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Question: Do you immediatly cull or attempt to salvage the no go Hogdogs?
I completely cull - 17 (38.6%)
I attempt to utilize as Cowdog before culling - 13 (29.5%)
I prefer dog to bay both - 6 (13.6%)
I prefer Cowdog culls to train as Hogdogs - 8 (18.2%)
Total Voters: 44

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« Reply #40 on: August 11, 2011, 04:19:58 pm »

The only time im not honest is about fishing  Grin Other then that I know what my dogs will and wont do. There not the best in any means but they suit me and find hogs.
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« Reply #41 on: August 11, 2011, 04:22:37 pm »

I prefer a dog with a lot of hunt and right now I currently own 3 full blooded Catahoulas. Two came from LA and the other from a ranch in S FL.  All of them will find and bay hogs, cattle, they will tree coons or possums, they would probly run a bear if I put them on it  Grin I consider them trash broke because when I go to hunt hogs they know were hunting hogs. If I take them to cattle they know were herding cattle. I expect them to be gamey hunting dogs with the want to hunt WHATEVER I PUT THEM ON. I hunt places with cows and hogs and they know when that Garmin is around there neck were lookin for POPPA HOG!!!!  Wink



Matt, i'm your buddy, but I've got to call BS on this. Your two catahoulas from louisiana haven't found and bayed a hog on their own and you haven't owned Skeeter for more than 6 months. Have you caught a hog with only your dogs on the ground yet?

John you gotta start hunting with me more buddy, You cant expect to come hunt twice a year and expect to know what my dogs will and wont do.  Yes I have found and bayed a hog a few times with only Bubba on the ground I cant give you names of ppl that are there. The gyp isint far behind if the conditions are right. I havent owned Skeeter long but have hunted with him several years when my buddy owned him and the guy before that. I know what he will and wont do. All 3 dogs have bayed cattle, not going and finding just herding and grouping.

Just quit coming off like an expert, you ain't been doing this long....
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« Reply #42 on: August 11, 2011, 04:30:35 pm »

John why you even on here???  you sold all your dogs to become a Cowboy. I hunt at LEAST 3 times a week, year round. I have a 10,000 acre lease and 6 dogs if I wanna throw my opinion around with these Tx boys, im gonna. Im no expert by any means. Just a guy with an opinion.
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« Reply #43 on: August 11, 2011, 04:41:01 pm »

Lets go to the woods then, just me and you... no other dogs but yours.

You leg it, flip it, tie it, cut it if its a boar hog, and let it go (By your self)

I'll get the dogs off
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« Reply #44 on: August 11, 2011, 04:47:53 pm »

BUDDDDY!!!!!! How many times have I hit you up to come hunt?Huh??? your always moanin about gas. I got find dogs and a CD bring your HUGE roll of mule tape and let's do it! you know I dont hunt alone. You havent even seen my new woods truck!  Grin
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« Reply #45 on: August 11, 2011, 04:50:36 pm »

Call me lets do it
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« Reply #46 on: August 11, 2011, 04:51:48 pm »

Sorry about getting off topic on the thread...... Business needed taking care of Grin
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« Reply #47 on: August 11, 2011, 05:05:02 pm »

Lets go to the woods then, just me and you... no other dogs but yours.

You leg it, flip it, tie it, cut it if its a boar hog, and let it go (By your self)

I'll get the dogs off

You act like this doesnt happen? you hunt with a few people I do just ask around if you dont believe man. You know Tyler messed his hand up BAD and we hunt at least twice a week. Who do you think hobbles and releases the hog? Who do you think cuts the hog? Like I said I hunt 2 to 3 times a week ALWAYS year round. Rain, sleet or snow, with sumone either at my place or there's I dont need to get into a pissing match. I havnt sold my pack and gotten out then gotten back in I consistently have dogs and hunt.
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« Reply #48 on: August 11, 2011, 05:40:29 pm »

" waylon when u get tired of them bm curs call me and ill set u up with some good hounds.lmao "

