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« Reply #40 on: August 23, 2011, 09:40:06 pm »

I do think it will hit the fan. The second amendment does make militias legal. I do believe militias are to protect the people from the government. If you don't then look at the revoultion we were England and they fought England. They are not here to support our government but to force the government to behave in a manner to prevent a revolution. Unfortunatly it has not stopped our rights from being removed one at a time. I just really hope our politicians get their heads out of their @$$es. It is not one political party. The Patriot Act was Republican. It is both parties and that is what is scary because the people have no legal alternative. That is what brings violent revolutions. I took an oath to protect my country and constitution from all enemies... I would prefer the government change to the will of the people and go back to the constitution. That is why those Congressional enquiries bother me. Where do they get that power? It is not in the constition anywhere. That is what I took an oath to protect because they asked me to. They asked me to put God in my oath. I wish I had the solution but I only see the problems.

Of course Blue Ticks are a big part of the problem and if we all got unicorns it would fix everything Grin

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« Reply #41 on: August 23, 2011, 09:46:00 pm »

sooner or later its gonna hit the fan and everybody is gonna have to decide where they stand .

 

I already know where I'll stand. I'll be standing on my porch with my wife and daughter in the house. I never go looking for trouble anymore, a month before I got married I locked horns with a couple of jerks just because one of them spilled a drink on me. I was a lil banged up, but proud of myself for coming out on top (in my mind anyway Wink). Amanda gave me the ultimatum that changed my life. Its nobodies business but ours but I can tell you it was a punch to the gut. I decided from then on what my priorities were and i aint looked back since. If the wolf growls at the door I'll be eating wolf but outside of that I'll leave the revolution to t revolutionaries
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« Reply #42 on: August 23, 2011, 09:52:43 pm »

 jdt, i stand ready and willing to fight and die for freedom, but i really think there are to many that will become cowards and change sides, just to live. i guess they want to live under tyranny, tyranny from our government, a governament that uses fear and intimidation to control the people and make them blind to the fact that they,  the governement are ruining this country, that so many died for. now our mne and women are dying for freedom, but it aint american's freedom, its the freedoms for those who wouldnt lift a bucket of water to put a fire out for us, but would lift a bucket of fuel to make the fire burn hotter. the american people need wake the heck up and relise our government is slowly but surely taking our freedoms away and dont mind running this country into the ground and selling it off to the highest bidder. some really need to wake up and STOP thinking that folks like myself and others that they consider us an anti-gov terrorist militia, who only want our rights to be upheld and our liberties granted. WAKE UP people!!!!!
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« Reply #43 on: August 23, 2011, 09:54:26 pm »

 t-bob, we need good shepards to watch over our floks while we are at war.
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« Reply #44 on: August 23, 2011, 10:07:51 pm »

Charles I am afraid there is not enough people left in our country with a back bone everyone wants to hope and wish and hope it will be a fairy tail world instead of standing up for what our nation was created with and for.  DJ 9 out of 10 times I agree with you but here you have the shades pulled over your eyes also you are believing what THEY tell you and it frightens you exactly what they want you to think and feel fear.  Ruben you have never shot a full auto or silenced rifle have you.  They are a blast to shoot as recreation and the silenced are good for non game species like hogs.  Let them take one liberty they will take another and another till we have none it is happening every day.  We stood up for the dog legislation and they slid the anti breeding right under our nose. This is just an example but people yall need to step back and look at the big picture and what direction the government is taking us and if you are a god loving loyal american you will not like where we are headed.   
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« Reply #45 on: August 23, 2011, 10:48:56 pm »

