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[bob]

I agree , I should have not showed my rear and also he will not wait my table , and aint no gay dude going to keep me out of my favorite diner

[make-em-squeel]

Haa this has turned out to be quite entertaining  Grin or barf....its a fine line

Sin is Sin, I'm no better than anyone but some is just harder to picture and except for us rednecks

[charles]

 why stop speakn ur piece? its ur right to say how u feel, utilize ur rights b4 they r gone. if soe1 has thin skin, then of freakn well. grow a thickr layer or end ur life. to many butt hurt folks nowdays.

[Swine-Stalker]

why stop speakn ur piece? its ur right to say how u feel, utilize ur rights b4 they r gone. if soe1 has thin skin, then of freakn well. grow a thickr layer or end ur life. to many butt hurt folks nowdays.

While everyone is speaking their peace... I was raised to never swing from the other side of the plate, never go to bat for the other team and never dabble in mud with other men... ewww, I just threw up in my mouth. With that being said I would like to apologize for a whole generation which I was born right in the middle of. I feel that it was those born around the early to late 80's that put homosexuality in TV, movies and in public, which in turn helped everyone else join to push it main stream. When you say

Our country has turned into a bunch of sheep

That is the winning answer. The rectal rangers have some sort of weird heterosexually challenged pride going on but they stick together to get what they want. Is straight pride to common to fight for? Is the good book too much to fight for? As long as we cower down to everything that isn't right and is unjust, it will keep happening. How long before all burgers are made of soy? How long before all meats are made of by-products and tofu? One day someone will take a stand but until then they will keep picking us apart community by community and state by state.

The main thing that aggravated me is I worked for a company who had set rules on insurance dependents (one man one woman and kids). A few years later I was helping out a buddy by getting him hired. He had a child out of wed-lock and was still with the girl but not married. After 90 days he was able to get health insurance. He got insurance on him and his child but was not able to get insurance on the mother of his child. BUT!!! There was and is a section on the form where you can get insurance on your life partner. RIDICULOUS!!!

Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them"

So raise your pistols but not the meat pistol... they might want to play

[jdt]

right on swine stalker .

   my biggest concern is the agenda that keeps pushin this crap in our faces and trying to brainwash our society and my kids into acceptance and condoning .... and who all is pushing this agenda ? seems to be more than just the heterosexually challengedgets and lesbians .

[J.Prince]

I am just curious here. I am not supporting homosexuality, in anyway, but I would like to ask a couple questions for folks who hate the homos so passionately. Personally I don't agree with it, but as long as you keep it away from me its your business. My main question here is it really the unholiness that you guys despise, or is it just the fact that its two dudes together? For example, if you were out to eat somewhere and there was a waitress who was a smoking hot lesbian would you refuse her service, or would it be ok be cause she is a homosexual woman? Example 2: you have two friends you have known equally as long are complete equals when it comes to your friendship. One is married, one is single. The single friend comes to you one day and says he just wants to let you know he has come to terms with it and ready to come out and admit that he is gay. Your married friend comes to you a while later and tells you he cheated on his wife. What do you do? Do you disban your friendship with both of them because both of them have commited serious sins? Or do you just stop being friends with the gay one cause he is a queer now, and your married friend gets a pass cause what the heck it's just adultery. Or do they both get a pass cause its your friends and not someone else? I guess what i'm trying to get at is... is every sin not equal? Does homosexuality carry a heavier punishment than adultery, murder, or stealing? I know personally I am not going to hate someone because of who they love. And as a christian aren't we suppose to except others and their flaws? If someone can murder someone, then apologize, and give himself to the lord, and worship the lord until the day he dies, and then get into heaven it is hard for me to believe that all the homosexual ppl are going to hell because they happen to love someone of the same sex. So what it boils down to, to me is if you want to hate someone for being gay ok then hate them but I don't think its right to say it is because god would want you to hate them. I know the god I pray to at night would want me to forgive them for their sins, and try to help them. And if you are gonna look down on someone for their sins than look down on everyone equal because everyone has sinned and we can't put a different weight or punishment on different sins. Once again I am not supporting homosexuality I am just trying to show a different point here, because sometimes we allow ourselves to become to judgmental and look past things we choose to look past.

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[tnhillbilly]

Very good post, but unless they repent and change their evil ways, then yes, they are all going to hell according to the bible. But you make a very good point, no sin is greater than another. Sin is sin. Period!
And its not just the homosexual that twist the scriptures to suit their lifstyles. 
Galations 5:16-21
Romans 10:9-13
Romans 8:1-2
John 12:47
1 Corinthians 6:9-11
James 1:26
1 John 4:20 hate the sin not the sinner.

[Purebreedcolt]

I'm afraid to post but yes the guy would no longer be associated with.  Now I am against the lesbians but they do not tick me off like guys do.  my wife is just opposite she can't stand lesbians but is ok with gay guys.  I'm sorry there is just something wrong with them and I think it should be a crime any way about it punishable by send to the moon or somewhere.