Russle I don't see me getting tired of them, You and I both know that the best yellers are all north of the Red River  Wink and just ask around everyone thinks mine are part hound anyway   Cheesy
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« Reply #49 on: August 11, 2011, 06:20:16 pm »

m, You and I both know that the best yellers are all north of the Red River  

Oooooo. Low blow. LMAO laugh

Are you talking bout cowdogs or hogdogs cause Okies can't have em both. 
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« Reply #50 on: August 11, 2011, 06:27:17 pm »

" Are you talking bout cowdogs or hogdogs cause Okies can't have em both.  "

That seems to be the general consensus YELLOWBLACKMASK , We both know them ol yeller dogs are only capable of a few limited chores anyway  Wink But as everyone knows Texas may have invented the BMC but Oklahoma perfected them  Grin
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« Reply #51 on: August 11, 2011, 06:54:19 pm »

" Are you talking bout cowdogs or hogdogs cause Okies can't have em both.  "

That seems to be the general consensus YELLOWBLACKMASK , We both know them ol yeller dogs are only capable of a few limited chores anyway  Wink But as everyone knows Texas may have invented the BMC but Oklahoma perfected them  Grin

Your sounding like Bayedhardhogdogs now.

Okies are kinda like rats on a cheeto.

They didn't open the bag but they will dang sure try to finish em off for ya.  laugh
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« Reply #52 on: August 11, 2011, 07:08:22 pm »

Okies are kinda like rats on a cheeto.

They didn't open the bag but they will dang sure try to finish em off for ya.


 Cheesy Now that's funny
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« Reply #53 on: August 11, 2011, 10:18:11 pm »

What I first start them on depends on if I need cow dogs or if I need hog dogs at that time.  They will eventually let me know what they like best.  When I'm in a bind the whole kennel turns into cow dogs.  Bull dogs included.  YBM can testify to that.

*FYI Bull dogs usually will work both cows and hogs.
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« Reply #54 on: August 12, 2011, 12:23:53 am »

" Are you talking bout cowdogs or hogdogs cause Okies can't have em both.  "

That seems to be the general consensus YELLOWBLACKMASK , We both know them ol yeller dogs are only capable of a few limited chores anyway  Wink But as everyone knows Texas may have invented the BMC but Oklahoma perfected them  Grin

Your sounding like Bayedhardhogdogs now.

Okies are kinda like rats on a cheeto.

They didn't open the bag but they will dang sure try to finish em off for ya.  laugh
Boy,boy Myles look what you have started now lol, I love threads like this we keep this up mikes gonna lock us down lol now let's get on something else, Like CAT'S SUCK AND BMC RULE  Cheesy Grin
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« Reply #55 on: August 12, 2011, 12:33:10 am »

bayed hard hog dogs- Thanks I was starting to think I was a one legged man in but kicking contest  Grin

I don't think I have the type of dog I am talking about  YET, but I know I am close enough with my dogs to make it happen one day, It don't bother me if other folks think it can't be done or that it is out of reach. If that type of dog as easy to find we wouldn't be talking about it right now, I ain't scared to cull, ain't scared of hard work and am not blind to my dogs faults. But that type of " Old Yeller " dog is what I'm after, it's my goal and I won't be knocked off course by discouragement.

I know an old man from right here in Oklahoma who told me he once started 3 litters of pup's all born around the same time from one male and 3 different gyps, there were near 30 pups at the beginning of the summer, by a year old he had culled all but 4, by 2 years old he had 3 left. He said " you are gonna have to leave your heart in the house and keep a sharp axe if your gonna raise good head dogs "

I respect all opinions expressed here and am not arguing with any one or there way of doing things, but I believe if your gonna have dogs that are better than the next man's then your gonna have to cull harder, work harder, hunt more and spend more time with your dogs than the next guy will. Oh and pray for a lot of guidance cause I'm to dumb to do it on my own  angel
[/quote Not a problem waylon a mans got to stick with what he believe's in or he ain't a man at all in my books you keep culling and breeding the best of best and you will get the dogs you are longing for. But if your like me and a few others the best dog is never good enough.
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« Reply #56 on: August 12, 2011, 12:40:02 am »

LOL ....Can't let that Yellers are better north of the Red go unchecked!! 