 dj, you read what the governement controled media wants you to read and believe. if you honestly believe everything you read from government sponsered media, you are a sheep led to slaughter, you are like a horse with blinders on, only seeing whats its front of you and nothing else and get spooked at the slightest hint of trouble, but dont know the difference between truth and fiction. purebreed, you are right, there are to many spineless, gutless people blind and foolish and will believ what ever their so government tells them, b/c they dont think the government could do what is being said, by us so called, terrorists, and conspiricy therists. take the wolrd trade center for example, if you slow the footage down you can see controled dets serveral floors below the crumbling building as if collapses in on its self. there are to many expert demo companies agreeing the buildings were a controled det. I myself fell into the blindness of what was happening and what the media told us and hid from us but after a yr or so, i saw the footage of controled dets and implosions, not explosions. people are blind, being led by the blind. I hope when the revolution kicks off, then people will wake up and relise that me and others are not just a bunch of crazy minded militia members, which i am NOT a member of, but agree with their cause. i hope we have a revolt soon, hopefully folks will wake up.
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« Reply #46 on: August 24, 2011, 07:43:30 am »

Alright dad gummit im sorry I ever started.this post to begin with, get off of dinahs back first off, she aint hurrin yall. Secondly, I respect your service and all that jazz but seriously do you think calling the rest of us spineless cowards and telling me you need good shepards to watch your women folk will make anybody change their mind.

I feared if you went deep enough we would unfortunately discover that you believe 911 was an inside job and you probably fear the buildaburg group and trilateralism and all the other CRAZY conspiracy theories you read on the net. If I had I i would talk you.

This crap started because of this type of crazy, fly off the handle even when nobody is attacking ranting and raving. Can you step back and read your own words and tell me you wouldn't be worried about a person like you getting loose with explosives? I dont know why im wasting my breath, you are only going to think im wering blinders too. All I can say ri you is im still praying for your safe return from overseas but I also seriously believe that you should seek some counsel once you come back home. Not like  a psych even but just a friend to talk to or a pastor you respect.
 
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« Reply #47 on: August 24, 2011, 07:48:07 am »

 t-bob i amm hm, and i aint callin everybody spinless. there are some good ones out there but then there are some spineless. i work with 3 guy that i wouldnt trust with legos. any how. i dont need a shrink, or aything like that. i saw 1 when i was in the military and saw 1 during my va appointments. they atre the quacks not me.
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« Reply #48 on: August 24, 2011, 07:54:56 am »

Alright dad gummit im sorry I ever started.this post to begin with, get off of dinahs back first off, she aint hurrin yall. Secondly, I respect your service and all that jazz but seriously do you think calling the rest of us spineless cowards and telling me you need good shepards to watch your women folk will make anybody change their mind.

I feared if you went deep enough we would unfortunately discover that you believe 911 was an inside job and you probably fear the buildaburg group and trilateralism and all the other CRAZY conspiracy theories you read on the net. If I had I i would talk you.

This crap started because of this type of crazy, fly off the handle even when nobody is attacking ranting and raving. Can you step back and read your own words and tell me you wouldn't be worried about a person like you getting loose with explosives? I dont know why im wasting my breath, you are only going to think im wering blinders too. All I can say ri you is im still praying for your safe return from overseas but I also seriously believe that you should seek some counsel once you come back home. Not like  a psych even but just a friend to talk to or a pastor you respect.
 
America is the greatest nation on the planet and still a beacon of liberty, a shining city on a hill. I hope one day you'll stop and realize that

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« Reply #49 on: August 24, 2011, 07:56:39 am »

Good, im very happy for you. Now can we please stop this ridiculous thread, I apologized to you for thinking you were the dude via pm and I believe even in public. Now you and Landon are telling Dinah that she's wearing blinders and spineless and apparently stupid because she believes the govt?!?!?!

I hear lots of people who think  like you call in late night talk shows and Im smart enough to know I'll never change your mind, but may i ask that out of respect for a nice lady and because this thread was hijacked for your first reply, please kill this thread!!!!!!! Let it go already
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« Reply #50 on: August 24, 2011, 08:27:13 am »

I personally don't care what weapons you but what you do with them. I think law enforcement in the country gets out of hand at times. I think there are many many problems and I think the government is out of control and there will be a revolution. But how should it be handled? Look at the leaders that brought about the most change you will see that government leaders use force and kill people to make change. This is from Russia to the United States. The term terrorism is from France and it was a tactic used by governments. I believe many goverments use terrorism. It means that you are in fear. If you spank your child do you fear the government?

but how did the people bring about large scale change? Violence while used be people has not brought social change. The biggest social change in the country was Martin Luther King Jr. He did not use violence. His insperation was Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi who also brought about large scale social change. But what one person brought the biggest change to this world greater than any government? Jesus Christ did. Jesus Christ did not use violence but instead allowed it against Himself and use it for victory.