[Swine-Stalker]

I may have strayed a little from the topic... JDT was complaining about seeing them two colon cowboys on the TV. The problem is that they are showing rectal wranglers on tv, and movies. Just like they released the movie brokeback mountain. No one wanted to see Jake Gyllenhaal ride the two legged pony. The stuff is there whether we like it or not. Things like this, drugs, fornication, adultery and many other morally and biblically wrong actions have been pushed onto our TV as acceptable things to watch. Just like how certain curse words have recently been allowed in pg movies and you can show a boob but not a nipple on pg13 movies. Certain things should be left up to us parents to be able to let our child see... not left up to us to work our tails off to hide from them. I am also sure that JDT would not watch the show cheaters with his kids then high 5 when the spouse gets cheated on.


You make a valid point J.Prince and all of it is wrong but to answer that I would have to be put in that situation but I can tell you one thing . If he is my friend and is thinking about coming out of the closet... he better stay in if he wants to stay friends. It is the openly and publicly that I don't like... It just don't sit right

[charles]

 this country is full of sheep. a lot are blind or dont give a hoot bout the truth, as long as it doesnt have a personal and direct impact on them. as to all the questions. they women are just as wrong as them men, i could care less for either 1. i usually stay to myself as long as they dont push their beliefs upon me, but it is getting out of control and their aint enuf of the good ole' people left that will stand up and speak out against it, but it is also hard to fight against it when the info concerning the issues are left in a blanket of darkness and secrecy untill it to late to make a differance. homos are homos. o matter is they are a split tail or pole climber.

[tnhillbilly]

I aint worth a dime at sayin whats on my mind, j.Prince speaks the truth, but I also see where jdt is coming from, its not just t
Hating or judging them for being that way. It has alot to do with them tryin to shove their lifestyles down everybody's throat, I think is what has alot of people upset the most. Like teaching our kids that its natural, and acceptable. But yet its not acceptable to say one nation under GOD, or to have prayer in school.
Its acceptable to have homosexual on every tv channel, and take the LORDS name in vein, but did you know they are not allowed to say JESUS?
I think im just going to stop right there, I cant possibly type everything thats going thru my mind right now, and it would probly come out wrong anyway.

[T-Bob Parker]

Easy peasy guys, lets not start a weenie roast just yet. There are gays and recovering gays at my church, and if you really knew the truth there's probably a few at yours. Being in a pastoral role has more negatives so far in my experience, not that I'm complaining, but I have to hear things that make my face as red as my neck fairly often. Let me say this, homosexuality is a sin. So is lying, disrespect of your parents and so on. If your going to believe the bible, then believe it in its fullness, Gods word tells us that no one is righteous and the entirety of humanity has come up short of his standard of perfection. God sees each and every one of us as culls deserving of the bonepile if we are left to open devices. His word says the penalty for our sin is death. fortunately, in his love for us he provided a way for all of us regardless of our sin de jour to measure up to his standard. He said that through faith in the death and resurrection of his one and only son, that we may be made new creations. We can shed our filth and put on the righteousness of Christ.

Two parting thoughts

You can't love God enough. 1 John 4:10

Don't mistreat other culls because you think you are less cull worthy John 8:1-11

[J.Prince]

I respect everyone's thoughts and am not trying to push beliefs on anyone else. Like I said I don't agree with it either. It is difficult to type exactly the point I am trying to convey. I suppose the gist of it is that it is important to keep an open mind, and try to be careful of passing judgement in general not neccesarily just towards homosexuality. Swine stalker I am not picking on you but I just want to know. You say the gay friend better keep it to himself, what about the other friend? Do you want the gay guy to keep ut to himself because its gross, or because it is unholy? I guess I got a bit off topic as well I do agree that homosexuality and such nonsense should not be pushed upon everyone like it is these days, but christianity is pushed upon others just as well so how can we say they can not express their thoughts and beliefs but we can? Its our right living in this country to believe what we choose to believe that is one of the main reason this nation was founded was so we could choose our beliefs and not have them forced upon us. I also saw the show and they never said they were partners or anything. We just assumed their gay. Thats part of my point I don't think we should be so quick to pass judgement. My wife has a uncle who is a hair stylist which is what the assumed gay man on the show was.  And he is as straight and tough as they come an if someone was to pass the wrong judgement on him for his career choice they could be in for a rude awakening. I apologize for offending anyone's religious beliefs that was not my intention.
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[Swine-Stalker]

It is a little of both but also a little deeper than that. Also, I have been involved with the other side of your question on a couple occurences. Almost lost a best friend to adultery, but to stop speculation before it starts I was involved but not with the adultery part. I do not care to elaborate. I see both as bad just one bothers me more. I guess it was just part of my upbringing. With that being said, you and tbob have both made very good points along with tom. I humbly decide to bow out of this one. I will keep reading though because I am always eager to learn more about the word.

