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« Reply #100 on: August 25, 2011, 12:39:30 pm »

Romans 13: 2 So anyone who rebels against authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and they will be punished. 3 For the authorities do not strike fear in people who are doing right, but in those who are doing wrong. Would you like to live without fear of the authorities? Do what is right, and they will honor you.

Just an FYI, God DID NOT institute the United States Government and to think he did is downright ludicrious! That statement is downright humorous!!!  So is God "instituting" the US Government to remove prayer from school? Is God instituting that his prayer and name be left off of every federal, building, document , etc...Huh?
Well I would recommend reading your Bible. So are you telling me God is not in charge of this world?

Job 1:8 Then the LORD said to Satan, “Have you considered my servant Job? There is no one on earth like him; he is blameless and upright, a man who fears God and shuns evil.”

Job 38:1 Then the LORD spoke to Job out of the storm. He said:
 2 “Who is this that obscures my plans
   with words without knowledge?
3 Brace yourself like a man;
   I will question you,
   and you shall answer me.
...

... Job 40:3 Then Job answered the LORD:

 4 “I am unworthy—how can I reply to you?
   I put my hand over my mouth.
5 I spoke once, but I have no answer—
   twice, but I will say no more.”

 6 Then the LORD spoke to Job out of the storm:

 7 “Brace yourself like a man;
   I will question you,
   and you shall answer me.

 8 “Would you discredit my justice?
   Would you condemn me to justify yourself?
...

Job 42:1 Then Job replied to the LORD:
 2 “I know that you can do all things;
   no purpose of yours can be thwarted.
3 You asked, ‘Who is this that obscures my plans without knowledge?’
   Surely I spoke of things I did not understand,
   things too wonderful for me to know.

 4 “You said, ‘Listen now, and I will speak;
   I will question you,
   and you shall answer me.’
5 My ears had heard of you
   but now my eyes have seen you.
6 Therefore I despise myself
   and repent in dust and ashes.”

 Job 42:12 The LORD blessed the latter part of Job’s life more than the former part. He had fourteen thousand sheep, six thousand camels, a thousand yoke of oxen and a thousand donkeys. 13 And he also had seven sons and three daughters. 14 The first daughter he named Jemimah, the second Keziah and the third Keren-Happuch. 15 Nowhere in all the land were there found women as beautiful as Job’s daughters, and their father granted them an inheritance along with their brothers.

 16 After this, Job lived a hundred and forty years; he saw his children and their children to the fourth generation. 17 And so Job died, an old man and full of years.


This is the oldest book in the Bible. I have found a place that is clearly wrong. If it wrong then there is no God because it says God spoke these words.
Job 38: 16 “Have you journeyed to the springs of the sea
   or walked in the recesses of the deep?

I remember in school I was taught the seas are filled from the rivers,streams, and rain. There are no spring at the bottom of the sea so there is no God. Oh wait a minute I am getting a call. Oops I guess I was wrong. In 1977 a few thousand years at least since the book of Job was written it appears springs were found "In 1977, scientists discovered hot springs at a depth of 2.5 km, on the Galapagos Rift (spreading ridge) off the coast of Ecuador. This exciting discovery was not really a surprise. Since the early 1970s, scientists had predicted that hot springs (geothermal vents) should be found at the active spreading centers along the mid-oceanic ridges, where magma, at temperatures over 1,000 °C, presumably was being erupted to form new oceanic crust. More exciting, because it was totally unexpected, was the discovery of abundant and unusual sea life -- giant tube worms, huge clams, and mussels -- that thrived around the hot springs." Citing the United States Government http://pubs.usgs.gov/gip/dynamic/exploring.html

I think you better trust the word of God more than your own words without wisdom. You are wrong and I refer you to the Word of God as confirmed by science.
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« Reply #101 on: August 25, 2011, 12:57:32 pm »

Romans 13: 2 So anyone who rebels against authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and they will be punished. 3 For the authorities do not strike fear in people who are doing right, but in those who are doing wrong. Would you like to live without fear of the authorities? Do what is right, and they will honor you.

Just an FYI, God DID NOT institute the United States Government and to think he did is downright ludicrious! That statement is downright humorous!!!  So is God "instituting" the US Government to remove prayer from school? Is God instituting that his prayer and name be left off of every federal, building, document , etc...Huh?
Well I would recommend reading your Bible. So are you telling me God is not in charge of this world?

