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« Reply #160 on: July 26, 2011, 10:27:46 am »

My offer still stands if any Dog Trainers want some.
You give me $500 for the dog keep him a yr and If he will-Hunt long range 500+ yards,stop a runner,bay,not trash I buy him back in a yr for $2500.
No feed
No gas

Straight up deal he or she is yours for a yr.

This is a no brainer for all the Dog Trainers I've heard  all that Chit talk,Step up and get you some.

If your sucessful I have a pen full of them I will start sending your way.
Hell you could probably retire a wealthy Dog Trainer in a few years.
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« Reply #161 on: July 26, 2011, 10:35:02 am »

i would have no problem with that deal except i dont got the money to do it.
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« Reply #162 on: July 26, 2011, 10:39:01 am »

Centex this is not calling you out This is for anyone that claims to be a dog trainer.

I believe in Genetics so strongly this is a great bet for me.
I've pissed off alot more at the crap table with not near as much fun as this could be. Grin
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« Reply #163 on: July 26, 2011, 11:38:22 am »

mike can i get ur number?Huh? 
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« Reply #164 on: July 26, 2011, 11:56:08 am »

Sounds to me like 5 or 6 of yall need to set up a hunt. Not for the dogs, a good ol' back woods brawl. Think that's what most posts are boiling down too. Basically its plain and simple, everyone does there own thing. Prob will keep doing everything they do if that's what they like.
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« Reply #165 on: July 26, 2011, 01:28:02 pm »

yea im serious. 
there is so much argueing and the last page kinda pisssed me off they was pretty much leading
to dog trainers are scared of the deal
ill train a dog just for the bragging rights. Cause it can be done.
i will run them with my best dog   LONG RANGE and hope he eventually takes to her hunting style.
but ill get him goin weather its 100yrds or 1 mile

centexhogdogger,

I think it can be done but the dog had it in him to begin with...But most dogs of this type are usually good me to dogs. They are good for the pack but take that lead dog out and the 1 mile me too dog starts hanging out close and all of a sudden you go from catching hogs to not catching any hogs to speak of...Every dog in the pack should be analyzed for what it is.
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« Reply #166 on: July 26, 2011, 05:33:45 pm »

Man, I got people tryin' to give me dogs all the time.. nice dogs...  anybody with any sense raisin' dogs want's his dogs to go to someone that can bring out the best in them...

I just gave away half my yard to free me up to put my energy into my 2 remaining young dogs...

For me to fool with someone else's junk means taking time away from my dogs... which is MUCH more valuable than $2500.

Was a fun topic though, thanks Mike  Grin
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« Reply #167 on: July 26, 2011, 06:15:54 pm »

I got a headache now.
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« Reply #168 on: July 26, 2011, 06:56:01 pm »

OK you talked me into it.
I double the offer to $5000 cash.
If that makes any better.

OH look here just in off the press.
southtexasdogger said he would go another $2500
That makes it $7500

And Im serious as can be.

Well that would be worth it. Grin
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« Reply #169 on: July 26, 2011, 06:58:18 pm »

And Noah Im not calling you out This is an offer to All the dog trainers on ETHD's.
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« Reply #170 on: July 26, 2011, 07:01:45 pm »

By what I read, all the trainers craw fished. Who would of thought.
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« Reply #171 on: July 26, 2011, 07:06:40 pm »

Hmmmm...  Grin

A question though, why would you risk that much money to prove a point on a dud prospect when you could get a much better product from a good prospect?

Used to drive me crazy when people would insist on me training a horse to do somethin' it just didn't want to do... sure I'll take your money... but why not just put your money into an animal that wants to...

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« Reply #172 on: July 26, 2011, 07:09:09 pm »

The reason is that they are smart enough to know the chances of pulling it off are VERY VERY slim.
Now if a gave them one of my 11 month old linebred Genetics from hell pups that are already finding pigs on their own.
They would jump all over that bet.

For all those dog trainers that have been slappin them gums about ability to TRAIN a dog to hunt and stop and bay and bla,bla,bla

You could sure buy alot of doggin chit or pay a few bills with $7500 Shocked
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« Reply #173 on: July 26, 2011, 07:12:15 pm »

Noah,

That would be called GENETICS and I have over $50,000 tied up in them now.
I think I've put enough into the ones that want to.

And Damn I love a good bet,I just can't help myself. Grin
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« Reply #174 on: July 26, 2011, 07:20:05 pm »

I can just imagine the poor dog in question for this bet... I bet he's a specimen...  Grin
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« Reply #175 on: July 26, 2011, 07:32:30 pm »

I'll never tell Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #176 on: July 26, 2011, 07:34:48 pm »

So back to training vs genetics .....can you take a barn yard rooster and train him to compete and consistently win against a old family of good,genetically strong hatch chickens? Or a ole blue pet bull and train it to compete on a high level and win consistently against a good family of game dogs? ?  No.....the GENETICS are not there....period, right?

Best way I've seen it put yet....

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« Reply #177 on: July 26, 2011, 07:41:04 pm »

I still say I can do it.. Aslong as dog shows energy and not just a dud no matter wat genetics

I would take bet if I had the money to buy the dog
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« Reply #178 on: July 26, 2011, 07:58:44 pm »

Centex I will text you pics of the dog I am betting with.

I can tell you this much the kid that owns him go's to the local college and has had this dog with me no less than 50 hunts.
Why he would even feed him is beside me.
He is a 3 yr old blk brindle that no tellin where he came from.
He has absolutly NO hunt at all.
He will walk beside you all night rather you are walking or hunting off ATV's.
He will only catch when you have walked all the way to the bay and the bulldogs have hit.
Other than that he is a purdy dog

He is gonna need alot of TRAINING Grin
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« Reply #179 on: July 26, 2011, 08:09:49 pm »

$7,500 would buy alot of school supplys.
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