Lmfao!! All bs aside I respect those older fellers that know more than me and I'm pretty sure y'all know where I'm comin from... Can go on and on for days and end up rite in this same spot so I'm gonna let it go hope to see some of y'all in the woods soon

Glad you can admit being wrong 

[noelle]

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[noelle]

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[Black Smith]

The key is to start them on ivomec early and stay with it. Ivomec will not kill adult heart worms.

[SCHitemHard]

so sayin if i was to start my dog on it, hes 26 pounds.

how would i go about it?

[noelle]

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[uglydog]

just did the math on the Zimectrin Gold (1.55% Ivomec, 7.75% Praziquantel) Based on the canine dosage rate of each (Ivomec - .002250 mg/lb and Praziquantel - 2.5mg/lb).  The tube is advertised to treat one 1,250 lb horse based on the horse admin. rate of (Ivomec - 91mcg/lb and Praziquantel - 454 mcg/lb).  Given this info, we can calculate that the entire tube contains 113.75 mg of Ivomec and 567.50 mg of Praziquantel.  The ratio being 4.989

Using a 60lb dog for an example, to treat tapes the dog would need 150 mg of praziquantel (60lbs X 2.5mg).  Divide that by our ratio (4.989) and to administer that amount of Praziquantel to the dog would be giving the dog 30.066 mg (or cc's) of Ivomec.  A 60lb dog needs .135 cc of Ivomec.  (60lbs X .002250 mg/lb).

Based on these calculations, Scott is correct.  To treat them properly for the tapes, you would probably kill them on the Ivomec.

Ivomec- is for heartworms not intestinal worms in DOGS, although it does take care of some of them some of the time, no other wormers kill heartworms, I vomec is the active ingredient in heartguard that the vets prescribe,

Praziquantel is the active ingredient that kills tape worms that are caused by fleas dogs carry two different strains of tapes and if you got white peices of worm that look like rice crawling out of your dogs but, then you need Praziquantel, I don't care what the label for HORSE wormers say about it, different directins/medications for different species of animals

to be efficient you need to be able to rotate between Safeguard/Pyrantel paomate (yellow colored) and Panacure/Fenbendazol/ Safeguard (white colored) which are whats need for Hook worms, Whip Worms,and Round Worms, which Ivomec is not EFFECIENT at for DOGS.

Ivermectic Gold- has Ivomec and Praziquantel but to get the right dosage of Praziquantel for DOG tapes you will severly overdose on Ivomec for DOGS

HERE IS A QUESTION for you why do Vetrinarians prescribe Heartguard and Heartguard Plus is number one wormer?
Heartguard has Ivomec for Heartworms and also has additional wormers for intestinal worms to be EFFECTIVE

[noelle]

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[Dexter]

[Reuben]

No sweat ....happened before, just didn't want to be caught in the middle of a fight with no bullets 

 

[bighogtexasstyle]

i bet you ole boys dont whup yall's dogs either probably got a shock collar lol.well i whup mine i ivermect mine i horse worm mine i dmso mine and have had to use creek bank mud or sandbar sand to stop the bleeding and sewed em up wherever and with whatever i could.i've even used the pour down the back ivermectin on some pup's once.just like deer hunting hog hunting has become a big money thing,just like anything else be it horse racing,fist fighting,or football.once you get money involved it takes the true heart out of sport.cull and cull hard if he aint no good dont say well he'll be better by this time next year.KILL THE FICTISIOUS SOB.my fondest memories are of a dog my pa had forty years ago,his name was YOGI he had a real handle on his dogs he was a cow/hog/deer/squirrel dog,you wise dog men probably aint wanting to believe that but its the truth.pa pa had this kinda handle on him.he holler huey get ahead and they was hunting cows,no bs treeing squirrels or baying hogs or running deer.he holler suey get ahead and YOGI was finding hogs,it's like he read the old mans mind.his dogs never seen no ivermect he used cow wormer in them big silver syringes.he had a handle on them dogs but them dogs were his lively hood.if one didnt make the cut he didnt leave him at the end of a culdesac or on a dirt road,he killed it and disposed of it himself.remember cull and cull hard its the right thing to do.if i've offended anyone well live and learn,before these politicians are finished we may be back to living off the land.

[Mike]

I can see you two smart a$$es won't last long on here.

I guess everyone else is a bunch of idiots that don't know $hit about raising dogs... just what they read on the internet. Probably put their dogs in "time out" for acting up.

I love it when people come on here, think they know everything and act like everyone else is a bunch of idiots.

[Bryant]

Sounds like u got all that info out of a book or off the net... It's a great theory and it looks good in writing but the ability to be technical and the ability to be practical are two different things.

Noelle,

In fact, I did get a good bit of that information out of a book AND off the net.  Merck veterinary manual, manufacturers product literature, statistical data, etc.  Then I took that information, and applied it in a practical approach.  It's called research...see there...the ability to be technical and practical CAN go hand in hand.  It's how problems are solved, and methods and techniques are discovered.  I get worn out frequently on here by people who do things just because granpappy or 'ole so-and-so the dog man said it was so.  I prefer to take the information given, process it and form my own opinion which is based on facts.

Here's a fact for you.  Take 30cc's of Ivomec and inject it in your dog and see what happens.  That's how much you'll be giving him to properly dose worms with Zimectrin Gold.  I question why your using the Zimectrin Gold anyhow if your also using straight Ivomec?

When some of you all on here get your Strongid, what type of container does it come in.  The one I get from the vet is a plastic bottle with a label that says strongid on it.  It just seems the pups I got look a wormy and I have been giving em the strongid.  I was kinda thinking maybe the vet kinda water it down a little to be able to get more out of the supply they sell it from.  How young is too young to give a pup Ivomec

The Strongid you should be using for your dogs is "Strongid T".  Comes in different containers due to different brands but should be yellow.  It is a prescription medication not availble at places such as TSC.  I've posted links before on places to buy it inexpensively over the internet.

[cward]

Bryant  I like the way you word things  even though I have trouble  reading  it because  all the spelling  and punctuation is correct .lol Bryant do you have 1 CC of ivomec I could buy from you. You will have to pay shipping.

[Bryant]

Bryant do you have 1 CC of ivomec I could buy from you. You will have to pay shipping.

Haha!!  That guy was a trip, huh?

Sure...I'll get the Ivomec in the mail today.

And hey...long as were chatting I got this buddy just starting out.  He doesn't have but about $37 to spend but needs some bay dogs, a catchdog, few collars, tracking system, vest, breakstick, dog feed, set of tires for his truck and an ATV if you have an extra laying around.  I've got him covered on Ivomec.