Job 1:8 Then the LORD said to Satan, “Have you considered my servant Job? There is no one on earth like him; he is blameless and upright, a man who fears God and shuns evil.”

Job 38:1 Then the LORD spoke to Job out of the storm. He said:
 2 “Who is this that obscures my plans
   with words without knowledge?
3 Brace yourself like a man;
   I will question you,
   and you shall answer me.
...

... Job 40:3 Then Job answered the LORD:

 4 “I am unworthy—how can I reply to you?
   I put my hand over my mouth.
5 I spoke once, but I have no answer—
   twice, but I will say no more.”

 6 Then the LORD spoke to Job out of the storm:

 7 “Brace yourself like a man;
   I will question you,
   and you shall answer me.

 8 “Would you discredit my justice?
   Would you condemn me to justify yourself?
...

Job 42:1 Then Job replied to the LORD:
 2 “I know that you can do all things;
   no purpose of yours can be thwarted.
3 You asked, ‘Who is this that obscures my plans without knowledge?’
   Surely I spoke of things I did not understand,
   things too wonderful for me to know.

 4 “You said, ‘Listen now, and I will speak;
   I will question you,
   and you shall answer me.’
5 My ears had heard of you
   but now my eyes have seen you.
6 Therefore I despise myself
   and repent in dust and ashes.”

 Job 42:12 The LORD blessed the latter part of Job’s life more than the former part. He had fourteen thousand sheep, six thousand camels, a thousand yoke of oxen and a thousand donkeys. 13 And he also had seven sons and three daughters. 14 The first daughter he named Jemimah, the second Keziah and the third Keren-Happuch. 15 Nowhere in all the land were there found women as beautiful as Job’s daughters, and their father granted them an inheritance along with their brothers.

 16 After this, Job lived a hundred and forty years; he saw his children and their children to the fourth generation. 17 And so Job died, an old man and full of years.


This is the oldest book in the Bible. I have found a place that is clearly wrong. If it wrong then there is no God because it says God spoke these words.
Job 38: 16 “Have you journeyed to the springs of the sea
   or walked in the recesses of the deep?

I remember in school I was taught the seas are filled from the rivers,streams, and rain. There are no spring at the bottom of the sea so there is no God. Oh wait a minute I am getting a call. Oops I guess I was wrong. In 1977 a few thousand years at least since the book of Job was written it appears springs were found "In 1977, scientists discovered hot springs at a depth of 2.5 km, on the Galapagos Rift (spreading ridge) off the coast of Ecuador. This exciting discovery was not really a surprise. Since the early 1970s, scientists had predicted that hot springs (geothermal vents) should be found at the active spreading centers along the mid-oceanic ridges, where magma, at temperatures over 1,000 °C, presumably was being erupted to form new oceanic crust. More exciting, because it was totally unexpected, was the discovery of abundant and unusual sea life -- giant tube worms, huge clams, and mussels -- that thrived around the hot springs." Citing the United States Government http://pubs.usgs.gov/gip/dynamic/exploring.html

I think you better trust the word of God more than your own words without wisdom. You are wrong and I refer you to the Word of God as confirmed by science.

I think you misunderstood me, the governenment of this country has slowly turned away from God and that is a very bad thing, IMO. Examples, NO prayer in schools, No referring to God in anything having to do with the federal government.  God is in charge of this world, but the goverment of this country is moving away from his presence as we speak, so the statement that God and the federal government are one is absolute BS!!!!  The government has/is doing everything in its power to remove God from our lives.  That is a fact!  I think that maybe the interpretation of Romans 13: 2 is getting lost here. God did not mean for us to bow down to every form of authoritative rule. The government is not living by God's law therefore i dont think the word was intended to protect those like the government.  IMO God was not referring to the corrupt, injust and downright hateful political machine that is now the government of this country. But everyone interprets things differently.


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« Reply #102 on: August 25, 2011, 01:03:57 pm »

Romans 13: 2 So anyone who rebels against authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and they will be punished. 3 For the authorities do not strike fear in people who are doing right, but in those who are doing wrong. Would you like to live without fear of the authorities? Do what is right, and they will honor you.

