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« on: August 30, 2011, 10:29:30 pm » |
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Would be interested to know how you cull your pups. Thanks
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waylon-N.E. OK
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« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2011, 10:30:52 pm » |
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Scott that's a taboo topic. Most folks do it the same way we do  Some spay and then give them away as pet's but most don't.
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« Last Edit: August 30, 2011, 10:33:38 pm by waylon-N.E. OK »
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NMartin
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« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2011, 10:33:27 pm » |
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yeah i don't think that should be a topic on a public forum 
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tmatt
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« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2011, 10:35:34 pm » |
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Don't really feel that the WWW is the best place to discuss that. Jmho
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Be who you are and say what you mean because those that mind don't matter and those that matter don't mind.
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waylon-N.E. OK
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« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2011, 10:42:12 pm » |
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Scott check you messages, there listed by the Home Help Seach Profile bar above
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djhogdogger
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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2011, 10:50:43 pm » |
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If you are asking how to choose which ones to keep and which ones not to keep...... I personally would wait until they are old enough to try on a hog, about 4 months old. Some people cull earlier but I like to see how they react the first time they encounter a hog. Then at around 6 to 7 months, take them to the woods with an older finished dog to see if they will get out and hunt or not. That is how I cull. Hope this helps. 
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tnhillbilly
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« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2011, 11:01:37 pm » |
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What Dinah said........
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tmatt
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« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2011, 11:08:24 pm » |
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Maybe I read too much into the question, lol. Great answer dj.
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SCHitemHard
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« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2011, 11:22:04 pm » |
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how bout you change the question to "What to look for in a cull?"
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Matt H Cleveland, OH
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« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2011, 11:25:47 pm » |
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i think his way of asking is fine . i think some of us just jumped straight to the end of the process! thats a level head DJ keep us straight.
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tmatt
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« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2011, 11:27:41 pm » |
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Always need a female to keep us straight! Lol
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Be who you are and say what you mean because those that mind don't matter and those that matter don't mind.
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waylon-N.E. OK
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« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2011, 11:30:46 pm » |
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Ok maybe your asking what will you cull a pup/dog for Scott? if so my bad. just didn't understand by the title if that is what your asking
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Noah
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« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2011, 02:02:40 pm » |
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I either like them or I don't... simple as that
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make-em-squeel
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« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2011, 04:36:12 pm » |
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I expect to see something or some greatness by 12 mo old but dont expect it consistantly (perfer it to be) but Ive seen a lot of great 2-3 yr old dogs that showed good stuff in the woods at a young age but kind of petered out or were not consistantly good until 2 yoa.
I also make sure that a dog is comfortable with the pack and people in the woods before judging the dog to hard. ((My finished 4 yr old dog didnt hunt or bay well when he was 6-9 mo old around other dominant males or loud people in the woods))
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« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2011, 04:37:41 pm » |
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"How you evaluate" seems so much better for the WWW.
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"To me it is not always about the game you caught, but the memories you can't let go of.  " Josh Farnsworth
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Reuben
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« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2011, 07:11:28 pm » |
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"How you evaluate" seems so much better for the WWW.
x2...I like raising the whole litter for a little while. I test them for winding and locating at about 8 weeks old. I do this several times a week for several weeks. I start them close up and then increase the distance. I then test a few times on trailing. I am constantly observing for pups that are natural winders, trailers and locators, also looking for the negatives like overly dominant or hyper behavior. I then test to see if I have a natural bay dog or how much exposer the pup needs to make him bay or work. I like smart pups that learn easily or are born to do it naturally. I also try not to pick a shy or hyper pup. at 3-1/2 months to 4 months I test the pups for natural free casting. I look for a pup that circles and not runs out in straight lines. At about 3 months I cull down to six pups at 4-5 months I cull down to 4 pups at 6-7 months I try to cull to 3 pups but might hang on a little longer... the longer I hang on to the pups before culling, the better they usually are. When I say cull I mean that they are not making the cut for me but it does not mean that they will not make good hunting dogs. I am trying to select the very best from the litter because that is the only way I know how to improve a strain/breed of dogs...
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog... A hunting dog is born not made...
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« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2011, 07:18:47 pm » |
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Reuben,
That sounds like solid advice. Thank you for sharing.
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"To me it is not always about the game you caught, but the memories you can't let go of.  " Josh Farnsworth
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make-em-squeel
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« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2011, 07:41:41 pm » |
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"How you evaluate" seems so much better for the WWW.
x2...I like raising the whole litter for a little while. I test them for winding and locating at about 8 weeks old. I do this several times a week for several weeks. I start them close up and then increase the distance. I then test a few times on trailing. I am constantly observing for pups that are natural winders, trailers and locators, also looking for the negatives like overly dominant or hyper behavior. I then test to see if I have a natural bay dog or how much exposer the pup needs to make him bay or work. I like smart pups that learn easily or are born to do it naturally. I also try not to pick a shy or hyper pup. at 3-1/2 months to 4 months I test the pups for natural free casting. I look for a pup that circles and not runs out in straight lines. At about 3 months I cull down to six pups at 4-5 months I cull down to 4 pups at 6-7 months I try to cull to 3 pups but might hang on a little longer... the longer I hang on to the pups before culling, the better they usually are. When I say cull I mean that they are not making the cut for me but it does not mean that they will not make good hunting dogs. I am trying to select the very best from the litter because that is the only way I know how to improve a strain/breed of dogs... WOW when I am rich and hunting for a living I want to have the time to do this....If anyone looks up how Paul T Garden (Silverton boar dogs) starts and culls pups its well worth the read
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shankem
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« Reply #18 on: August 31, 2011, 07:51:47 pm » |
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"How you evaluate" seems so much better for the WWW.
x2...I like raising the whole litter for a little while. I test them for winding and locating at about 8 weeks old. I do this several times a week for several weeks. I start them close up and then increase the distance. I then test a few times on trailing. I am constantly observing for pups that are natural winders, trailers and locators, also looking for the negatives like overly dominant or hyper behavior. I then test to see if I have a natural bay dog or how much exposer the pup needs to make him bay or work. I like smart pups that learn easily or are born to do it naturally. I also try not to pick a shy or hyper pup. at 3-1/2 months to 4 months I test the pups for natural free casting. I look for a pup that circles and not runs out in straight lines. At about 3 months I cull down to six pups at 4-5 months I cull down to 4 pups at 6-7 months I try to cull to 3 pups but might hang on a little longer... the longer I hang on to the pups before culling, the better they usually are. When I say cull I mean that they are not making the cut for me but it does not mean that they will not make good hunting dogs. I am trying to select the very best from the litter because that is the only way I know how to improve a strain/breed of dogs... Thank You, Thank You, Thank You! 
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Reuben
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« Reply #19 on: August 31, 2011, 09:26:32 pm » |
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Thank you all for your kind words. I used to be secretive about how I selected and bred dogs and very few hunters got any of my pups... and now my thinking and my way of doing things has changed. 
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog... A hunting dog is born not made...
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