militia man on the loose in sealy?

[bailey508]

Group hug, come on you too. It is group hug time.

Now I will say there are people trying to take your rights away. They are the lawyers. Not the cops.

Go read the Constitution before you claim to defend it. "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

It says "A well regulated Militia..." Not a child molester that wants to shoot cops.

i second the motion, dub for president...

[jdt]

if he is a child molester , wanting to stick it to the government , using the term militia , or american ... he  deserves worse than our government will give him .

[Circle C]

if he is a child molester , wanting to stick it to the government , using the term militia , or american ... he  deserves worse than our government will give him .

Is he a child molester?

[SCHitemHard]

if he is a child molester , wanting to stick it to the government , using the term militia , or american ... he  deserves worse than our government will give him .

Is he a child molester?

is he still breathing?

[jdt]

if he is a child molester , wanting to stick it to the government , using the term militia , or american ... he  deserves worse than our government will give him .

Is he a child molester?

   circle c thats what i'm wondering too

[dub]

Cild molestation is what they charged him with and he was supposed to go to court. I doubt they made that up. They could just charge him with weapons charges if they want to make something up. You have to have some young girl come forward and accuse him of molesting her. You can't really make that up. Some girl can lie but I don't think the gov would do it. Too many other things that are easier to prove. He is claiming the gov is out to get him. They may be out to get him but I believe the little girl.

Charge him as a domestic terrorist. They can get people to lie and then say they are undercover so they need to hide the identity. That would be how to "get him." But that little girl had to go to court and tell people what happened to her. So I don't see him as any thing else.

[charles]

Dub, i beg to differ on a girl making it up. Iv seen it in the military in my own unit. Both accounts, the man was charged, tried and found not guilty. The step daughter recanted he acusations. It boild down to the new wife getting mad, talked her daughter into making a complaint. If this guy did it, then punish him, but i thought in america, we are innocent UNTILL proven guilty. I dispise rapists and molester and think they need to hav their twig and berries ripped off n done the way they did their victims, but untill tried and convicted, they are still innocent. We as a society are to fast to jump to conclusions and believe the media hype, before knowing the truth or circumstance

[bailey508]

I said i was done, but yall are getting unrealistic. WHO ever said this guy was guilty of ANYTHING. ive yet to read that part. and yes in this country you are innocent until proven guilty. however, in order to be proven guilty or innocent, you must stand trial. In order to stand trial you must first be arrested, formally charged, and arrainged by a magistrate. If the turd head is on the run then none of the above has happened. I bet it was your kid that he molested (if he did at all) you would have a different outlook.

Im not calling anyone out, but there are people on here that want to talk about "due process" when they dont have a clue what they are talking about. One of my close friends and ex-partner had to shoot a meth-headed punk yesterday morning while trying to serve a warrant. he has a two year old and one on the way and was forced to make a decision that most of everybody on here has never had to make. so untill you deal with scum of the earth on a daily basis, dont judge the ones of us that do. the ones that wear a target over our hearts for fifteen bucks an hour. I have had to run to the rescue of people and suck it up and help them at that time when two days before they cussed me up one side and down the other and spit in my face because they didnt think they DESERVED a ticket. nobody likes the police untill they need the police. what the hell would this country be without police. think about that for a minute.

i get so sick and tired of hearing people whine and cry about how the police are just picking on them. well, if you werent breaking the law, you wouldnt have nothing to worry about. yall got me on my soap box early this morning...lol

[charles]

U r very right bailey. If ur breaking the law, suck it up n face consiquinces. Yaw hav a difficult job for few dollars, just as the soldiers. Thank u for ur service.

[S_J_KENNELS]

Im not calling anyone out, but there are people on here that want to talk about "due process" when they dont have a clue what they are talking about. One of my close friends and ex-partner had to shoot a meth-headed punk yesterday morning while trying to serve a warrant. he has a two year old and one on the way and was forced to make a decision that most of everybody on here has never had to make. so untill you deal with scum of the earth on a daily basis, dont judge the ones of us that do. the ones that wear a target over our hearts for fifteen bucks an hour. I have had to run to the rescue of people and suck it up and help them at that time when two days before they cussed me up one side and down the other and spit in my face because they didnt think they DESERVED a ticket. nobody likes the police untill they need the police. what the hell would this country be without police. think about that for a minute.

i get so sick and tired of hearing people whine and cry about how the police are just picking on them. well, if you werent breaking the law, you wouldnt have nothing to worry about.

X2

[Purebreedcolt]

If my info is right the complaint started with the mad soon to be ex wife.

[bailey508]

If my info is right the complaint started with the mad soon to be ex wife.

I have no doubt..i have seen similar cases of the wrongfully accused. however, they still have to go through the process in proving themselves innocent. Just because its a scorn woman that files the complaint, doesnt make it just go away. what if she IS NOT lying.

[Circle C]

the process in proving themselves innocent.

Seems kinda backwards to me....   I guess it's no different than being sued, someone can sue you for anything, then you have to defend yourself.


There needs to be some type of reform for lawsuit abuse, as well as false accusations.

I say if someone makes a false accusation, then they get the proposed jail term that the accused would have had.

[bailey508]

the process in proving themselves innocent.

Seems kinda backwards to me....   I guess it's no different than being sued, someone can sue you for anything, then you have to defend yourself.