If this kind of blasphemy continues I am gonna personally mail a box of pine cones wrapped in Yeller dog hair to all non believers.   laugh
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« Reply #57 on: August 12, 2011, 07:35:19 am »


  All of them will find and bay hogs, cattle, they will tree coons or possums, they would probly run a bear if I put them on it  Grin I consider them trash broke because when I go to hunt hogs they know were hunting hogs.


-No I dont put them on a possum track or a coon track purposely 

 Huh?  Huh?    So how can you consider them trash broke if they tree coons and possums when thats not what you purposely put them on??? 

Your post are like the Starburst commercials, a big contradiction...  Grin
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« Reply #58 on: August 12, 2011, 08:46:16 am »

Just wondering if a lot of so called hog dog culls would have been better hog dogs if they had been hunted on squirrels in the day time and worked on cattle as well only in day time??  seen and owned lots of curs who knew the difference when hunting hogs at nite, the dogs knew because we hunted so much more and lived on the ranch back them that had squirrels and coons to be hunted at night and ocassionally helped with running steers up for a 1 time a month chute check for health and maybe meds or something, these dogs knew not to bay cattle at night, they knew that when we left the kennel with a 22 and mule and went to the squirel bottom we were hunting squirrels, but while hunting 1 or 2 on squirrels with a 22 walking if a hog jumped up or bayed up we shot it and then went back to squirrel hunting again, sometimes it ended it cuase had to take hog to cooler  I still figured it depends on who is hunting the cur n the first place, I seen so many people depend on the same strike dog over and over never break up the pecking order in his hunting dog pack, the new tryeee dogs never get starting postion and wait on the old strike dog to open vs the new tryee being put n front of the truck with the old dogs n the box or held back with leads, the dog tryee never learns you are depending on him to strike and range out and holds back mentally, then he get the cull tag because the owner does not juggle up the batting order and puts the for sale classifieds add on here, somebody else with tons of hogs or no strike dog buys the so called hog dog cull and it becomes depended upon and encouraged and guess what, he mite also hunt it on climbing game as well occassionally work steers or cows 1 time a month, the cull learns that when his master is horseback and turns him loose at the cattle pens and says get the cow yellar hunt em up he knows the difference, down here so many fewer cow ranches left they have all gone to deer fencing and no cattle, the hired hands dont have permssion to hunt with dogs on the place becase they are day workers too and with the drought way fewer jobs if any to work dogs on cows, I think the extra to my hog dog pack might be a better label, but i rather buy a extra from a hog hunting pack than a cow dog line and last a blood trailing line just do the amount to work available to the dog, blood trailing is only deer season, so how could u ever really claim u have a tracking line anyway??  Hog and cow cur lines need tree dog hunting as well blood trailing deer, but not all people will or want to hunt them r work them on everyhting and change up the batting position either or really dont hunt enuff or have good country for cross training and lots of reps on all game, how many cur doggers have dogs that find wounded game no matter what it is if placed on it and sicced up??lol  I want to keep all of the curs and never have a cull
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« Reply #59 on: August 12, 2011, 09:58:33 am »


  All of them will find and bay hogs, cattle, they will tree coons or possums, they would probly run a bear if I put them on it  Grin I consider them trash broke because when I go to hunt hogs they know were hunting hogs.


-No I dont put them on a possum track or a coon track purposely 


 Huh?  Huh?    So how can you consider them trash broke if they tree coons and possums when thats not what you purposely put them on??? 

Your post are like the Starburst commercials, a big contradiction...  Grin


Well while your watching Starburst commercials little guy im out hunting my trashy dogs. Im not gonna lie and say my dogs are completly trash broke. I like to think they are but if a deer runs right in front of them they will chase it a bit. If were not hog hunting and Im letting them run around they will chase a possum or coon if its in my yard.

What about your dogs? I never hear you talk about them? Saw your FB you look like Opie Taylor off Andy Griffith NO hog pics, NO dog pics. What are you one of these internet Cowboys little Trent.Huh?

Another thing I saw you talking about Randy Wright's dogs on the last page, have you had one and culled it? Have you tried several and they didnt work? please let me know your opinion on his dogs since your the expert. I personally know Randy and talk to him once in awhile. I know he breeds for $$$$ but he also has a few good dogs.
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