DOGO questions

[justincorbell]

Can anyone fill me in on these dogs a little bit, i know there have been tons of posts on here in the past but i never cared to read em because the dogs were never in my price range, well long story short a guy came to me this morning at work and offered a grown male to me because his buddy has to get rid of it and i said "hell yea ill take him" anyway can you fill me in on aggressiveness towards other dogs, are they straight catch or runnin catch? do they get out and hunt? I know nothing about these dogs except that they look like overgrown pitts and ive heard they catch hard. fill me in

[Noah]

I've only been around one, a 4yo male I was given that was completely unsocialized, had never seen a hog... best free dog I ever got 

In my opinion... if you aren't truly dog savvy, you don't need to be messing with a big dog like this... smaller dogs you can manhandle and get away with it... this dog I've got could reeeeaaally hurt you if he wanted to... took me a few wks of intense handling to get him to come around...

Dog aggressive? As much as any other dog I've seen, varies from animal to animal... Proper training helps control this...

Catch style? Some do, some don't... one way to find out... just make sure you got some handle on him before turnin' him on... Mine catches by the top of the skull every time, as good as it gets.

Hunt? If I let mine, I know he would... but I don't want my catch dogs to hunt... if they miss a catch, I want to be able to get my hands back on them so they don't roll out and end up catchin' a mile away... get dogs hurt bad like that...  He's got a hell of a good nose... but there again... you better have a hell of a handle and make damn sure he's trash broke... no fun tryin' to pull a dog that size off a pissed off bull... 

Again, this is just my opinion on a whole breed based on the ONE dog I have to go by... so take this accordingly...

He is, to me, a giant cur dog, a "rough" cur dog obviously... but that's the type of curdogs I hunt so I see the similarity... way more similar than say a pit or bulldog... Just as my curdogs will catch a hog they know they can handle by themselves, so does he... Just so happens that he weighs better than a hundred pounds though... so what "he" considers a reasonable hog to try verses my cur dogs is a bit different!   

He is WAY more intelligent than a bulldog, he TURNS OFF when I tell him to... VERY nice with a dog that big...

Just be very, very, careful... you dealin' with a lot of horsepower...

[justincorbell]

thanks for the info, this dog has been socialized and from what i understand is trained decent, ive owned pitbulls and bulldogs for a while and ive trained quite a few dogs for upland and waterfowl hunting as well as hog hunting and catching, i think we will get along just fine. and u make a good point about not wanting to run the dog due to catching long range and gettin hurt. appreciate it

[t.wilbanks]

He is, to me, a giant cur dog, a "rough" cur dog obviously... but that's the type of curdogs I hunt so I see the similarity... way more similar than say a pit or bulldog... Just as my curdogs will catch a hog they know they can handle by themselves, so does he... Just so happens that he weighs better than a hundred pounds though... so what "he" considers a reasonable hog to try verses my cur dogs is a bit different!   

Noah, just curious as to what he does on a real big hog?

[BOBDOG]

Hey Noah, have you considered crossing him on your curs anymore?

[Noah]

One hog in particular stands out, a good boar Shine bayed up by herself... a half dozen of us walked up on the bay and the boar was backed into a little bunch of brush darin' a dog to come in... Shine was backed off about 10' givin' this dude PLENTY of room...   

..  got to within' about 20yds and cut Bucho to him head on, nothin' but a cut collar on... he accelerates all the way to the hit, every time...

... as he came in on this hog, the boar coiled up and tried to hook him at the last second, Bucho is so tall he just went right over and to the side... catchin' the boar perfect by the top of the skull... they helicoptered real good a few times, the whole time the boar tryin' to get turned on him to try and get his hooks into the dog..

Bucho just spun with him, body tight along the boars side... genetic holding style 100% right there...

Once he gets his feet planted, not many hogs can do much.... he's just a strong sucker... seems he's gettin' stronger and faster every hog he catches too...

Hey Noah, have you considered crossing him on your curs anymore?

Shine's in heat as we speak... VERY tempting I tell you... would make one hell of an athletic catch dog I promise you    Another litter of dogs is the last thing I need right now though... I just need to focus on what I got right now!

[Silverton Boar Dogs]

A Dogo should "hunt" like a cur dog and catch like any other bull dog. No bark straight catch on any size hog.

Some have a lot of hunt and some don't. I have one that will hunt out 1000 yrds or more and I have had one that would not get out of you light.

Dog aggression can be found in some lines.

[justincorbell]

silverton, I kinda figgured that there would be some aggression issues, in my opinion in most bulldog breeds there will be a certain level of aggression simply based on the dogs genetics.

