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« on: August 22, 2011, 07:31:40 pm »

I heard on the radio this morning the FBI was doing a nation wide manhunt for an ex marine from Stevens county Oklahoma by the name of Charles Dyer. They went to looking for him in Florida and then quickly on to Texas. Last I heard they were zoned in on a lil house in Sealy TX. Anybody know any more details? They said he is on alot of websites and is anti govt. I gotta admit I been watching his yuotube channel and reading about him all day

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« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2011, 08:49:48 pm »

 hey t-bob, my last name is mann. i will do the right thing. if im armed, i will disarm when i run outa bullets in 1 gun and pick another 1 up. the feds are trying to stop, and shut up any1 that they deem a threat to their goals of screwing our country up even more. according to soe of these patriot act laws, if a u.s. citizen is arrested, and may or not be charged with a crime, the gov. can transport you to another part of the world to their so called interogations and keep you locked up and ignore your constitutional rights, maily the 6th amendment, the right to a fare and speedy trail, the right to face your accuser, and the right have legal counsel present, but they diprive you of those rights, on the basis of being a domestic terrorist, when all you want is these poloticians to STOP screwing our country up and exercising your constitutional rights. they arrest and detain americans, but yet let illegals roam america free and give them more liberties than citizens and even pay for their bills on our dime, classify you a terrorist and not heard from for many yrs after being detain against all civil, and constitutional rights. our government is scared of an uprsing and they try to head if off before americans can get the real truth and let the government run media to slander the guys/gals exercising their constitutional rights. where is the fareness in that?Huh???
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« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2011, 10:10:16 pm »

He is wanted for alleged child molestation .....if he truly is a molester I hope they smoke his ass.

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« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2011, 10:47:15 pm »

I agree in practice Bryant. I like to see perps apprehended for the purpose of making them stand and face the lives they destroyed, that being said, he is also being called a domestic terrorist and the child molestation charge from what I read was from several years ago, it makes you wonder, how many child molesters do the FBI go wall to wall over on a nation wide scale? The truth may be a bit more shady as he supposedly stole RPG's and some sites also claim anti aircraft guns.
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« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2011, 03:24:00 am »

Give an example Charles, please.  You always seem to come up with some off the wall bulls**t. 
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« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2011, 06:42:29 am »

hey t-bob, my last name is mann. i will do the right thing. if im armed, i will disarm when i run outa bullets in 1 gun and pick another 1 up. the feds are trying to stop, and shut up any1 that they deem a threat to their goals of screwing our country up even more. according to soe of these patriot act laws, if a u.s. citizen is arrested, and may or not be charged with a crime, the gov. can transport you to another part of the world to their so called interogations and keep you locked up and ignore your constitutional rights, maily the 6th amendment, the right to a fare and speedy trail, the right to face your accuser, and the right have legal counsel present, but they diprive you of those rights, on the basis of being a domestic terrorist, when all you want is these poloticians to STOP screwing our country up and exercising your constitutional rights. they arrest and detain americans, but yet let illegals roam america free and give them more liberties than citizens and even pay for their bills on our dime, classify you a terrorist and not heard from for many yrs after being detain against all civil, and constitutional rights. our government is scared of an uprsing and they try to head if off before americans can get the real truth and let the government run media to slander the guys/gals exercising their constitutional rights. where is the fareness in that?Huh???

The oath that I took was to protect this country from terrorist, both foreign and DOMESTIC. People talking crazy talk like this is the reason we have to fight daily to maintain our rights to keep and bear arms. I love this country, I know what shape this country is in, but its not the "countrys" fault for it being in this shape. I dont believe having a shoot out with law enforcement, on any level, is gonna solve anything. pull something like that and all you gonna get is dead. i guarantee they have bigger and better weapons than you, not to mention more of them. its a proven fact that non-violence talk and protest get better results than violent ones. who is gonna listen to the guy that just shot a federal officer or two. NOBODY, thats who. I have dealt with threat makers many times in the past. not saying that you would, but 99% of them coward down when looking down the barrel of an m-4 or 12. that other one percent end up meeting their maker. I dont think that a public forum that anyone, including the FBI, CIA, or Dept of homeland Security, has access to is the place to voice your threats. you never know who is a federal police officer on here. JMO 
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« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2011, 07:37:52 am »