I may have a few guns but I would never try to use them and claim it was for social change or to make my country better. The pen is mightier than the sword. We are to fear the Lord and leave vegence to the Lord. Anger and violence are not as powerful as love. Love is something given not recieved. So if you want to change this country then I would say love your neighbor as yourself. If that spreads then there will be social change.

I agree with what you say...but to play the devils advocate here... Evil ........i would have to say that The Crusades brought about arguably the biggest social change in the history of the world...and that was VERY BLOODY! 
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« Reply #51 on: August 24, 2011, 08:47:05 am »

I typed a whole page response and just erased the whole thing. Mainly because I don't feel the need to defend my opinions.

All that I can say is I see civil wars on tv every day in third world countries and one group over throws the govt. that they oppose. Then a year later the group that was defeated re groups and over throws the new govt.  Those countries are never going to be at peace and I don't want to live like that. It seems that with those people, they guys with the biggest weapons are always the ones in control. I hope that America will remain a civilized country and handle their problems in a civilized manner.

T-Bob, thank you.   

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« Reply #52 on: August 24, 2011, 09:02:33 am »

When I was young and very impressionable I was involved in all the government is bad and evil movements you could find it went along until an agent from the FBI in Oklahoma city paid me a visit one day  Shocked.

 Years later after some real world lessons from life I attended the Federal Police Academy in Artesia New Mexico, trained along side the Secret Service, Border Patrol, US Marshals and my group Bureau of Indian Affairs. These other men and I were bound to go to places in the US Government and some in very high ranking positions where they would be deeply involved in government service, NONE of us sat around and plotted evil on the citizens of this country, nor did we have any diabolical plans to take people firearms away, nor did we ever go through any brain washing.

BUT here is what we did do, stood up every damn day and swore that we would fight to defend this country and the constitution and all it stood for, swore to protect YOU no matter the cost. Trained about Civil Rights until we were sick, all so your rights would not be infringed on in any way what so ever. what I saw and found on the federal level was great people working very hard to be great Americans knowing it was a thankless job, that people thought you were " The Man " and evil brainwashed fed's. We prayed together, pledged to the Us Flag together told stories about our little country home towns together. Our hand to hand combat instructor was a retired Navy Seal, he taught us about what it meant to fight and defend this country. Guess what he was not evil either, had not been taught or trained about any top secret evil " NEW WORLD ORDER "  But was a guy who grew up in a small town in the midwest, son of a farmer. He had taken a decent # of lives of radicals to defend us and would have gave his life so you could have the right to believe all the WWW. hype you can stand

I won't go any further cause some won't believe me anyway but let me say this. I have been close enough to the core of both sides, the Militia movement, and years later the Federal Government. Hear me please the Government is not, is not, is not secretly trying to get you or your guns, 95% are regular folks like you and me who love America and just go to work and come home every day. They try to do there best for you despite all the red tape. You have more to fear from a private lawyer than you do the US Government, if your really so worried about the state of the union here is an Idea.  STOP TYPING AND GO RIGHT THIS SECOND AND GET INVOLVED IN POLITICS, RUN FOR SOME OFFICE, CHECK IT OUT YOUR SELF AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. YOU WILL FIND THE BIG BAD WOLF DON'T RESIDE IN OUR GOVERNMENT JUST IN THE MINDS OF A FEW WELL MEANING FOLKS  
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« Reply #53 on: August 24, 2011, 09:08:58 am »

