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« on: October 17, 2011, 04:25:06 pm » |
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I have a dog who is about 11 months old who will constantly bark, whine, and yip when ever he sees me. Either outside of the pen or from the dog box. He wears a bark collar constantly and will still bark here and there but will whine a lot even with it on.
After I am out of site for a few minutes he goes silent.
This is extremely irritating especially if he is in the box and I am within sight for a while. The only other thing I can think of is a bullet in the head or a remote collar with a higher setting.
Has anyone had a dog like this and fixed it? Opinions & advice welcomed. I would hate to get rid of him. Thanks
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« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2011, 04:34:46 pm » |
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tune him up with a rubber hose when he does that number 2 he will get the picture pretty fast
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« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2011, 04:59:52 pm » |
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tune him up with a rubber hose when he does that number 2 he will get the picture pretty fast
HAHA, good description of technique...  I typically use a crispy palm branch to knock on one with... the noise from it smacking them in the head is a better detterent than even a baseball bat... Man that chit really pisses me off too...  .... Takes time to get that out of a dog... usually the ones that want to hunt the most do it because you left them at the truck... so I don't hold it against them too much... I'd probably do the same thing  |
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T-Bob Parker
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« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2011, 05:31:41 pm » |
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Spend some time with him if you think he's worth it, you need to invest enough time in him that he understands your NO means NO.
Time+ consistency= sucsess
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« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2011, 06:26:22 pm » |
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Spend some time with him if you think he's worth it, you need to invest enough time in him that he understands your NO means NO.
Time+ consistency= sucsess
well said . and ya agood remote shocksystem !consistant verbal command . dont tell them "HUSH " this time and "SHUT UP "next time !!! good luck! |
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« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2011, 07:21:43 pm » |
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Spend some time with him if you think he's worth it, you need to invest enough time in him that he understands your NO means NO.
Time+ consistency= sucsess
That is good advise. And it works that's how t bobs women keeps him in line! |
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« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2011, 07:29:23 pm » |
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Dad gum right. I still having trouble with the toilet seat though  |
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« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2011, 07:40:27 pm » |
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Dad gum right. I still having trouble with the toilet seat though years ago I told my wife that when she used the toilet to just leave the seat anyway she wanted and I would do the same...works great for us...   |
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« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2011, 07:55:16 pm » |
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Dad gum right. I still having trouble with the toilet seat though years ago I told my wife that when she used the toilet to just leave the seat anyway she wanted and I would do the same...works great for us... Hahaha Im gunna have to try that and see how it turns out for me |
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« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2011, 08:01:16 pm » |
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Spend some time with him if you think he's worth it, you need to invest enough time in him that he understands your NO means NO.
Time+ consistency= sucsess
Well said T-Bob! That is the best thing that can be done for the dog. All of the whipping in the world is pointless if the dog don't understand/know what you want. |
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« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2011, 08:01:51 pm » |
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I always say "get out" whenever I schold a dog, I really like to use my sons Red Ryder! And any time I say "get out" they may not what they are doing wrong, but they dang sure stop!
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« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2011, 08:34:12 pm » |
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Spend some time with him if you think he's worth it, you need to invest enough time in him that he understands your NO means NO.
Time+ consistency= sucsess
Well said T-Bob! That is the best thing that can be done for the dog. All of the whipping in the world is pointless if the dog don't understand/know what you want. x2 on the time and consistency... |
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
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« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2011, 08:59:12 pm » |
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I always say "get out" whenever I schold a dog, I really like to use my sons Red Ryder! And any time I say "get out" they may not what they are doing wrong, but they dang sure stop!
I am not sure I like that approach, I prefer to be a little more direct with my training and the commands I use during training. What if I want the dog to get out and quit barking, or what if I just want the dog to get out, how do they know what to do? |
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Be who you are and say what you mean because those that mind don't matter and those that matter don't mind.
