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« on: November 15, 2011, 01:14:02 pm »

i talk to a land owner the other day. and he gave me and a buddy permission to start hunting his land. and that the neighbors would want the same thing done. removing the hogs off the land. we told him we will let him know when we cum to hunt. and will give him sum meat.he said thats fine. he said the hogs get bad in the winter time. lots of bottoms. but then he says  he already has sum guys doing the same thing. running dogs  supose to be catchin hogs but nevere sees them with any. and that they they dont ever catch anything. also that his  neighbor has seen them on the back of there land. but he never sees them or hears of them gettin hogs off the land.. he told us to go ahead and start but just let him know..  im not good with that area. but i know its alot of bottoms. and the hogs are there..    should we just start hunting.  and wait until we bump into the other guys that  hunt there. or should we wait afew weeks or what.. i know the hogs are there. and the land owner said we can run our dogs..
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« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2011, 01:17:44 pm »

Id go ahead an hunt jus keep an eye out for the other guys an keep a check on ur dogs if possible. The other guys gotta be parkin somewhere so u should know if they are there or not.
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« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2011, 01:23:48 pm »

Well if it were me i wouldn't hunt the place at all knowing some else already has permission to hunt the place but that's just me i was taught by the older hog hunters you don't step on another hunters toes jmo
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« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2011, 01:41:56 pm »

I see by your profile that you are 13, let me ask a couple questions.
Did you personally get permission from the OWNER of this property?

If he has others hunting his land, he should know who they are and the basic contact info right?

how are you getting transportation to and from this property. The reason I ask is if your father is involved then he should be able to either speak to the other hunters or make the decision to say, screw it, we got permission, its now our spot.

I applaud you for not wanting to step on toes  and hope this attitude makes you lots of friends gets you plenty of hunting lands. Always remember to be above reproach in all your ways.

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« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2011, 01:47:28 pm »

I would ask the land owner for there number and call them , tell them you have gotten permission , deciede why your talking to them if there the kind of people you would hunt with , ask a few questions ,  do your dogs bark on track ect. you should be able to tell real quick the calabier of hunter , person , dogs they are , if you think your hunting stile fits invite them with ya , if not you have talk to them and maybe they will bring your dog home when you loose it instead of stealing it or worse killing it  JMO.     GOOD LUCK
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« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2011, 01:59:08 pm »

I ran into a similar deal several years ago down in Pearsall, TX .   I had a deer lease, and on the way to the lease I was always passing some center pivot fields of corn, peanuts, etc.  One day I was at the feed store and asked who owned the place. They gave me his information, and I called him.  Super nice guy, had me meet him at one of his fields so he could show me around the place. Turns out he had about 14k acres in Frio county. While he was showing me the place, he mentioned that one other man had permission to hunt the place. First thing I did was find out who the other man was.  Turned out to be Mr Charles Gasch.  As soon as  I got to my truck, I located Mr Gasch's phone number and called him to let him know what had occurred, and that had I known someone was already hunting the place, I never would have pursued it. Mr Gasch was real nice, and said that he never hunted that side of the county, to go ahead and hunt it. He also warned me about one particular neighbor on another field that had shot some dogs in the past.   

I decided to turn out on the pivot with good neighbors...  First hunt out there, I ran into two trucks full of guys and dogs... I won't mention names, but they are members here, and claimed to be hunting that place 2-3 times a week for years. Nothing but a bunch of damn outlaws...   First and last time I ever set foot on that property.  However, due to the way I handled my end of the business, Mr Gasch and I have no problems.

My suggestion is that you figure out who is already hunting the place, and discuss it with them, prior to turning dogs out.
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« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2011, 02:04:27 pm »

You need to talk to the other guys hunting. Number one rule between hog hunters...dont hunt a place already hunted by another hog dogger. If there are issues...get with people and land owner.