hey t-bob, my last name is mann. i will do the right thing. if im armed, i will disarm when i run outa bullets in 1 gun and pick another 1 up. the feds are trying to stop, and shut up any1 that they deem a threat to their goals of screwing our country up even more. according to soe of these patriot act laws, if a u.s. citizen is arrested, and may or not be charged with a crime, the gov. can transport you to another part of the world to their so called interogations and keep you locked up and ignore your constitutional rights, maily the 6th amendment, the right to a fare and speedy trail, the right to face your accuser, and the right have legal counsel present, but they diprive you of those rights, on the basis of being a domestic terrorist, when all you want is these poloticians to STOP screwing our country up and exercising your constitutional rights. they arrest and detain americans, but yet let illegals roam america free and give them more liberties than citizens and even pay for their bills on our dime, classify you a terrorist and not heard from for many yrs after being detain against all civil, and constitutional rights. our government is scared of an uprsing and they try to head if off before americans can get the real truth and let the government run media to slander the guys/gals exercising their constitutional rights. where is the fareness in that?Huh???

The oath that I took was to protect this country from terrorist, both foreign and DOMESTIC. People talking crazy talk like this is the reason we have to fight daily to maintain our rights to keep and bear arms. I love this country, I know what shape this country is in, but its not the "countrys" fault for it being in this shape. I dont believe having a shoot out with law enforcement, on any level, is gonna solve anything. pull something like that and all you gonna get is dead. i guarantee they have bigger and better weapons than you, not to mention more of them. its a proven fact that non-violence talk and protest get better results than violent ones. who is gonna listen to the guy that just shot a federal officer or two. NOBODY, thats who. I have dealt with threat makers many times in the past. not saying that you would, but 99% of them coward down when looking down the barrel of an m-4 or 12. that other one percent end up meeting their maker. I dont think that a public forum that anyone, including the FBI, CIA, or Dept of homeland Security, has access to is the place to voice your threats. you never know who is a federal police officer on here. JMO 
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« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2011, 07:38:05 am »

I agree something has to happen but if someone tried to organize even a peaceful protest they would be under such scrutiny that they would find something to put him up for.  As bad as people don't want to admit charles has a point.  I'm not saying take arms against the nation but something has to give one way or another. We as a people have become so dependent on tv etc that the government has a direct venue to the peoples fears and they thrive off of it.
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« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2011, 07:42:49 am »

well said Baily...
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« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2011, 08:51:38 am »

 baileythank you for being a leo and serving the citizens of your area. a public forum is the place to have these kinda discussions, so the feds can see where people are getting tired of the way they are running this country. i do my very best in obeying the law. I have a deep respect for the leo's, they have a dangerous job to do as did i when i served in the military, and as do all the current soldiers. they have to uphold the law, yes, but can you honestly tell me that when an agency, ie: city, county, state or federal are sent out on a nation wide man hunt, in this case topic discussion, that just maybe the guy they are after is 100% fed up with our government and wants to enforce his right to have our government removed and a new government elected. this guy is labeld a domestic terroist and a child molester and if a child molester, then he needs to brought to justice, but can you honestly say, that he really is a terrorist or molester? the feds give the media a story and hype it up to gain blind public support for assistance is his capture. how can he be called a dommestic terrorist, when he is wanting to enforce his rights? I have NO quarrals with the law, and have thought about going into law enforcement myself, but i dont think i could enforce a law that i know is trumped up or bogus, just b/c them law maker in the capital say so. as of right now this guy on the loose has already been judged as guilty before he has stood trial. what happened to innocent until proven guilty. the feds have made this guy others like him, out to be a monster, which sways the public to beleive he is already guilty before he stands trial. as purebreed said, u do a peaceful protest, and we would be scrutinized and labeled un-american by the feds and the fed run media and then the american people. i have seen a peaceful protest turned violent when a plain clothed law officer started harrasing the protesters and started a fight causing un-rest and then walks away and uses his badge to be let in behind the police line barricade, so is that legal or fare?
as for the feds having more weapons, yes i agree, they do, and 98%+ know how to use them effectively too. I may dies, but i will die for freedom, the same freedom you have and your are sworn to uphold and protect.
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« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2011, 09:08:28 am »

Couldn't have said it better myself, Bailey!! Well Said...
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« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2011, 09:08:46 am »

Charles- I think you have a misconception of freedom. is freedom allowing an individual, who is obvioulsy of his rocker, to run around our country while possessing RPG's and anti air guns. I dont now if you have children or not, but I do, and I'm not big on the idea of one of those RPG rounds getting let loose at the school my daughter goes to. do we want to live in a country that shows its frustration such as Libia. Maybe you should turn on CNN sometime. I dont want to raise my children in that crap. so i guess if you desire to live in civil unrest you should move to a third world country. as for me and mine, we are gonna stay right here and hold down the farm.
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« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2011, 09:12:05 am »

Charles- I think you have a misconception of freedom. is freedom allowing an individual, who is obvioulsy of his rocker, to run around our country while possessing RPG's and anti air guns. I dont now if you have children or not, but I do, and I'm not big on the idea of one of those RPG rounds getting let loose at the school my daughter goes to. do we want to live in a country that shows its frustration such as Libia. Maybe you should turn on CNN sometime. I dont want to raise my children in that crap. so i guess if you desire to live in civil unrest you should move to a third world country. as for me and mine, we are gonna stay right here and hold down the farm.

