Knowing a dogs trashing

[yellowdogman]

Just wondering if you more experienced hog hunters know when a dog is trashing a deer, for example in east Texas in the dense woods. Can you tell if a dog is running a deer without seeing it? And if you can how?

[Reuben]

my vote is to never never push the button until absolutely sure...I never could tell for sure unless I saw the deer or the dog that never lies comes back with his head and tail down.

[dub]

Garmin. That is how you know. I was with someone that thought the dog trashed on deer. We chased and got close to make sure and then he zapped the dog. You should know your dogs. I have one that I never ever worry about. I will know if your dog is trashing because will run up right beside me and look up like saying, "I did not do it and had nothing to do with it." But most dogs respond reasonbly well to trash breaking. You have some the are hard headed and some that find something they really like to chase. I have seen many really good dogs that only trash on skunks. If the smell don't stop them the shock won't either.

[SwampHunter]

i got one that loves armadillos , if i yell at him an he runs like the wind that means he was jacking with something besides a hog , other than that mine dont usally mess with to much stuff , but when they do they act scared an have tail tucked they tell on there selfs , but i would not shock them till you are sure it was running a deer

[firemedic]

my vote is to never never push the button until absolutely sure...I never could tell for sure unless I saw the deer or the dog that never lies comes back with his head and tail down.

X2.....why risk it if you don't have to....once you shock a dog for ruuning a hog, you can never take it back. It's a pain for your dogs to run a deer or whatever....but not bad enough to risk shocking them for doing right.

[SCHitemHard]

thats why you gotta train em early

[djhogdogger]

 Its hard to know when your dog is trashing on a deer. We can usually tell if its a deer when the dogs cover a mile at record speed and then come back because they got left in the dust. Our dogs figured out that they cant catch a deer or get one to bay up. They usually leave them alone now.

[dub]

Make sure they what to hunt first. If not you ruin a good dog. Then I turn them loose and sit back with a cold drink. When they get too close zap. Don't yell or nothing so that don't know you did it. Other wise they will trash when you are not near.

[blakebh]

 Its hard to know when your dog is trashing on a deer. We can usually tell if its a deer when the dogs cover a mile at record speed and then come back because they got left in the dust. Our dogs figured out that they cant catch a deer or get one to bay up. They usually leave them alone now.

My trashy dogs only run a deer for a few hundred yards then come back pretty quick. We know their on a hog if they get out there and stay hooked for awhile.

[YELLOWBLACKMASK]

Try some throw outs with your younger dogs before they hit the woods or an old dog reminder. Collar up and find some deer throw them out on them. _If they attempt anything besides what they should run em back to the box with your zapper. You will probably get more invites if you take the extra time to proof your youngsters.  Nobody likes goin with somebody that let's them run whatever without correction due to messing up their hard work with their dogs.

Its easy and works well.

Just try not to have the 22 mag in the truck while your lookin.     

[Reuben]

Try some throw outs with your younger dogs before they hit the woods or an old dog reminder. Collar up and find some deer throw them out on them. _If they attempt anything besides what they should run em back to the box with your zapper. You will probably get more invites if you take the extra time to proof your youngsters.  Nobody likes goin with somebody that let's them run whatever without correction due to messing up their hard work with their dogs.

Its easy and works well.

Just try not to have the 22 mag in the truck while your lookin.     

x2...if you have access to lots of deer that will work. 


I get my pups to baying hogs and then I use deer scent and a cattle prod. I do this about 3 or 4 different times in a two week period and they are usually deer broke before they get in the woods.  It is harder to break them once they have started that bad habit.

A refresher course might be needed with the prod but usually not needed.

[tnhillbilly]

Ive often wondered this about silent dogs, how can you tell if their running something or just out hunting.

[Sneaky Creek Kennel]

You just gotta know your dog is the main thing.
This time of year it's real simple to trash break off deer.
Go to the deer processing place and ask em to save you a couple of glands off the deer back legs. At my place I have a electric fence so the goats keep their heads outta the fence so I will go around and wire those glands to the electric fence then I'll let my pups run around out in the pasture they will wind the strong smell of the glands and go investigate when they find the glands they will smell of it sometimes bite it and the fence will lite their butts up. Then when you take em to the big woods they smell a deer they are goin the other direction in a hurry.   

[tnhillbilly]

Now I like the sound of that method, let them break themselves

[Reuben]

You just gotta know your dog is the main thing.
This time of year it's real simple to trash break off deer.
Go to the deer processing place and ask em to save you a couple of glands off the deer back legs. At my place I have a electric fence so the goats keep their heads outta the fence so I will go around and wire those glands to the electric fence then I'll let my pups run around out in the pasture they will wind the strong smell of the glands and go investigate when they find the glands they will smell of it sometimes bite it and the fence will lite their butts up. Then when you take em to the big woods they smell a deer they are goin the other direction in a hurry.   

I like what you said...makes good sense to me.

[Sneaky Creek Kennel]

It works I have used this method on several differnt dogs and with a good outcome everytime. The dog has no idea you had anything to do with it cause most of the time it will run straight to you afterwards. I start early with my pups on trash breaking if you start early you will rarely have a problem when the real training starts.

[Reuben]

It works I have used this method on several differnt dogs and with a good outcome everytime. The dog has no idea you had anything to do with it cause most of the time it will run straight to you afterwards. I start early with my pups on trash breaking if you start early you will rarely have a problem when the real training starts.

I agree...gamey pups need breaking from livestock and deer as young pups..

[TexasHogDogs]

If you got a normally silent type dog a quite one and all the sudden he is opening up running a hole in the wind  and getting loud running threw the woods u can almost bet he is trashing on a deer.  Are else if he is doing that and you got a old taddle tale dog in the group a older dog that comes out to your wheeler then you know for sure I got two are three of those taddle tales they will damn near come jump on the wheeler with me when a youngen is messing up like that.

[treeingratterrier]

You just gotta know your dog is the main thing.
This time of year it's real simple to trash break off deer.
Go to the deer processing place and ask em to save you a couple of glands off the deer back legs. At my place I have a electric fence so the goats keep their heads outta the fence so I will go around and wire those glands to the electric fence then I'll let my pups run around out in the pasture they will wind the strong smell of the glands and go investigate when they find the glands they will smell of it sometimes bite it and the fence will lite their butts up. Then when you take em to the big woods they smell a deer they are goin the other direction in a hurry.   

   

Before collars came out we used metarshal deer glands and whole legs by running a hot wire in the back of the kennel where these glands hung off of, when a young dog sniffed or licked the deer gland they would get a shock from the hotwire running thru the deer gland, never had a deer problem because we have so many deer down here to break them off of, I have always wondered if one could hang up armadillos or skunks glands off the wire and break them off as well?

[RBB Roper]

This is a really good post and I have gathered some very use full stuff for my self. knightstockerterrier you get the skunk gland and I've got the dog lol and I know of several hot wires. i'm prolly goin to give that a try myself and see what happens