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« Reply #20 on: August 28, 2011, 10:43:24 pm » |
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Thats why I keep a few close friends. Got enough around to be able to put me back into the Yeller dogs perty quick if I bite the hard one. Shouldn't have to worry bout it if you stage your dogs correctly but chit happens!
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« Reply #21 on: August 28, 2011, 10:45:58 pm » |
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I have been doing that for years, getting verbal permission to breed back to any of the pups coming out of my yard if needed.
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« Reply #22 on: August 28, 2011, 10:47:28 pm » |
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Arrowbar don't take them good plotts around the gators. The gators know what Blueticks eat and don't mess with them.
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« Reply #23 on: August 29, 2011, 06:43:18 am » |
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I am starting over again and I am trying to duplicate my old line of dogs I used to run. Only difference is I will add a touch of pit or a touch of super rough florida cur that produces hog. But only after I get these dogs hunting like I like...
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog... A hunting dog is born not made...
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« Reply #24 on: August 29, 2011, 12:10:14 pm » |
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if i had to start over i would get foundation BMCs and breed them to a good game pit, i would also look into a jagd breeder, and would get some plotts to keep them running
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« Reply #25 on: August 29, 2011, 05:42:17 pm » |
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If i lost my pack tomorrow, i would probably burn my pens, sell my box, and gear any buy a new harley.. heck int he long run its ALOT cheaper.. 
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« Reply #26 on: August 29, 2011, 06:23:34 pm » |
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I am starting over again and I am trying to duplicate my old line of dogs I used to run. Only difference is I will add a touch of pit or a touch of super rough florida cur that produces hog. But only after I get these dogs hunting like I like...
I really like the sound of that, but I received little encouragement from those I discussed the cross with. I had dreamed of a close range wind dog that only barked when forced to by a bad one. Short races and catching 200lb. sows with a pair. I look forward to seeing your pups. if i had to start over i would get foundation BMCs and breed them to a good game pit, i would also look into a jagd breeder, and would get some plotts to keep them running
I like that to; maybe it's cause I've always had pits. I have a little terrier PLEASE come get her. 
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« Reply #27 on: August 29, 2011, 06:31:25 pm » |
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Shankem which cross did you recieve little encouragement about? Sometimes ill run two dogs on thegrond at the same time, and the one thats always ont he ground is 6 yea old Fl cur. If i run him and my cat cross gyp together i may get a bark or two (from her) ive never see him bay with another dog. If its him and my year old there aint no barking.
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« Reply #28 on: August 29, 2011, 06:48:44 pm » |
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Shankem which cross did you recieve little encouragement about? Sometimes ill run two dogs on thegrond at the same time, and the one thats always ont he ground is 6 yea old Fl cur. If i run him and my cat cross gyp together i may get a bark or two (from her) ive never see him bay with another dog. If its him and my year old there aint no barking.
I was thinking of crossing my mt. curr with my pit. Sounds like you got a helluva dog down there; usually don't need a bulldog with a pair like that. Awesome!
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« Reply #29 on: August 29, 2011, 08:00:04 pm » |
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« Reply #30 on: August 29, 2011, 08:03:35 pm » |
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Shankem the large majority of Fl curs are gritty, and usually catch their own. Thats why i was wonderin on which cross. Both my pit and my cat coss broke out of their pens while i was at work. came home to them locked up. I keep in contact with 7 out of the 8 people who got a pupa and they all said they already will bay a SMALL hog. Pups are 4 or 5 months. the one i kept hasnt seen one yet, but my hunting partner has 2. One will bay one we have to hold on too cause hell catch.  Youll never know till you try the cross.
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« Reply #31 on: August 29, 2011, 08:51:00 pm » |
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I wouldn't do it the way I have the first go round! I would find someone who is using their stock/hunting dogs that fit the style I like on a weekly or preferrably a daily basis. I would then work my tail end off for them, beg, bribe, and do whatever I had to until I got the chance to buy a pup or two from them. I would then raise them up the way I wanted them to be raised, and hunt the fire out of them when they got old enough. I would have a base to go off of then, and earn the respect of my peers by having quality, not quantity.
By the way, breed would not matter to me. How they work and how the previous generations they were out of worked would matter. I don't care if it is yellow, leopard, black/tan, blue, white, or pink and purple polka dotted. If the line of dogs suited my purpose and style I would pursue it.
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« Reply #32 on: August 29, 2011, 08:58:28 pm » |
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i was jokn bout tha terrier she aint a jagd she a stray. I wouldnt wish that dog on n e one. Thanx for tha info rd.