I did not call anyone out on being spineless and dj I don't mean to so call you out I ment it more as an example sorry I sounded that way I was tired when I typed last night.  Guys I'm in no way calling for civil war that would do us more harm than it would ever do good but what I'm trying to get at is people need to step back and get the whole picture in view and see we need some major change because the direction we are headed does not look good for later generations.  I do not mean to offend anyone and if I do or did I'm sorry I just want to keep this country great and am afraid we are on the wrong track to keep it that way the way it is now. 
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« Reply #54 on: August 24, 2011, 09:14:03 am »


 All is well.  Smiley
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« Reply #55 on: August 24, 2011, 09:21:03 am »

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America is the greatest nation on the planet and still a beacon of liberty, a shining city on a hill. I hope one day you'll stop and realize that

x2...

I want to give  examples of how things should not be done...and how they should be done...JMO

Let's say we all agree that the world is over populated and one reason is that the poor countries do not have the funds for birth control or whatever reason. The other reason is due to greed...More people equals more demand than supply... more demand equals to more money and the big money folks will make a killing and these guys have the funds to lobby the politicians...and this will stimulate the economy and all is good for a little while until it gets out of balance. The few are getting richer and the working class are slowly losing ground on their standard of living. This creates unrest/anger and a mob forms and they start looking for someone to blame...and that someone is innocent but this mob is looking for a scape goat...and this will eventually create war. The mob is looking at a symptom but not the root cause...

The radical way to fix this is through war and many will suffer and die.


In my mind the right way is through education and in incentive programs to deal with the population issue. It wouldn't happen overnight but it would happen.

I believe that once a child is born that we should do everything we can to raise him/her in the right environment and give them the tools to be a successful grown up... that one day contributes to society instead of taking from society...

I don't mind paying taxes for the right reasons...but we need a system in place that will take us to a better quality of life for the majority and not the rich minority. AND IT CAN BE DONE THROUGH EDUCATION AND THROUGH CREATING THE LAWS THAT WILL GET US THERE AS WELL AS VOTING IN THE RIGHT POLITICIANS IN GOVERNMENT.

THERE SHOULD BE A LAW AGAINST BIG MONEY LOBBYING SO THAT THE WORKING CLASS CAN HAVE EQUAL SAY...

YOU MIGHT THINK THAT THIS POST DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE SUBJECT BUT IT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH IT....JUST LOOKING AT THE BIG PICTURE...
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« Reply #57 on: August 24, 2011, 09:25:31 am »

I personally don't care what weapons you but what you do with them. I think law enforcement in the country gets out of hand at times. I think there are many many problems and I think the government is out of control and there will be a revolution. But how should it be handled? Look at the leaders that brought about the most change you will see that government leaders use force and kill people to make change. This is from Russia to the United States. The term terrorism is from France and it was a tactic used by governments. I believe many goverments use terrorism. It means that you are in fear. If you spank your child do you fear the government?

but how did the people bring about large scale change? Violence while used be people has not brought social change. The biggest social change in the country was Martin Luther King Jr. He did not use violence. His insperation was Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi who also brought about large scale social change. But what one person brought the biggest change to this world greater than any government? Jesus Christ did. Jesus Christ did not use violence but instead allowed it against Himself and use it for victory.

I may have a few guns but I would never try to use them and claim it was for social change or to make my country better. The pen is mightier than the sword. We are to fear the Lord and leave vegence to the Lord. Anger and violence are not as powerful as love. Love is something given not recieved. So if you want to change this country then I would say love your neighbor as yourself. If that spreads then there will be social change.

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« Reply #58 on: August 24, 2011, 09:38:17 am »

I agree reuben but my question/fear is it too late through education but what needs to happen in the near future?  One issue would be the national debt we wait for education to kick in we will be that much deeper.
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« Reply #59 on: August 24, 2011, 07:23:22 pm »

Group hug, come on you too. It is group hug time.

Now I will say there are people trying to take your rights away. They are the lawyers. Not the cops.

Go read the Constitution before you claim to defend it. "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

It says "A well regulated Militia..." Not a child molester that wants to shoot cops.
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