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« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2011, 07:48:03 pm » |
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I will post my thoughts and see what happens. If the dog is caught for an extended period of time or does not hold clean and more or less fights the pig this will happen more. I think this is where to many people go wrong they have a dog that catches and maybe it does lock down but it stays in front of a hog and takes a beating. One or two cuts yeah ok but if that dog has 20 cut through get you another dog that holds clean. I have to admit I have both one catches and holds the other is a little wild but is young she may and may not make it as a cd. Imo if your dog gets cut repeatedly and lives your vest did its job the cd did not by not holding clean also if it is caught for a extended time you probably did not do your job as a dog hunter minus a broke bay but even then you better get your butt there. Sorry for the long winded post.
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« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2011, 07:52:06 pm » |
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I will post my thoughts and see what happens. If the dog is caught for an extended period of time or does not hold clean and more or less fights the pig this will happen more. I think this is where to many people go wrong they have a dog that catches and maybe it does lock down but it stays in front of a hog and takes a beating. One or two cuts yeah ok but if that dog has 20 cut through get you another dog that holds clean. I have to admit I have both one catches and holds the other is a little wild but is young she may and may not make it as a cd. Imo if your dog gets cut repeatedly and lives your vest did its job the cd did not by not holding clean also if it is caught for a extended time you probably did not do your job as a dog hunter minus a broke bay but even then you better get your butt there. Sorry for the long winded post.
Exactly what I was getting at..... under dog you dont know what your talkin about  Your the one that needs to be wearing one with a floaty built in so when you ride your fourwheeler  |
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The more people I'm around the more I like my dogs !!
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« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2011, 07:53:06 pm » |
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the dog was caught in a gully and took a while to be able to find a place to get to them. Just a bad place to catch a pig
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« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2011, 07:54:23 pm » |
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I will post my thoughts and see what happens. If the dog is caught for an extended period of time or does not hold clean and more or less fights the pig this will happen more. I think this is where to many people go wrong they have a dog that catches and maybe it does lock down but it stays in front of a hog and takes a beating. One or two cuts yeah ok but if that dog has 20 cut through get you another dog that holds clean. I have to admit I have both one catches and holds the other is a little wild but is young she may and may not make it as a cd. Imo if your dog gets cut repeatedly and lives your vest did its job the cd did not by not holding clean also if it is caught for a extended time you probably did not do your job as a dog hunter minus a broke bay but even then you better get your butt there. Sorry for the long winded post.
Exactly what I was getting at..... under dog you dont know what your talkin about Your the one that needs to be wearing one with a floaty built in so when you ride your fourwheeler Floaty hell... he needs a life jacket! We thought he was dead when he rolled off into the rice canal!!! |
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« Reply #24 on: September 28, 2011, 07:56:38 pm » |
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I wasn't going to comment but I can't help it I have a big mouth. I don't personally use UD vests but I have held a good many of them in my hands and they seem to be really well made and my buddies that have them have used the Hell out of them with good success. Fact is there is only a handful materials suited for making vests. It comes down to craftsmanship. I have been fortunate enough to have catch dogs that caught in such a way that I have made it by with inferior vests. I wouldn't hesitate to vest mine with any of the ugly dog vests. Never seen a perfect vest but until someone comes up with a new material they are as good as you can get.
The good thing about our country, everyone is free to buy what they want. If you think they are too high, sit down and make one......it will seem cheap! When I started, we made our vests and cut collars out of leather.
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« Reply #25 on: September 28, 2011, 07:57:30 pm » |
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Nosights I had the same thing happen on a vest I bought. First hunt it got cut in several places. I got mad and called the company didn't do any good. I ended up using the same vest for about eight years and can only remember one other time a dog got cut through it. Sometimes its just gonna happen.
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« Reply #26 on: September 28, 2011, 08:04:20 pm » |
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Why dont yall just do what we did one of the best vest I have seen and it has seen as many rank boars as anybodys vest and its still going strong, had a peice of wet velt sewen on around the chest and part of the sides and underneath. Works great and not to heavy and the dog can still swim fine with it . Just find a good vest a lighter one that is tuff that you like and get it sewed on . Aint that pretty but who gives a damn about pretty its what works that matters just ask you dog. Then if it gets cut threw you got nobody to bitch at but yourself .   |
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« Reply #27 on: September 28, 2011, 08:15:25 pm » |
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Ha ha... sponsorship doesn't have anything to do with it. There's three sponsors on ETHD... WildBoarUSA, Tri-Tronics and Quick-Track. They are sponsors here for a reason, because they all make a quality product that i've used for years... long before ETHD was thought of.
Mike, I just read your response about "sponsors". I had started a thread a couple of months back about "Conkey's Hound Supply". One of the mods deleted it. I had several people including Uglydog inquire about Conkey's after it was deleted. I placed the info on here so others in the sport would know about a hunting dog supply company with a great reputation for outstanding customer service and fair pricing. If it was not deleted because of "sponsorship" differences, why was it deleted? The whole thread was strictly informational. Thank you in advance, Josh |
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« Reply #28 on: September 28, 2011, 08:21:50 pm » |
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Dont get me wrong I understand that cut vests will get cut through from time to time. I understand that Ugly Dog makes a good vest. I just dont like that Ugly Dog wont fix holes in a damn near new 175 dollar vest. Not just holes for that matter a broken strap or a torn off cut collar.
