Old Mens advice Vs Young Mens reason.

[YELLOWBLACKMASK]

" I would venture to say he had exceptional dogs? "

you would be correct about that sir, I worked him for 3 years for the gyp I know own, it took lot's of begging and crying and whining around to get her and IMO she is far above average and has proven to throw above average pups so far, lets hope the cross I made over her and my Abel dog doesn't change that or I probably won't ever get a chance at another one like her from him.

That's actually a very curious little method. Might do some playing with the theory myself. Sounds worth while giving a good solid test run with.

[bayed hard hog dogs]

I have always heard that a hound or cur dog with long ears means thay have better nose but will bark on the track also.
 Burned motor oil used for hot spots and mange.
Block head dogs with short ears are rougher.
Runt most of the time makes the best dog.
Old coon hunters always say the prettiest hounds usually don't make coon dogs.
And my grandpaw always said you can lead a horse to water alot easier then you can whip him (meaning on being a boss and work with the hands not chew there azz all the time ) I have found most to work really well.

[mod93dirt]

I hope all the old timers are right. I've got a 5month old pop knot headed, double dew clawed pup that I hope makes a dog!! She was also the only brindle and bob tail out of the litter. Any old timer thoughts on that??

[brad s]

I hope their right also I got a 7mon old red blackmouth that was the runt and got pop knoted  head and he will already go with my grown dogs he went over 600yds the other day on a track with one of my grown dogs

[Oly]

It's not how long you have been doing it but what you have learned in that time!!!!

AMEN x2 ---and WHO you have surrounded yourself with.

[Oly]

Well I was 20 years old once now 50 and I can tell ya you can learn more from a well experienced veteran dog man that you can ever learn out of a book .  There may be new ways but all they are a old ways with big fancy handles now a days !

You cannot beat hands on eyes on experience !

x2--- sitting down with one of these ol-timers and shutting up and just listening to them and I do mean REALY listening to them will help and teach one a great deal.  For some reason when I read this post I thought about that story about the old-bull and the young-bull--- LOL

[Reuben]

It's not how long you have been doing it but what you have learned in that time!!!!

AMEN x2 ---and WHO you have surrounded yourself with.

x3...

and internet hog hunting like on ETHD's, can teach you in 2 years what could take 20 years to learn in the field.

[Oly]

It's not how long you have been doing it but what you have learned in that time!!!!

AMEN x2 ---and WHO you have surrounded yourself with.

x3...

and internet hog hunting like on ETHD's, can teach you in 2 years what could take 20 years to learn in the field.

LOL aint that the truth

[chainrated]

There is no doubt that you can learn a lot from listening to some old timers. I love listening to some of the stories they can tell, whether it's true or not, lol.. But like a buddy of mine says, what if the old man is just stupid?   
We all know some not so bright people and if they live long enough they will be not so bright old people..
I do take advice from some of those who are older and more experienced than me but I also like to figure things out for myself and draw my own conclusions.. I believe what I learn from personal experience..

[TShelly]

I recently got to meet and sit down with Mr. Lloyd Perry, a legendary dog men around the parts and the man responsible for the Black cur dog line we currently have dogs out of..

He said most hog hunters have this mental image of the perfect hog dog, most likely the best dog they have owned or had the pleasure of hunting behind.. and they are continuously trying to find "another" dog that is exactly the way "the one" was. But excluding twins, no two people are genetically the same and will never walk, act or live their lives exactly as another person. In applying this same principal to dogs, you will never have another dog exactly the same. So instead embrace the hog dog for the ability it does possess and attempt to get the most out of that ability

[Circle C]

There is no doubt that you can learn a lot from listening to some old timers. I love listening to some of the stories they can tell, whether it's true or not, lol.. But like a buddy of mine says, what if the old man is just stupid?   
We all know some not so bright people and if they live long enough they will be not so bright old people..
I do take advice from some of those who are older and more experienced than me but I also like to figure things out for myself and draw my own conclusions.. I believe what I learn from personal experience..

x2

[Reuben]

There is no doubt that you can learn a lot from listening to some old timers. I love listening to some of the stories they can tell, whether it's true or not, lol.. But like a buddy of mine says, what if the old man is just stupid?   
We all know some not so bright people and if they live long enough they will be not so bright old people..
I do take advice from some of those who are older and more experienced than me but I also like to figure things out for myself and draw my own conclusions.. I believe what I learn from personal experience..

x2

x3...and I always say never under estimate a kid and his hunting dogs...

[wilton]

I've heard of from ol' timers and used with success; burnt motor oil for many symptoms, and mineral oil for multiple uses, and grease for cuts/wounds, plus many more ol' time remedys which i'm a firm believer in. Since researching my family history that my grt. grt. grandmother second gen. cajun in La. was a healer back in the early 1800's using herbs/roots,etc. learned from the indians locally. Not only survied but saved many others thru 2 yellow fever epidemics.