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« Reply #33 on: August 29, 2011, 09:09:59 pm » |
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I wouldn't do it the way I have the first go round! I would find someone who is using their stock/hunting dogs that fit the style I like on a weekly or preferrably a daily basis. I would then work my tail end off for them, beg, bribe, and do whatever I had to until I got the chance to buy a pup or two from them. I would then raise them up the way I wanted them to be raised, and hunt the fire out of them when they got old enough. I would have a base to go off of then, and earn the respect of my peers by having quality, not quantity.
By the way, breed would not matter to me. How they work and how the previous generations they were out of worked would matter. I don't care if it is yellow, leopard, black/tan, blue, white, or pink and purple polka dotted. If the line of dogs suited my purpose and style I would pursue it.
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« Reply #34 on: August 29, 2011, 09:23:14 pm » |
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Been there, done that. Tried just about everything, doesn't mean I had the best of anything, but I gave 'em all a try. Cleaned house about 4 years ago, with the exception of my first cur dog, and went to straight Kemmers. Not saying that they are the best hog dogs in the world, but they sure suit me and my needs. But at the end of the day, what should matter the most is not what breed of dog it is but that it's owner takes pride in owning it.
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« Reply #35 on: August 30, 2011, 04:47:15 pm » |
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i just got done starting over ... I HOPE lol
i found a family of dogs that suited my needs ( except hunting too deep sometimes ) and am running with it .
1 bad cow or boar hog and i could be starting over again ! but at least now i know where not to start !
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« Reply #36 on: August 30, 2011, 06:24:20 pm » |
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I wouldn't do it the way I have the first go round! I would find someone who is using their stock/hunting dogs that fit the style I like on a weekly or preferrably a daily basis. I would then work my tail end off for them, beg, bribe, and do whatever I had to until I got the chance to buy a pup or two from them. I would then raise them up the way I wanted them to be raised, and hunt the fire out of them when they got old enough. I would have a base to go off of then, and earn the respect of my peers by having quality, not quantity.
I did that and all I got was leftovers. I want the whole litter to play with. Catching hogs regular with what I got just want to breed my own. At this time I am leaning towards a proven deep cast cur/hound cross with lots of stay. Less vet bills and hopefully a better % of hunting dogs. If I can't shorten the race I want dogs that go yonder and bay for hours if need be; if I'm lucky they'll be runnin' miles and miles if need be. I have found it difficult to carry weight on my heart when a pup was built up only to have DYSPLASIA or lack of want to; so this is where I'm at. Not starting over; trying to get started now.
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« Reply #37 on: August 30, 2011, 07:13:14 pm » |
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I wouldn't do it the way I have the first go round! I would find someone who is using their stock/hunting dogs that fit the style I like on a weekly or preferrably a daily basis. I would then work my tail end off for them, beg, bribe, and do whatever I had to until I got the chance to buy a pup or two from them. I would then raise them up the way I wanted them to be raised, and hunt the fire out of them when they got old enough. I would have a base to go off of then, and earn the respect of my peers by having quality, not quantity.
I did that and all I got was leftovers. I want the whole litter to play with. Catching hogs regular with what I got just want to breed my own. At this time I am leaning towards a proven deep cast cur/hound cross with lots of stay. Less vet bills and hopefully a better % of hunting dogs. If I can't shorten the race I want dogs that go yonder and bay for hours if need be; if I'm lucky they'll be runnin' miles and miles if need be. I have found it difficult to carry weight on my heart when a pup was built up only to have DYSPLASIA or lack of want to; so this is where I'm at. Not starting over; trying to get started now. Shankem Keeping the whole litter is good but you can test the pups and cut down right away and this will save you some cash. also can run a few long range dogs with a few short range dogs that don't have much nose but are super rough and will make every step the long range dogs will make. I see where you have a mtn cur. Mtn Cur crossed with pit will create a few hard hunting rcd's that do not bark but hunt and find hogs. I would try to get that down to 1/4 pit.
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog... A hunting dog is born not made...
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« Reply #38 on: August 30, 2011, 09:23:01 pm » |
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Keeping the whole litter is good but you can test the pups and cut down right away and this will save you some cash.  also can run a few long range dogs with a few short range dogs that don't have much nose but are super rough and will make every step the long range dogs will make. I see where you have a mtn cur. Mtn Cur crossed with pit will create a few hard hunting rcd's that do not bark but hunt and find hogs. I would try to get that down to 1/4 pit.  [/quote] At what age do you test pups? Test for tracking or catching? Winding? This is why I'm not breeding her for awhile. 
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« Reply #39 on: August 30, 2011, 09:53:38 pm » |
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i would use nothing but campbell curs from georgia. i've had four and won't hunt nothing else.
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