Just an FYI, God DID NOT institute the United States Government and to think he did is downright ludicrious! That statement is downright humorous!!!  So is God "instituting" the US Government to remove prayer from school? Is God instituting that his prayer and name be left off of every federal, building, document , etc...Huh?
Well I would recommend reading your Bible. So are you telling me God is not in charge of this world?
And be not conformed to this world: but be you transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.


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« Reply #103 on: August 25, 2011, 05:25:07 pm »

Just to be clear slimhogdog that was not an attack on you. I love those verses because they help me. I do believe this country has turned from God but I don't think it was a surprise to God. I believe everything is in God's hands and there are things I can change and things I can't. But nothing is beyond what God can change if he wants.

2 Chronicles 7:13 “When I shut up the heavens so that there is no rain, or command locusts to devour the land or send a plague among my people, 14 if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land.
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« Reply #104 on: August 26, 2011, 12:44:48 am »

AMEN!!!!!!!
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« Reply #105 on: August 26, 2011, 01:10:44 am »

I served 9 years military law enforcement. Honorbaly discharged. Never served any jail time. Never even had a speeding ticket until last year. So your various attempts to denigrate those that don't believe in the absolute power of federal governmet is offensive to me. I'm an American citizen. I demand accountability from those that make a living off my taxes. I am not anti police. Fa from it. I support the police who do their job correctly. I support federal law enforcement when they do not exceed the bounds of their power. But if you're a cop or a fed that does things the shady way or is just incompetent then you have no business in law enforcement. I feel the same way about politicians and teachers. I am anti usurper of power. I am anti anyone who tries to take away my rights and freedoms. The military, the police, teachers, politicians are ALL PUBLIC SERVANTS. They are supposed to serve us. Not the other way around. Honor those that do their job the right way and get rid of those that don't. Seems reasonable to me.

I like the way you think.Iv been in a couple deferent forms of law enforcement for the past 8 years and iv seen pretty much all sides( state and fedrel ) and the whole system is F up. Alot of politics.
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« Reply #106 on: August 26, 2011, 06:18:05 am »

I served 9 years military law enforcement. Honorbaly discharged. Never served any jail time. Never even had a speeding ticket until last year. So your various attempts to denigrate those that don't believe in the absolute power of federal governmet is offensive to me. I'm an American citizen. I demand accountability from those that make a living off my taxes. I am not anti police. Fa from it. I support the police who do their job correctly. I support federal law enforcement when they do not exceed the bounds of their power. But if you're a cop or a fed that does things the shady way or is just incompetent then you have no business in law enforcement. I feel the same way about politicians and teachers. I am anti usurper of power. I am anti anyone who tries to take away my rights and freedoms. The military, the police, teachers, politicians are ALL PUBLIC SERVANTS. They are supposed to serve us. Not the other way around. Honor those that do their job the right way and get rid of those that don't. Seems reasonable to me.

I like the way you think.Iv been in a couple deferent forms of law enforcement for the past 8 years and iv seen pretty much all sides( state and fedrel ) and the whole system is F up. Alot of politics.

SGT.Davis,

I agree with you, machine73 has some good points. It is reasonable and logical, IMO...
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« Reply #107 on: August 26, 2011, 06:22:34 am »

I know there are bad cops and they say most are good. But I saw a man lose his career because he arrested the wrong man. Oh he was guilty and everyone knew it. The coo was the only one on the force that cared about the law more than the family the criminal was from. There was a conviction it took years but the family got their revenge and he was fired as a cop. Of course you could not prove it. But he was the only cop in the whole city (not Houston) that would arrest the man for his repeated obvious crimes. So was it mostly good or bad cops. How many coos would make that sacrifice he will never be called a hero. There are people in this country that have way too much power. I am not saying I would not be scared too.
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« Reply #108 on: August 26, 2011, 07:18:23 am »