[Reuben]

Wilton,

I had the pleasure of being around my gfather that was born in 1882 and he used those remedies you talk about.

I remember he would use cob webs and turpintine or white has on our wounds on our animals. Some called it lamp oil. Smelled like petroleum distillates to me.

About the only medicine he bought for himself or his livestck was a liquid in a square looking bottle called VOLCANIC OIL and that smelled like distillates also.

I like CUT HEAL for almost every type of cut on my dogs and it smells like distillates and fish oil... If it didn't smell so bad I would use it on me...

[AW]

I heard pick a pup that has 3 hairs growing from the mole under there chin, all dogs have them and he said the pups with 1 hair wont make as good of a dog. So look at your best dog and see if there may be some truth to this.

[Hog Dog Mike]

I am 67 and have owned alot more bird dogs (well over 200) than I have hog and squirrel dogs. Some of the guys I hunted with when I was a kid were old men then and long since dead. One guy used to take a buggy 16 miles, hunt quail all day, 16 miles back and then clean birds. They would tell me about the days when they did not have any vaccines and many a good dog died from destemper. Some of the things they told me and I have found them to be true.

A dog with dark spots inside their mouth have better noses than the ones that don't.

Mix a cup of tannic acid in a quart of pine tar --t as a coating for pads. Absolutely the best thing I have ever found.

A dog with dark pads has tougher feet than ones that light colored ones.

I don't like rat headed dogs.

Mix white vinegar, alcohol, and enough 7% Iodine to make it the color of stout tea and use it for ear mites.

A dog with a lower set tail on its hind end has more muscle and drive than a dog with the straight up poker tail.

Pick a dog with a tight foot not one that is sloppy an spread out.

If you can get a dog out of a proven repeat mating it would be good.

You cannot fool mother nature in your breeding program.

I still use terpentine, pine tar, and kerosene for cuts and such. I never use anything on my dogs that I won't use on me.

My daddy got snake bit in 1907 by a copperhead at about 5:00 in the evening. All they did is put coal oil (kerosene or no 1 diesel) on it because the doctor did not get there until after 9:00 that night. That is all they had. His hand, arm, and entire left side of his body swelled up (he was 5 at the time) and the doctor really could not and did not do anything. He finally got OK.

[GOTBOAR]

There is no substitute fer experience.

[DubbleRDawgs]

 old timer told me that when my dog got bite by a copperhead that his front leg was swollen the softball to give him a quart of milk and cup of bacon grease now and again in 2 hrs for the swelling and poison ..4 hrs later all the swelling was gone.. dont know why he didnt saywhy it worked but it did ...

[Hog Dog Mike]

Just because some guys have been doing it a long time don't necessarily mean that they know jack about dogs. Seen lots of guys older than me that had been around them all their life and still did not know anything.

I used to hunt all the time with this guy alot older than me. His dogs never were very good and were gettin old. I gave him a male out of some good breeding and several dogs in the litter made good dogs. However, this was not one of them. I told him that just because I gave him the dog did not mean that he had to keep him until he went on old age pension. The dog was worthless.

I came across a great little female that was a sure enough dog and would have been perfect for him. I green broke her and all she needed was hunting. What does he do? Gives her to a guy that works for him and she gets run over. The dog he kept was not even on that same planet with the dog he got rid of.

Then I gave him a real good setter pup out of a outstanding proven breeding. What does he do. Names her Hillary--this was Clinton was in office. Words could not describe how bad this chapped my behind. I swore then he would never get a dog from my kennel period.

[Reuben]

I am 67 and have owned alot more bird dogs (well over 200) than I have hog and squirrel dogs. Some of the guys I hunted with when I was a kid were old men then and long since dead. One guy used to take a buggy 16 miles, hunt quail all day, 16 miles back and then clean birds. They would tell me about the days when they did not have any vaccines and many a good dog died from destemper. Some of the things they told me and I have found them to be true.

A dog with dark spots inside their mouth have better noses than the ones that don't.

Mix a cup of tannic acid in a quart of pine tar --t as a coating for pads. Absolutely the best thing I have ever found.

A dog with dark pads has tougher feet than ones that light colored ones.

I don't like rat headed dogs.

Mix white vinegar, alcohol, and enough 7% Iodine to make it the color of stout tea and use it for ear mites.

A dog with a lower set tail on its hind end has more muscle and drive than a dog with the straight up poker tail.

Pick a dog with a tight foot not one that is sloppy an spread out.

If you can get a dog out of a proven repeat mating it would be good.

You cannot fool mother nature in your breeding program.

I still use terpentine, pine tar, and kerosene for cuts and such. I never use anything on my dogs that I won't use on me.

My daddy got snake bit in 1907 by a copperhead at about 5:00 in the evening. All they did is put coal oil (kerosene or no 1 diesel) on it because the doctor did not get there until after 9:00 that night. That is all they had. His hand, arm, and entire left side of his body swelled up (he was 5 at the time) and the doctor really could not and did not do anything. He finally got OK.

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