It will be you one day in the other position.
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« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2011, 02:11:01 pm »

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    I didn't think that rule existed in central Texas anymore... Shocked
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« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2011, 02:26:10 pm »

Or the rest of Texas for that matter  Tongue
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« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2011, 02:26:41 pm »

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    I didn't think that rule existed in central Texas anymore... Shocked


The land owner rules. That means his rules go, if he said hunt then the other guys cant do nothing and you arent int he wrong at all for hunting there!
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« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2011, 02:27:20 pm »

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    I didn't think that rule existed in central Texas anymore... Shocked

haha Right
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« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2011, 02:30:00 pm »

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    I didn't think that rule existed in central Texas anymore... Shocked


The land owner rules. That means his rules go, if he said hunt then the other guys cant do nothing and you arent int he wrong at all for hunting there!
curdawgs,

   I used to know a couple of backdooring SOB's from Brazoria county that had that same opinion...  Another phrase they liked to drop was "There's plenty of hogs to go around"   Evil
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« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2011, 02:51:27 pm »

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    I didn't think that rule existed in central Texas anymore... Shocked


The land owner rules. That means his rules go, if he said hunt then the other guys cant do nothing and you arent int he wrong at all for hunting there!

And then respect comes into play...
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« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2011, 02:59:01 pm »

I WOULDNT HUNT IT TIL I TALKED WITH THEM. IT AINT BACKDOORIN BUT ID WANT THE OTHER GUY TO CALL ME IF THE TABLES WERE TURNED.
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« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2011, 03:14:21 pm »

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    I didn't think that rule existed in central Texas anymore... Shocked


The land owner rules. That means his rules go, if he said hunt then the other guys cant do nothing and you arent int he wrong at all for hunting there!

It does...and there is a right and wrong way to handle the situation. Ethics has a lot to do with a persons character. I dang sure wouldnt bring you around any of my places. Talking with the landowner and communication is easy and will go a long way.

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It doesnt Im afraid. Especially when they get in on your really good places. Unfortunately there are lots of hog hunters who lack morals or making sound judgement.
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« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2011, 03:20:48 pm »

  Find out who hunts it and talk to them. I wouldn't hunt it with out talking to the other guys,not worth the problems.
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« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2011, 03:23:33 pm »

I have a ranch that a other guy hunts. I go by the land owners rules call b4 u go out and carry your written permission I came up on the other guy 1 night 4 and treated him like a poacher till he showed me his permission he wasn't very happy with me he called the owner and told him wat happened the owner said it was him that didn't follow the rules wat did he expect after things cooled down we exchanged phone # and get along fine even hunt together the best advise I can give u is contact the other guy b 4 u go so he knows u r supposed to b there and treat him like u would like to b treated good luck
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« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2011, 04:09:57 pm »

I think you should get with the other guy too.. It doesnt take much talking to ruin your reputation now days.. Make the other guy mad at you and no telling what you will be labled as.

Chris is the Charles Gasch you spoke of from out around plesington? He is who got me into this hog huntin deal. The wife and I went on a hunt on the Jones Ranch down there for our 10th anniversary...  Grin (she wanted Vegas) Evil just wondering if it was the same guy.
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« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2011, 04:21:30 pm »

Same guy.
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« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2011, 04:23:38 pm »

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    I didn't think that rule existed in central Texas anymore... Shocked


The land owner rules. That means his rules go, if he said hunt then the other guys cant do nothing and you arent int he wrong at all for hunting there!
curdawgs,

   I used to know a couple of backdooring SOB's from Brazoria county that had that same opinion...  Another phrase they liked to drop was "There's plenty of hogs to go around"   Evil

Circle C, Aint no body talkn about back doorin, Boss! We are talking about having permission from the owner. So where did back dooring come into the scene. Did he hunt with the other guys then get the landowners info? if so then it is back dooring. If not then you are only going by permission of the landowner, if he says you should contact them then hammer down and it would be ok to do so but it dont make you a bad person or a crook if the landowner gives you permission and you dont call them.

I definately dont appreciate being called an SOB if you were. Thats disrespectfull and I dont care if you are a medeator. I have never back doored anyone, have always been upfront and in many cases have lost time and money to do the right thing. I have never said anything disrespectfull to anyone on here and dotn expect that from anyone!
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