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« on: July 17, 2011, 05:09:46 pm » |
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just curious if any of you boys especially tyhe texans are using this line of apbts as catchdogs. the reason is that casrey basically bred them as a utility line of apbts. i recall mitch allison was tearin up the catch comps with one of caseys blue or blue brindle dogs when the comps were legal and goin strong in texas.
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« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2011, 09:17:43 pm » |
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Hows it going Gary, I would be willing to bet there is plenty of that blood over around huntsville and Conroe TX. Alot of people used to get dogs from Mitch in years past. Most of the ones I saw in action were pretty good CD's. I used to work dogs at his place and hunt with him now and then. I have several of his dogs on video that he had on the yard back around 99 to 2002. He had some nice blues and blue brindles. He also had a nice trophy collection from those comps in the early 90's. Watching those old video's will make you appreciate a good bulldog. Mitch and a few others had some show stoppers but for the most part, there were some poor quality CD's on the video's I've watched from the East TX comps. Now days, I'm sure the competition would be real tough because there are a lot more people breeding for CD's. If you have any recent pics of your new pup, shoot me an email, I'd like to see them.
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gary fuller
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« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2011, 09:36:20 pm » |
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hey britt its goin ok i guess,lol.i have video of some of the comps at places other than mitchs and there was some good dogs along with the not good ones. i kinda figgured there should be some of that blood down that way too. i got the ped on my new pup and ill have to get it to you somehow.i can see if my daughter has any new pictures of him i can send ya, gary
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« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2011, 10:15:24 pm » |
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I have a female preacherman/watchdog and she catches pretty good.
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« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2011, 10:45:38 pm » |
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I remember them ole Preacherman dogs . Big black dogs the ones I know of.
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« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2011, 09:00:03 am » |
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yep big and black thats him!
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gary fuller
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« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2011, 09:55:21 am » |
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not familiar with preacherman. bein as you said big and black and you guys are in texas , is it down from plumbers alligator stuff? thanks gary
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« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2011, 03:09:12 pm » |
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Im in south Florida Preacherman not sure if he goes back to Alligator, he has rastjacko in the ped in the back somewhere.
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« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2011, 03:29:11 pm » |
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Yeah am thinking of a dog name Freemans "Preacher Boy". Those Hammonds Alligator dogs make some pretty mean catch dogs. Dont know if that is the Chavis Ch Jocko line are not but ole man Fletcher Chavis was a hell of a dog man .
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« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2011, 10:27:25 pm » |
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i had a watchdog/razors edge line he was decent
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just askin but who had the preacherman dog??? there was a guy in the area i live in that had a dog named preacher that was big and black just wounderin if it maybe the same dog
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I have some Redboy/Jocko stuff that is sang good. I also had some old Plumber's Alligator stuff with a little bit of Carved stuff that worked pretty good as well. One of the best one I have owned is a Redboy/Jocko Eli/Alligator dog. The watchdog stuff is ok if it is crossed with some good game bred stuff. I know a few people that have some "pure" watchdog bred dogs and I just don't like them.
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tmatt, what is it you didnt like about the straight watchdog apbts? just curious. i just asked about them as i am friends with the creator and also some guys here in california own some and i thought maybe as they werent typically smaller dogs that they might make decent catchdogs as i know when casey still had them some were used as cds with success.
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They were not game enough for me. On multiple occasions I seen them take hits that should not have been a big deal and it sent them running. We thought it was just that particular dog at first so we took a few more of his dogs and worked them in a pen. Of the 8 dogs we worked that day 3 looked impressive until they got tired and then they just wouldn't go anymore. It may just be that I am hard on my bulldogs, but they better come everytime no matter how tired they are and they better not stop unless every hair on them is dead. I can't afford to get hurt because a dog quits on me.
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tmatt, thanks for the answer, plenty good enough reason to not like em.
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my Preacherman/Watchdog bitch took some nice hits, cuts, head slams, etc never had her quit, however I would run her 2 times a week 5-8 miles behind the 4 wheeler thru some ruff country and that kept her well conditioned but the only thing i wish she was leggier, she tend to bottom out (her chest) runnin thru how rutts LOL!!! anyways I respect others opinions!
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to be honest i think the only papered (garner bred dog) that any of my buddies have used as a cd here in many years was shot on a hunt after grabbin his umpteenth dog. my friend who owned him had 2 hi 30ish lbers he used and my hunting partners son after seein em both on a big boar one night said" gimme one of your 75 pound abs to hold a hog any day" he said both them little game dogs were off the ground and basically floppin in the wind. but this was with a p[ack of dogs that would not catch on a bad hog even once the cd caught. the consistancy of your pack of dogs makes all the difference in the world on what you need as a cd, that is even if you need/use a cd.
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I have used a bunch of different APBTs over the years, some with success and others with none. I have owned most of the common gamebred lines and in the last ten years or so I think I finally got it figured out. I am sure there are good watchdog bred dogs out there but I guess they are not consistent enough for me. With the lines I am using and breeding I may have one out of every 3 or 4 litters that don't make the cut, and the main reason they don't make the cut is because I can't keep them off of other dogs.
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« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2011, 08:36:53 pm » |
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I hunt with Mitch Allison his so called
Watchdog line is just a dash of watch
Dog and 95percent Eli maverick
Almost pure boudreaux blood I
Personally breed this strain we share
Dogs to keep this strain a going
Strong I've heard it said that the
ABs that are performance bred CDs
Have a good percent of maverick
Blood and that's why they work so well
I personally like the pure eli
Maverick Boudreaux blood for
Catching pigs
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gary fuller
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« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2011, 09:32:14 pm » |
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bmac, i know mitch been usin eli stuff for along time but know he also had one dog from casey that he did great at in the comps. the ab infusions from maverick are from a dog named zydeco dancer and done by john litchthardt and some like em and some dislike , kinda like all stuff.
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