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« Reply #29 on: September 28, 2011, 08:25:52 pm » |
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Nosights I wasn't picking sides and I understand you frustration from that point of view. Personally I wouldn't buy one for that price when I can get one that does as good of a job for half the money.
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« Reply #30 on: September 28, 2011, 09:41:47 pm » |
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Ha ha... sponsorship doesn't have anything to do with it. There's three sponsors on ETHD... WildBoarUSA, Tri-Tronics and Quick-Track. They are sponsors here for a reason, because they all make a quality product that i've used for years... long before ETHD was thought of.
Mike, I just read your response about "sponsors". I had started a thread a couple of months back about "Conkey's Hound Supply". One of the mods deleted it. I had several people including Uglydog inquire about Conkey's after it was deleted. I placed the info on here so others in the sport would know about a hunting dog supply company with a great reputation for outstanding customer service and fair pricing. If it was not deleted because of "sponsorship" differences, why was it deleted? The whole thread was strictly informational. Thank you in advance, Josh Josh, I didn't know you had a post that was deleted or why it was deleted? I offer my sponsors exclusive advertising rights on their products. In other words, no other company selling cut gear can come on here push their product. Members can post links and talk about whatever products they want to, I don't have a problem with that. That's what this forum is all about. I don't know why your post was deleted... post it back up. |
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« Reply #31 on: September 28, 2011, 09:51:04 pm » |
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Dont get me wrong I understand that cut vests will get cut through from time to time. I understand that Ugly Dog makes a good vest. I just dont like that Ugly Dog wont fix holes in a damn near new 175 dollar vest. Not just holes for that matter a broken strap or a torn off cut collar.
I can only speak for my personal experience with uglydog. On one of my devastator vests, the stitching was coming loose on one or two of the straps. I mentioned it to them, and they said to send it back and they would have it fixed. I opted to have a local shop sew some more threads in the straps as it was cheaper than the freight to send it back. I can certainly understand being frustrated with a new vest getting trashed, just don't know why they wouldn't stand behind the product.... |
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« Reply #32 on: September 28, 2011, 09:52:32 pm » |
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Cool Mike. At the time, I just let it ride. My buddy uses a devastator vest on his pit. He really likes it. I've never owned one, but in all fairness, I haven't owned a vest in about 3 seasons. I will add in the pic that started this thread, it appears the stitching is what failed. I relate this to welding. If a weld breaks, it is a poor weld. The material should break elsewhere if the weld is correct. This seam was very likey a "poor weld".
Out of curiosity, where are the devastators sewed at? What state or country? I know the company sells out of Texas, but I want to know where they are made.
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« Reply #33 on: September 28, 2011, 09:57:13 pm » |
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I had a devastator on one of my dogs. He got caught going in and sent flying. I expected a cut dog but no cut on him at all and the vest is still being used today just faded.
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« Reply #34 on: September 28, 2011, 10:02:04 pm » |
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Josh, I'm pretty sure all their vests are made right here in Texas. I don't know who does the sewing.
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« Reply #35 on: September 28, 2011, 10:03:54 pm » |
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I had a devastator on one of my dogs. He got caught going in and sent flying. I expected a cut dog but no cut on him at all and the vest is still being used today just faded.
In fairy hog dog land, Dogos don't get cut catching 300# trophy boars they winded, ran down, and held for 2 hours until their master could get to them. Just saying. |
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« Reply #36 on: September 28, 2011, 10:10:16 pm » |
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Josh, I'm pretty sure all their vests are made right here in Texas. I don't know who does the sewing.
Would Boarmom be the best person on here to verify this Mike? If so, I could PM her. |
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« Reply #37 on: September 28, 2011, 10:11:47 pm » |
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Josh, I'm pretty sure all their vests are made right here in Texas. I don't know who does the sewing.
Would Boarmom be the best person on here to verify this Mike? If so, I could PM her. Yes, she would be the one. |
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« Reply #38 on: September 28, 2011, 10:14:21 pm » |
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I had a devastator on one of my dogs. He got caught going in and sent flying. I expected a cut dog but no cut on him at all and the vest is still being used today just faded.
In fairy hog dog land, Dogos don't get cut catching 300# trophy boars they winded, ran down, and held for 2 hours until their master could get to them. Just saying. It was not a Dogo they never get even get hit  It was on of those gritty Catahahoulas. I just had a vest on him because he was young. He has not got hit like that again. |
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« Reply #39 on: September 28, 2011, 10:32:32 pm » |
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when I called them about some custom cut collars maybe a year and a half ago the lady told me they didnt make them there. I am almost 100% certain she said they had a company sewing them in South Carolina. That actually makes sense now as for the being the reason they dont do repairs.
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