There needs to be some type of reform for lawsuit abuse, as well as false accusations.

I say if someone makes a false accusation, then they get the proposed jail term that the accused would have had.

There is. Its called perjury

[Circle C]

Bailey508,

    Isn't perjury lying in a judicial proceeding?  Or does perjury apply in other scenarios too?

What happens to the woman that falsely accuses a man of rape. The DA charges the guy, then she rescinds her accusation. It never goes to court, so she does not perjure herself.... all the while the guy has still been accused of rape, and that's all the public remembers.

I've got some LEO friends that have to really cover their behinds when dealing with females, for just that reason. Just the accusation would ruin their career.

[Reuben]

the process in proving themselves innocent.

Seems kinda backwards to me....   I guess it's no different than being sued, someone can sue you for anything, then you have to defend yourself.


There needs to be some type of reform for lawsuit abuse, as well as false accusations.

I say if someone makes a false accusation, then they get the proposed jail term that the accused would have had.

x2...I have seen false accusations where the innocent really can't prove their innocence....

I work with a man now that it cost him 17,000 dollars and several months in jail before he was able to prove it wasn't him. He was lucky to have enough evidence to prove his innocence...Sometimes the accused are guilty until proven innocent.

[bailey508]

perjury does "mostly" deal with a formal proceeding. Texas covers us with a charge of giveing a false statement to a peace officer. you can ask all your LEO friends and they will tell you the same...get it all in writing. once she puts it on a sworn statement and signs it. it had better be true. if you prove it to be an intentional distruth, charges are filed. I worked for a sheriff once that when someone would come in and complain on the deputies, which are usually bogus to begin with. he wouldnt take the complaint unless they wrote it out on a sworn statement and signed it. most of them would retract their complaint before making it. if you sign a statement and its a lie, you just commited a felony.

Something as big as a rape accusation would normally go before a grand jury for a sealed indictment rather than getting a normal warrant. if the accuser testifies before a grandjury in order to charge the accused and lies, its perjury. if a police officer lies under oath, its aggravated perjury. where is the injustice their...lol

[bailey508]

the process in proving themselves innocent.

Seems kinda backwards to me....   I guess it's no different than being sued, someone can sue you for anything, then you have to defend yourself.


There needs to be some type of reform for lawsuit abuse, as well as false accusations.

I say if someone makes a false accusation, then they get the proposed jail term that the accused would have had.

x2...I have seen false accusations where the innocent really can't prove their innocence....

I work with a man now that it cost him 17,000 dollars and several months in jail before he was able to prove it wasn't him. He was lucky to have enough evidence to prove his innocence...Sometimes the accused are guilty until proven innocent.

im not saying we have a perfect judicial system. not even close. hell take the casey anthony trial for example. i couldnt figure out how any redblooded American could have called her innocent (soley my opinion). but at the same time, as technology gets bigger and better, mainly because of the use of DNA, we are starting to see people getting out of prison who where wrongfully convicted years ago. but what do you do, who do you blame, do you blame the twelve jury members that listened to the evidence and defense brought forth and had to make a decision. so what do you do for these people. give them some money and an "im sorry". thats a slap in the face, you cant get the time back. I agree its a flawed system, but its a hell of alot better than what most other places have or not having any system in place.

[Circle C]

perjury does "mostly" deal with a formal proceeding. Texas covers us with a charge of giveing a false statement to a peace officer. you can ask all your LEO friends and they will tell you the same...get it all in writing. once she puts it on a sworn statement and signs it. it had better be true. if you prove it to be an intentional distruth, charges are filed. I worked for a sheriff once that when someone would come in and complain on the deputies, which are usually bogus to begin with. he wouldnt take the complaint unless they wrote it out on a sworn statement and signed it. most of them would retract their complaint before making it. if you sign a statement and its a lie, you just commited a felony.

Something as big as a rape accusation would normally go before a grand jury for a sealed indictment rather than getting a normal warrant. if the accuser testifies before a grandjury in order to charge the accused and lies, its perjury. if a police officer lies under oath, its aggravated perjury. where is the injustice their...lol

That makes sense.  I think the change I would like to see, is that penalty for giving a false statement, should equal the penalty for the accused crime.  Or maybe just cut of their hand, or  a few toes... you know, just enough to make sure they tell the truth,

[bailey508]

i agree with you CirlceC...I have always been an advocate for stiffer penalties for stuff like that.

give you an example of why it chaps me so bad....In the State of Texas if you have EVER been convicted of ANY charge of family violence you cannot purchase nor posses a firearm. Thats fine and good, except.....(and i have seen this happen dozens of times)

you (not being anyone inparticular) and your wife get into an argument. Neighbors hear yall and call the law. I (or any other officer) shows up to investigate. Pissed off wife says you shoved her. She writes out a statement declaring this is true. I am forced to arrest you, State of Texas says that I HAVE TO. its a class C misd. same degree charge as a speeding ticket. Now, you being the good ole boy that spends his days working and weekends hunting and aint never been in any trouble before is in jail. here comes good ole boy justice of the peace and arraigns you. tells you that their is a $500 fine for assault family violence, but since you spent the night in jail if you just plea guilty he will show time served and you get to pack up and leave for free. sounds good. you sign the papers and walk out the door.

you plead guilty to a family violence charge. you will NEVER buy another firearm or be able to legally posses one....yes its a flawed system