Bailey, it seems to me that u think ur poo dont stink. I will have to retract my thanks to for being s LEO, and from some of ur posts, i think i may get better police service from my locals crackhead and his dealers. As far as having children, yes i hav i kid n if somt nut case shot the school up bc he/she was mad at a teacher and my son got killed, then it was his time. I wouldnt be mad a dumba$$ n be mad at the gun or rpg as u keep refering to, i would be mad at the person who did it in most cases. I guess ur the type cop who thinks yaw are the only 1s who own/posess any full or surpressed weapons. I guess u want to keep the americans gun rights opressed to only shotguns, huntn rifles n sport pistols. I cant speak for evry person out the, but im goin through the legal means to get my silencers n full autos, just to say i have them, but if if i have to use them, i will. Machine73, its ok. Some think they hav to bully others to prove they are a man, they must lack in other areas of life, hopefully the Leo population dont turn to legalized crime no more than they already.
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« Reply #109 on: August 26, 2011, 07:52:53 am »

I think Bailey and everybody else on here probably realizes that there are crooked, sneaky, and untruthful law enforcement and other goverment officials. This argument started by people saying, he was running because the crooked law enforcement scared him but you don't run unless you are guilty. Plain and simple.
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« Reply #110 on: August 26, 2011, 08:36:12 am »

Bailey, it seems to me that u think ur poo dont stink. I will have to retract my thanks to for being s LEO, and from some of ur posts, i think i may get better police service from my locals crackhead and his dealers. As far as having children, yes i hav i kid n if somt nut case shot the school up bc he/she was mad at a teacher and my son got killed, then it was his time. I wouldnt be mad a dumba$$ n be mad at the gun or rpg as u keep refering to, i would be mad at the person who did it in most cases. I guess ur the type cop who thinks yaw are the only 1s who own/posess any full or surpressed weapons. I guess u want to keep the americans gun rights opressed to only shotguns, huntn rifles n sport pistols. I cant speak for evry person out the, but im goin through the legal means to get my silencers n full autos, just to say i have them, but if if i have to use them, i will. Machine73, its ok. Some think they hav to bully others to prove they are a man, they must lack in other areas of life, hopefully the Leo population dont turn to legalized crime no more than they already.


You obviously read as poorly as you type. You apparently missed my answer about full auto firearms, and yes my "poo" stinks. I am very aware.
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« Reply #111 on: August 26, 2011, 09:18:28 am »

 i read very well and was using my phone i dont like spelling whole words out unless i have to, speling aint my strongest, but im sure ur not perfect yourself.by the way, what county, city do you patrol? i just want to make sure and not go through your area, you seem to swing both sides of the fence as far as law goes and dont want to get caught up in a crooked town or county, there is enough in my area as it is.
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« Reply #112 on: August 26, 2011, 09:21:31 am »

i read very well and was using my phone i dont like spelling whole words out unless i have to, speling aint my strongest, but im sure ur not perfect yourself.by the way, what county, city do you patrol? i just want to make sure and not go through your area, you seem to swing both sides of the fence as far as law goes and dont want to get caught up in a crooked town or county, there is enough in my area as it is.

God bless you Charles. I'm done with this conversation.
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« Reply #113 on: August 26, 2011, 10:17:08 am »

If the US government can aassasinate it's own president and then successfully cover up the entire deed, they pretty much have the power to do anything they want to anyone they want  Wink Unfortunately
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« Reply #114 on: August 26, 2011, 10:20:37 am »

 very well said warrent423. im not the only 1 that is crazy Grin Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #115 on: August 26, 2011, 10:36:27 am »

Charles, I apologize for implying your crazy. Im sure we'd get along just fine in person. You seem to be just a guy who is concerned for the health of this republic. It was wrong of me to lose my cool, so agree to disagree on a few things.
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« Reply #116 on: August 26, 2011, 10:49:07 am »

 t-bob, aint no feeling hurt here on my end. I can get along with nearly every1. ur good people in my book. polotics aint a good subject for any1, not even the poloticians themselves. i have a alligator x dillar x rino thick skin, i get hot headed, but i had to grow tough skin to live with my dad rasing me by himself since i was 2 till i was 18 when i joined the army.
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« Reply #117 on: August 26, 2011, 08:57:54 pm »

dang  charles we aint but a few that can admit we AINT right always  Grin
it amazes me when then badge is always right ,no matter even after they are proven NOT right or but never WRONG.BUT WE HAVE HAVE TO PROVE we are not wrong cause we dont have  STINKING BADGES
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« Reply #118 on: August 26, 2011, 09:08:48 pm »

Not everyone can be right all the time like me.
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« Reply #119 on: August 26, 2011, 11:20:06 pm »

Yea dub, it ducks bein right all the time. I hav that complex too
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