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« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2011, 09:04:35 pm » |
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It's weird but my dogs know I mean business when I start cussing at them. Untill then sometimes they just keep their crap up. They have learned the order 1, hush 2. shut up gd or mf 3. bust out the hot shot. |
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"You don't need more dogs, just better one's.!!!" --- my Dad lol
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« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2011, 09:14:54 pm » |
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It's weird but my dogs know I mean business when I start cussing at them. Untill then sometimes they just keep their crap up. They have learned the order 1, hush 2. shut up gd or mf 3. bust out the hot shot. HAHA, it's like lookin' at myself in the mirror!!! |
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« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2011, 09:18:51 pm » |
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In all seriousness, a mentoring great trainer friend of mine quoted a great ex-president's line to me once... "speak softly, but carry a big stick"(Teddy Roosevelt).... PROFOUND statement when you truly understand it.... pertaining to dog training and all aspects of life for that matter...
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« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2011, 09:31:55 pm » |
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Get out may not be the best, but it stops all the s##t!, and works for the amount of time I can spend with them, but thats not to say I not open to learn more!
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Reuben
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« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2011, 05:13:15 am » |
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Two things I have learned that I use for training/discipling dogs. One is that they fear or respond to a deep voice...Probably associate it with more testosterone and/or a larger animal etc...either way they seem to respect that...
The other... I read a small article years ago and someone had made this observation and it sounded logical to me...I then started observing and have put it to use...works for dogs of all ages...If you watch the mama dog when she starts weaning her pups she will nip her pups rather sharply and the pup runs off screaming bloody murder but no blood...The mama dog lost her cool for a split second but did not give chase...the pup does not fear mom but respects her and learns to watch and gives her her space...
An example; around the food bowl, when she eats she will growl at the pups and if one tries to creep in she will nip at him and send him on his way. The pup learns to keep his distance and watches and maybe gets closer always watching mama to see if he can come in and feed...Once mama backs up a little the pups move in to feed because that is her way of giving permission.
One thing for sure...she is consistent...the pups usually ask for foregiveness but will not attempt the wrongdoing again unless she gives permission.
SO ANY BEHAVIOR I DO NOT LIKE IN A GROWN DOG I CONSISTENTLY BREAK/WORK ON THAT BEHAVIOR STARTING AT PUPPYHOOD. WE MUST BE CONSISTENT AND THE PUPPY OR DOG MUST TRUST YOU. THE DOG SHOULD KNOW THAT YOU LIKE HIM BUT NOT THE OFFENSIVE BEHAVIOR...
I used to train dobermans and airedales to sit , stay, heel and all the bull that goes with that and as I got older and didn't have the time I realized all I needed was a dog with a tolerable behavior and that is all I really care about...
The commands I use are: GET BACK, BACK, GET OUTA THERE, NO, COME HERE, LOAD UP, PST GET AHEAD, pst git em boy...and usually a hand signal to go along with the voice command...and sometimes "KENNEL" but usually use food for that one.
another example; I am working in the back yard and one of the dogs commits a minor offense and I give a good tap on the head and say "NO" in a stern voice...The dog backs up or I take a few steps toward him and he will circle away from me. I see that he licks his upper lip ( licking upper lip is a submissive gesture), and I turn away and am getting busy doing what I was doing. The dog comes up to me and I extend my hand and let the dog lick it and all is well (I gave forgiveness)...
I do use the red ryder to reach out and touch them when they want to bark and am consistent with it until the dogs learn...
You know your discipline method is working if you see results and the dogs still like you, trust and respect you...real simple when we are consistent and time it right without overdoing it...
Again these are observations I have made and I am not saying it is the only way or even the right way for you but it works for me. I like keeping it simple...
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
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« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2011, 09:05:08 am » |
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I do use the red ryder to reach out and touch them when they want to bark and am consistent with it until the dogs learn...
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My dad use to do the same until I asked him to stop. I walked into a bay with my 357 rifle and when the dogs saw it they started backing out slowly.
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"You don't need more dogs, just better one's.!!!" --- my Dad lol
"Life is tough, it's even tougher when your stupid!!!." The John Wayne
"Be good, or be good at it!!!"
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« Reply #19 on: October 18, 2011, 09:35:20 am » |
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I do use the red ryder to reach out and touch them when they want to bark and am consistent with it until the dogs learn...
My dad use to do the same until I asked him to stop. I walked into a bay with my 357 rifle and when the dogs saw it they started backing out slowly. [/quote] ours will leave out like scalded dogs... I use a cap pistol to call the pups at feeding time and it works. I use a 22 mag now but used to carry a 22 lr. |
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
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