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« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2011, 12:23:22 pm » |
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The old hound men around here called that the 'occiptal protuberance' a 'tree knot'....meaning that if a hound had it, he would be a lot more likely to tree than one that didn't possess the feature.....and I've found it to be somewhat true, but not to the point that they thought it was.
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« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2011, 12:29:17 pm » |
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Occipital protuberance--- in the Dogo they say the larger the knot the larger the head shall be when grown, not sure that is fact either.
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« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2011, 12:46:21 pm » |
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I can see the bigger the knot the bigger the head, that has been true to me before (not like i have have a whole hell of alot of black mouths). But i have not picked a pup with a knot on their head that has not turned out to be a good dog. Hopefully this pup will turn out... If she does then i will be a believer. This pic doesnt do her knot justice, that thing is HUGE.  |
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« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2011, 01:07:51 pm » |
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It's not how long you have been doing it but what you have learned in that time!!!!
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« Reply #24 on: August 10, 2011, 01:10:42 pm » |
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Another example of myth or reason.
When picking a pup hold them up by the nap of the neck, if he hollars pick another and keep the ones that remain silent.
Or the runt of the litter will always yeild a higher percentage of performance from the rest of the litter. Crazy but three of my best dogs have been runts. Haha. What is the reasoning behind this......Unknown to me.
Another example of myth or reason.
When picking a pup hold them up by the nap of the neck, if he hollars pick another and keep the ones that remain silent.
Or the runt of the litter will always yeild a higher percentage of performance from the rest of the litter. Crazy but three of my best dogs have been runts. Haha. What is the reasoning behind this......Unknown to me.
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« Reply #25 on: August 10, 2011, 01:59:15 pm » |
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If anybody has a knot headed runt with low set ears uniform toenails rear dewclaws and never screams when picked up by the neck AND likes dippin snuff I'll buy him off of you.  |
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« Reply #26 on: August 10, 2011, 01:59:38 pm » |
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On picking pups a man told me once he would take all of the pups out of the dog house when they were to small to walk and kinda line them up side by side, He would then go hide and the first pup the mom picked and took back in the box was the one he would choose, he reasoning was that the gyp would pick up and care for the best pup out of survival instinct for her " pack " He believed in it 100% and swore it always worked.  maybe it works, maybe not? but it is about as fool proof as any other method I've ever seen used. @ T-bob Waylon |
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« Reply #27 on: August 10, 2011, 02:03:11 pm » |
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If anybody has a knot headed runt with low set ears uniform toenails rear dewclaws and never screams when picked up by the neck AND likes dippin snuff I'll buy him off of you. These are what we call once in a lifetime hunting dog...  |
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« Reply #28 on: August 10, 2011, 02:06:01 pm » |
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On picking pups a man told me once he would take all of the pups out of the dog house when they were to small to walk and kinda line them up side by side, He would then go hide and the first pup the mom picked and took back in the box was the one he would choose, he reasoning was that the gyp would pick up and care for the best pup out of survival instinct for her " pack " He believed in it 100% and swore it always worked. maybe it works, maybe not? but it is about as fool proof as any other method I've ever seen used. @ T-bob Waylon Using that logic, seems it would be safe to assume if he did it multiple times she would always pick up the same one first. Wonder if he ever tried it more than once, and what the outcome was. |
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« Reply #29 on: August 10, 2011, 02:30:55 pm » |
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Yeah I should have said so, he would do it a few times, he raised his own dogs so it was easy for him. He culled pups early based on his " theory ". I'm not sure I'd go that far but they were his dogs not mine :  |
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« Reply #30 on: August 10, 2011, 02:36:58 pm » |
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Yeah I should have said so, he would do it a few times, he raised his own dogs so it was easy for him. He culled pups early based on his " theory ". I'm not sure I'd go that far but they were his dogs not mine : I would venture to say he had exceptional dogs? |
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« Reply #31 on: August 10, 2011, 03:13:35 pm » |
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i had a hound cur cross out of decent dogs and had a pop knot, gave the dog plenty of time and chances but ultimately it did not make the cut? so some of these dont hold water in my opinion. but when an old timer speaks i do listen, but then i like to see results to really put alot of stock in it..
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« Reply #32 on: August 10, 2011, 03:34:26 pm » |
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i had a hound cur cross out of decent dogs and had a pop knot, gave the dog plenty of time and chances but ultimately it did not make the cut? so some of these dont hold water in my opinion. but when an old timer speaks i do listen, but then i like to see results to really put alot of stock in it..
X2. I also have had culls that possessed this feature. The only thing that still makes me linger around the folk lore is the amount of dogs I have seen that do turn out as rumored. On that aspect I guess I fall into Bryan's catagory of going with research and percentages. But regardless a very intriguing lil head scratcher. There are several other pieces of advice listed so far that are very fascinating as well. Let's here a few more. No peeing on dogs heads at dinner time please!!! Lmao  |
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« Reply #33 on: August 10, 2011, 05:22:33 pm » |
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My grandpa said to never yell at a dog or a woman because they can both hear better than you. You never hit or kick a dog or a woman because someday when you turn around they will rip you up.
If a horse bites you hit it real hard. If a dog bites you shoot it.
Only feed a dog that can go get its own food.
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« Reply #34 on: August 10, 2011, 06:17:54 pm » |
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Took a young feller to an old bear Hunter to pick up a plotts pup. That youngin walked around, and around and around scratching his head asking will this one ne gritty will this one have a cold nose and so on.
Old bear Hunter said somethin I never heard before, he said to pick the ones thats going to have the coldest noses, feel their feet. He said the ones with the coldest feet, will have the coldest noses. He also pointed out about the inside of the mouth, or roof of mouth being black, means grit.
All I know is hes got dang good pack of bear dogs.
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« Reply #35 on: August 10, 2011, 06:23:37 pm » |
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Well I was 20 years old once now 50 and I can tell ya you can learn more from a well experienced veteran dog man that you can ever learn out of a book . There may be new ways but all they are a old ways with big fancy handles now a days !
You cannot beat hands on eyes on experience !
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« Reply #36 on: August 10, 2011, 07:15:19 pm » |
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I'm sure some of the old remedies and such were out of necessity because there was no TSC's with a 50' aisle of lotions, pastes,and sprays for every ailment. I know my dad's family was big 13 kids and they lived dirt floor poor on the red river bottoms in Arkansaw they did what they had to with what they had.
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« Reply #37 on: August 10, 2011, 07:39:07 pm » |
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Good post. Some things passed on to me by my happy are..
Look at the eyes and you can see intelligence in a puppy.
Stick your hand in the box close your eyes and grab the first pup that you feel chances are just as good he makes a dog as any of them.
Mineral oil gets rid of ear mites.
Motor oil cures mange.
Females start later than males most times.
Genetics are the key to success but without hunting a dog genetics are worthless.
Always set the gun down 100 yards b4 you get to the truck.
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« Reply #38 on: August 10, 2011, 07:43:42 pm » |
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Here is a picture of my puppy's noggin, looks like he is going to be a smart dog....  Jerryg |
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« Reply #39 on: August 10, 2011, 09:03:52 pm » |
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" I would venture to say he had exceptional dogs? "
you would be correct about that sir, I worked him for 3 years for the gyp I know own, it took lot's of begging and crying and whining around to get her and IMO she is far above average and has proven to throw above average pups so far, lets hope the cross I made over her and my Abel dog doesn't change that or I probably won't ever get a chance at another one like her from him.
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