[dub]

While I have my opinions on homosexuality they are my opinions. Nobody asked to be offended on either side so I will kepp them. But I don't care if you think being gay is a choice or not displaying it is a choice. I don't walk around smooching my wife in front of other people. I worked with at least one gay guy without knowing it. When I did find out I did not have any problem with him. I can't stand drama from a gay or straight person. I can't stand prissy people no matter who they sleep with. I also do not like the gay political agenda. That is completly different than the people. Tolerance means I tolerate you, not agree or even like you. I don't like myself sometimes so why should I be expected to like other people. I am told to love my neighbor not like my neighbor. But I should treat eveyone with the love that Christ showed. People love to say "let he who is without sin cast the first stone." But he told the woman to "go and sin no more."

It seems to me the vocal gay people want people to tell them what they are doing is ok. I hunt and kill animals and I am not asking anyone to tell me it is ok. I personally think the vocal gay people have an internal strugle with God because God's law is laid in everyone's heart. Their problem is not with me it is between them and God. So I should show love but I do not have to accept their choices as ok.

I have looked at many armored cars and thought about how to rob them. But I have never taken any action at all to do it. Why because when I think through it I know that people could die and no matter what it would be wrong to steal. I sometimes think about lots of things I would never do. While I do not look at guys and think about gay stuff that does not mean I don't understand not doing something I want to do. I have thought many times about hurting people that really deserved it. I really wanted to do it too. But I believe in right and wrong.

I know I was not a nice person before God changed my heart. But that change happened because I prayed over and over because I knew that I did not know how to change. So I would tell anyone with an internal strugle to pray without ceasing, and seek God with all your heart. None of us can be perfect. All sin condems all of us. Just because we do not have the same sins does not mean that anyone of is further from God because of it. But only Jesus can take the punishment from us. None of us are being nailed to a cross or sent to hell for anyone's sin but our own. I think we should all spend more time looking at our own sin instead of looking at others.

It is when we see our own sin and what Jesus did for us that we can love others. I think that was one of the things Jesus tried to show us.

What right do you have to hate the person that Jesus loved enough to die for?

[tnhillbilly]

dud, I couldn't agree more, very well said.

[lapdog]

interesting t-bob thats the first time ive heard of a recovering gay. I tell you what you learn somethin new everyday. lol

[Reuben]

I don't care what gays do behind closed doors. And Broke Back Mtn can go broke and it should have but it didn't... apparently quite a few people went to see it and they say that 10% of the population is gay and I wonder how many more percentages for bi-sexual which in my book is still gay.

I also believe that gays are born that way and can not help that...However, I do not want to accept it in school, television etc. etc. They can keep it in the closet.

Having said that... because we are talking about percentages in our population it is very possible to have a child or grandchild that could be born gay...So do we cull him/her or love them and try to show them a different way?  I am sure we would do a lot of praying and worrying for them because they are our children and we love them unconditionally.


I see gays coming out of the closet as wrong because it says in the good book it is wrong and personally I believe that we should not accept it as normal or right... I see it as one more thing that is eroding away our society as it should be.

As a kid I heard how good the movie "Gone With The Wind"was and I suspect it had something to do with when the leading character said the famous words "FRANKLY MY DEAR I DON"T GIVE A DAM".

In the mid 1960's I went to see a cowboy movie at the theater, and of course the leading character said the SOB word once  and everyone went to see the movie mainly to see him say that word... Twenty five cents for the movie, five cents for the drink and 5 cents for the popcorn. :)but I worked for free in the cotton field...

I reckon that is how society tends to break down... It happens very slowly and before we know it, we have those type of words in the movies from beginning to finish and then it becomes the norm... and then we see it in the afternoon sitcoms (primetime) when the kids are watching...

Same thing with nudity and adultury....Sex and violence sells so what do we do??? We can start by not buying in to it and if there is no market for it... it goes away...

We teach our kids not to curse yet we sit in front of the big screen and laugh at all the vulgar jokes that the comedian is telling us...we are sending mixed signals to our children...So we can start by looking at ourselves first...because we make up this great country...and I want it to stay great...

[charles]

 reuben u hav some good points, but i find it really hard to believe they are born gay. if the child is brought up in or very near gays, the chances of that child turning gay is very high, but the child was not born gay. that would be the same as a person born being a theif or murderer, the dna strands dont hav gay, theif or murder stands in the. a prime exaple would be to take a child born to a hetero couple and then 1 of them was bi/gay, if u took the child from the gay lifestyle even though he/she was born with a gay parent, with enuf proper upbringing, the child half an extreely low chance of becoming gay. born with it is a cop-out or a cheap excuse to ot adit their screwd up in the head

[muleman]

I think they are born that way too. Some of them anyway. I personally knew a kid that at age 9 I told my wife he would be a homo when he grew up. He had no family members that were gay and was not around it at all. Sure enough, as a grown man he is gay. He couldn't act "not gay" if he wanted to. I think they are just wired wrong. I do think there are people who choose to do those things as well. Any 40 + year old homo did not grow up thinking it was ok to be a homo.