Find Dogs

[bigo]

You don't see the term used much these days, but in years past was a prized possesion. In the open range days, you had to find the stock before you could gather them and a top find dog would save alot of looking. I have looked at lots of dogs on peoples yards over the years and the ones they would stop in front of and brag on the most, were always find dogs. These days people confuse range with find. A top find dog will find in front of, behind, and to the side of most long range dogs these days.

[GOTBOAR]

Finally someone with some sense. Too many people judge a dogs character on how far he will hunt. Honeslty if i kick my dogs out and they dont wanna hunt like a think ill pack up and move out. Cause 9 of 10 times there aint number 2 there.

[BIG BEN]

  I agree with ya on this one BigO, Im still kinda confused on how someone can put a "range" title on their dogs. Whos to say that a "LONG" range dog has more hunt than a "short" range dog. Maybe that long range dog is running like a fool in a straight line away from the owner until he comes across a track warm enough to run and it just so happens to be 1,000 yards away when the dog strikes. Then you have a dog that doesnt get out that far but covers 10 times more ground than that "Long" range dog, Thats the dog that I want.

[skunkhounds]

you sure said that right

[Critter Catcher]

I think your exactly right, there are a many people that believe just because there dogs range out they're looking for a hog. I have seen first hand where my close to medium range "find dog" will hit track while other dogs ran right pass sign to get out and range. Now with that said there are places or pieces of land where you need a rangey dog because hogs are few and far between. My places have pretty good sign and numerous hogs. In my opinion a good "find dog" or "strike dog" will not flat open up and ran but works his/her way out if sign ain't close by..JMO..I walk hunt most of the time so I don't want a 2 mile dog.

[Dirtydog]

That is why my jagds work so well for me. They cover every inch of the woods... May not go to far but sure cover some area.

[Critter Catcher]

That is why my jagds work so well for me. They cover every inch of the woods... May not go to far but sure cover some area.

Hey dirtydog how do those jagds do in this heat, they peak my interest...those little suckers have energy to spare..

[Mike]

I'll agree 100% that a find dog is a prize possession.

But, I'll take a medium to long range dog that FINDS hogs any day over a short range one... they come in handy when hogs are scarce.

Any dog will shine when hogs are plentiful on a property.

[Critter Catcher]

I'll agree 100% that a find dog is a prize possession.

But, I'll take a medium to long range dog that FINDS hogs any day over a short range one... they come in handy when hogs are scarce.

Any dog will shine when hogs are plentiful on a property.

maybe they're running past'em  

[Mike]

maybe they're running past'em  

Nope.

[Bryant]

...These days people confuse range with find....

More than that, I think they confuse good with not so good.

There should be no difference in how a rangy dog and a shorter range dog locates hogs that are near.  A long range hunting dog that misses hogs as he/she goes through the woods is just a poor dog...that's all.

The only difference is a rangy dog will keep rolling out when dropped where sign is not.  In my opinion, a rangy dog is an independant dog.  The latter is my desired quality.  Range isn't necessarily my intent as much as a dog that will leave and do it on their own.  When I open the box, I want to see nothing but tails for a second...then I don't care to see them again.  A good way I've found to evaluate the independance of young pups is to drop them out alone and see how they roll.  The ones that consistantly leave without looking back, are always my top picks.

[Critter Catcher]

...These days people confuse range with find....

More than that, I think they confuse good with not so good.

There should be no difference in how a rangy dog and a shorter range dog locates hogs that are near.  A long range hunting dog that misses hogs as he/she goes through the woods is just a poor dog...that's all..

this is true..I do understand the need for a rangy dog for lets say grain runners or if you're on a LARGE place like some have but most guys including myself have smaller places (500 to 1000 acs.) it becomes a problem hunting your dogs down in somebody's back yard or another place. Now when I say madium range that might be anywhere from 100 yds to 600 yds, I don't count bottom as range and I believe some do.

[skunkhounds]

how do ya know they aint passing them up have you put some good short to med range dogs on the ground behind them to see if they are running past the hogs just to get gone 

[Bryant]

how do ya know they aint passing them up have you put some good short to med range dogs on the ground behind them to see if they are running past the hogs just to get gone 

A dog that leaves just to get gone is also a poor dog.  I suppose it's just called having faith in and knowing your dogs.

[skunkhounds]

thats a fact but i have seen it more then once in the years i been hog hunting . have a long range dog bayed up and catch 2  hogs on the way to the bay with short range dogs that the long range dog passed right up

[t.wilbanks]

thats a fact but i have seen it more then once in the years i been hog hunting . have a long range dog bayed up and catch 2  hogs on the way to the bay with short range dogs that the long range dog passed right up

Well it could have been that the long range dog struck a group and a couple split and just ran the wrong way ( straight towards you ) 

Due to the size of most of our places, i prefer a short/medium range dog.... 300 yards is plenty for me as long as the dog stays busy and hunts hard
....
But if i hunted some bigger places like many on here do, i would prefer a longer ranged dog...   

[T-Bob Parker]

You don't KNOW that your long dogs passed them, they may have split  and doubled back.

Critter, you just wait, six months from now them red pups of your and my ol Red will be sporting radio collars while we hunt towards them with the straight curs id bet

[t.wilbanks]

You don't KNOW that your long dogs passed them, they may have split  and doubled back.

I pretty much already said that T-girl.... gosh , cant you read!!!!   

[Critter Catcher]

You don't KNOW that your long dogs passed them, they may have split  and doubled back.

Critter, you just wait, six months from now them red pups of your and my ol Red will be sporting radio collars while we hunt towards them with the straight curs id bet

No doubt at all we will have a total package soon..just for the record I wasn't referring to your RED..I saw him strike the first night..20 to 30 head
I do have to admit I got a couple pups that I can already tell will be REAL rangy because I liked T-bob's RED and the way he got gone..

I'm referring more to some of the guys who have to find their dogs 1.5 miles and no hogs to count..come on if your dog hasn't found a hog in the distance then buy a shorter range STRIKE/FIND dog because that dog or dogs just ain't doing it.

[skunkhounds]

ok well how about this when you dump the dogs and the long range dogs hit the woods smoken and are gone half a mile and you short range dogs bay up right there in front of ya  them long range dogs passed that one up