What's your position on citizens with arms that are full auto, suppressed , etc 
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« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2011, 09:18:20 am »

Charles- I think you have a misconception of freedom. is freedom allowing an individual, who is obvioulsy of his rocker, to run around our country while possessing RPG's and anti air guns. I dont now if you have children or not, but I do, and I'm not big on the idea of one of those RPG rounds getting let loose at the school my daughter goes to. do we want to live in a country that shows its frustration such as Libia. Maybe you should turn on CNN sometime. I dont want to raise my children in that crap. so i guess if you desire to live in civil unrest you should move to a third world country. as for me and mine, we are gonna stay right here and hold down the farm.

What's your position on citizens with arms that are full auto, suppressed , etc 

i think that if you pass the background checks and have the proper paper work for the suppressor or the full auto firearm (i dont like the term "weapon" they are only weapons if you make them a weapon) then go for it.
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« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2011, 09:25:07 am »

Charles- I think you have a misconception of freedom. is freedom allowing an individual, who is obvioulsy of his rocker, to run around our country while possessing RPG's and anti air guns. I dont now if you have children or not, but I do, and I'm not big on the idea of one of those RPG rounds getting let loose at the school my daughter goes to. do we want to live in a country that shows its frustration such as Libia. Maybe you should turn on CNN sometime. I dont want to raise my children in that crap. so i guess if you desire to live in civil unrest you should move to a third world country. as for me and mine, we are gonna stay right here and hold down the farm.

What's your position on citizens with arms that are full auto, suppressed , etc 


I am pro gun and pro hunt... but full auto etc??? etc???is not needed for hunting or even for recreational purposes. So I stand against it...the next step I reckon is someone wanting a hydrogen bomb in the garage for recreational purposes...
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« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2011, 09:34:17 am »

Charles- I think you have a misconception of freedom. is freedom allowing an individual, who is obvioulsy of his rocker, to run around our country while possessing RPG's and anti air guns. I dont now if you have children or not, but I do, and I'm not big on the idea of one of those RPG rounds getting let loose at the school my daughter goes to. do we want to live in a country that shows its frustration such as Libia. Maybe you should turn on CNN sometime. I dont want to raise my children in that crap. so i guess if you desire to live in civil unrest you should move to a third world country. as for me and mine, we are gonna stay right here and hold down the farm.

What's your position on citizens with arms that are full auto, suppressed , etc 

i think that if you pass the background checks and have the proper paper work for the suppressor or the full auto firearm (i dont like the term "weapon" they are only weapons if you make them a weapon) then go for it.

I did pass Grin   I was just interested in a LEO's take on it. I'm a bit torn on where the limit should be for citizens. My thoughts are that when the founding fathers wrote the 2nd amendment, they never considered RPG's, Anti Aircraft guns, or anything of the sort. When they wrote the right to bear arms.  I don't think they would have wanted to gov't to have all the fun toys, and the citizens having the old outdated ones.  It's like us bringing a slingshot to a gun fight. My understanding is the right to keep and bear arms, was to to allow citizens to remain in a free state.

If the gov't today was to convert to a dictatorship, how would the citizens have the fire power to remain a free state?

On the flip side,  I am with you, in that I don't want a bunch of wackos running around with RPG's either...
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« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2011, 09:36:23 am »

Full auto and suppressors are alot different than a hydrogen bomb. I agree with Bailey on this one. I don't think felons should be able to own one and as long as you obtain them through the proper channels then I have no problem with them.
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« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2011, 09:37:03 am »


On the flip side,  I am with you, in that I don't want a bunch of wackos running around with RPG's either...


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« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2011, 10:06:44 am »

See here we go with saying he has all of that he may have it but he also may not why throw guilt before we know.  I am guessing he has not been caught.  This media is just what I am talking about fear is what leads you to submission.   
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« Reply #19 on: August 23, 2011, 10:21:01 am »

 Ok, yall got me curious so I googled the mans name and pulled up the story. It reads like something straight out of a movie. Here is the story that I read.... He seems a little off his rocker.

 http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/08/manhunt_on_for_ex-marine_oathkeeper_accused_of_rap.php
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