Noah, and anyone that has info, in your opinions what would be a good cross with a dogo, Id like to cross him with a couple bay dogs depending on how he shows out in my pen, i had a pretty good pack awhile back but out of state work forced me to sell out for awhile, i am getting back into doggin now that i am working back at home, i recently purchased a house with enough land to do things right a have a decent bay pen and build good solid kennels..........anyway what im trying to say is I will be building my pack back up shortly and would like ya'lls opinions on what type/breed gyps yall would suggest to breed him to

[Noah]

Doug Mason seems to have perty good luck with his Catdos... I have considered(still considering) trying it with my rough cur dogs... but the Dogo size sure is nice sometimes and I'd hate to lose any...

Depends on how you wanna hunt I guess...

If I ever get a couple good Dogos at a young age, I'd like to try raising them up to actually hunt... 

[Noah]

Here's the boar I was talkin' about earlier... he was RANK... until this hog, I was wondering what Bucho was gonna do with a bad one myself... (note Bucho's favorite "grip" on a hog  )


This was another full grown BAD dude that Bucho had to handle solo... cut both my curs bad... before turning to charge us in head high sawgrass... Bucho saved our asses on this hunt... would not have wanted ANY other catch dog in that final moment...


With my cur dogs, it's rare that a catch dog get's to hit first... they usually sense the CD comin' in and grab aholt... Bucho get's used alot to help anchor which has helped prevent countless injuries by controlling a hog from "slinging" dogs... that's worth it's weight in gold to me 

[Noah]

Just a good pic of ol' Bucho... I'd like to see a bit deeper chest... and better muscling in the rear end... but overall he's built very well.. built to take a lickin' I can guarantee... the bone in his legs is as thick as a fence post

[make-em-squeel]

As far as your crossed up with a cur question I am sure you will find good and bad but I am hunting with a half dogo and half lacy yr old male and he is making a decent hand. Real fast and gritty typically catches with a 2nd dog, would have been straight catch if hunted on a lead but learned to bay real tight in this heat.

When you get the correct line of proven health and catching traits the Dogo is an outstanding CD. I own one that no one in their right mind would cull. They have great endurance as well. May not be worth the cost to some but to each his own.

[make-em-squeel]

If I were feeding/hunting a crossed up "outlaw cur" style of dogs I would use a bird/bull. Suprised I never hear of any around here much??

[NMartin]

I think a GSP / Dogo mix would be a really nice mix.

Where are you guys getting your Dogo's at?  I really want one, but sadly I am at least a year out from getting one.

[altabonita]

Noah,

Your dogo looks impressive.

[Noah]

Where are you guys getting your Dogo's at?  I really want one, but sadly I am at least a year out from getting one.

I would start with known breeders, Marvin, aka LaDogos on here seems to produce some good dogs... La Historia Dogos helped me get the Dogo I have, although it's not one he bred, he says his blood is similar. 

It is interesting how few Dogo breeders actually hunt their dogs from what I have seen... throwing a dog in a pen with a hog doesn't tell you much...

Off the top of my head that's about all I can think of... if funds were not a thought... I'd like to go down to Argentina and spend some time working cattle, huntin', and just plain gettin' to know some gauchos down that a way...   those that use any dog for work usually have the best tools for the job...

[Silverton Boar Dogs]

Where are you guys getting your Dogo's at?  I really want one, but sadly I am at least a year out from getting one.

LA Dogos, Marvin has the best proven dogs I know of.

[TColt]

LA Dogos is one of the only breeders in America that I would buy from. Others out of US would be either PPC dogos or some down in argentina. Very few American breeders hunt their dogos. La Historia is from New York, and although he may hunt his dogs SOME, I dont think that he has a real proven line of working dogs, unless there is a hog problem in the big apple that im not aware of. He does have some beautiful dogs though! Its just more of a gamble when getting a dog from a breeder like this if you plan to hunt it. Has just as good of chance of catching as not catching, and the chances of that dog actually hunting are even slimmer, and thats a big gamble when you pay that kinda money for a dog.

I just got a pup a few months back from Marvin at LA Dogos. Showed him a hog when he was four months old and he caught it. Dogos sometimes take a little longer to turn on than bull dogs so I think that really says something about his breeding. The whole litter my pup was from had full hearing, so that says something else about his breeding.... Its good!

Good luck with the one you got! I hope she is a good one!

[NMartin]

About how much would it cost to import them from Argentina?

Is there any registry for them in the US?

[TColt]

AKC,UKC,DACA, then there is the one from Puerto Rico (dont remember what it is called). I dont know much about all that stuff but I believe those are the registries