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« on: November 21, 2011, 06:30:37 pm »

well this has just not been my week! first off my future cd half pit half cur puppy is losing weight and seems to just not eat alot, ive been trying canned food but it will be in the bowl still in the morning shes just skin and bones. Then yesterday my two strike dogs dug out of theyre pen and then dug into the small pig pen and killed my buddies 75 pound boar. my blackjack dog cut his foot on the tin from the bottom to across a toe and wont put his foot down. then today i come back and my other strike dog Buster is limping too (GREAT) so i go in the pen and look at his foot and his toe is swollen up bad and i found one poke in it and he too will not put any pressure on it. heres theyre feet and the poke i found in Busters paw, i dont know what it will take to get weight on my puppy and i sprayed peroxide on blackjacks foot and wrapped it and sprayed busters too but no need for a wrap swelling should go down, not a good week at the pens.






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« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2011, 07:08:06 pm »

that should work for now, i would clean it and maybe some neosporin and some bandages to keep it clean
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« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2011, 07:09:11 pm »

Better get some cephalexin for those two with the cuts general antibiotic for cuts and such pretty cheap insurance talk to your vet and they may fix u up.
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« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2011, 07:27:25 pm »

peroxide will retard the healing process, it is good to use right away on a cut but after that it destroys the new tissue as the body is working on repairing it, Use betadyne and it should help speed up the process.
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« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2011, 07:45:45 pm »

That pup sounds like coccida. If his stool is black looking and you like him id get him to the vet. They don't last long. I lost two. A year and a half ago. Its some bad stuff, first they didn't act like their self then they slowed down on eating and then they completely stopped eating. Took em to the vet but it was too late.
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« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2011, 11:18:00 pm »

HAVE YOUR DOGS EVER BEEN TO VET ? ARE THEY CURRENT ON VACCINES ? HAVE THEY BEEN WORMED ?
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« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2011, 06:22:30 am »

Hey Logan

On your puppy check her teeth. I got a litter mate to her and he is loosing his baby teeth. But Id still keep an eye on her. Good luck man.
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« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2011, 07:11:00 am »

IMO I wouldn't wrap their feet, bandages hold moisture (especially on the ground) and leave room for fungus / bacteria to grow giving way to making a small problem much worse....they will help keep it clean when you aren't doing it.

If the puppy is UTD on wormings I would make a trip to the vet for some albon, you can also make your own.  I can post the site tonight when I get home if no one else has it.

Hope they all have a speedy recovery!
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« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2011, 11:20:23 am »

Hey Logan

On your puppy check her teeth. I got a litter mate to her and he is loosing his baby teeth. But Id still keep an eye on her. Good luck man.
she is losing her baby teeth, could she be losing weight because it hurts to eat i thought about that but never paid attention
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« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2011, 01:22:12 pm »

I've had very similar foot injuries on my dogs, and it ended up getting better with a little hexadine, peroxide, and neosporin.

On the dog loosing weight and not eating give him some type of safeguard fendbendazole dewormer(generic panacur).  it is safe and covers a lot of things.  the suspension for goats and bovine is the best if you got extra money, otherwise just get the goat dewormer from safeguard.  you can also use the big syringe deal of horse dewormer for safeguard.  they could not establish a toxicity level in laboratory test so it is the safest thing I've ever heard of pretty much.
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« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2011, 01:32:49 pm »

if your dog is severly dehydrated and skin and bones, and refusing to eat and drink, you may have to force some water and food, like eggs or probiotic yogurt down it's throat, to keep it alive.  dose it with fendbendazole for 3 to five days and in a roll.  giardia is another very common parasite that is everywhere and a pain in the arse.  repeated treatments may be required.  giardia is nearly impossible to test positive for at a vet.  many vets are entirely incompetent anyway.

http://www.dog-health-guide.org/causesofgiardiaindogs.html

http://www.firstchoicenaturals.com/resourcearticles/giardia.php
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« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2011, 01:36:31 pm »

logan i agree with hogaholics wife wrapping the foot . i wouldn't wrap it, the dog will lick it and it will stay clean and heal faster as a ruel .
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« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2011, 02:53:17 pm »

About how long does the process of losing teeth and regaining them take?
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« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2011, 03:13:59 pm »

logan with as many pups that i have raised in my lifetime i've never had one quit eating due to teeth coming in . this time of year wild birds are moving in and out especially the deseise riddin city grackles and if your pup is on the ground i'd be more concerned with coccidiosus . a product called sulmet or the more expensive cordid wouldn't be a bad idea . your local farm and ranch should carry both and i allways treat young dogs with it as a preventive [sulmet ] cocci is a stomach bug that will kill young pups quick as parvo . if it continues to go down it will need fluids admimistered sub-q if not allready too late .good luck MR.WHITTEN
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« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2011, 03:35:37 pm »

Albon from the Vet or Corrid in their water should work for Coccidosis.  I have played that game a few times and Albon will clear it up but it something that you have to stay on top of very closely.  Give meds twice a day for 7 or more days I believe.  Good luck with your dogs and hope they get well soon.
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« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2011, 09:00:33 pm »

I have a gallon jug of 12% Sulfadimethoxine that I dilute down in lieu of going to the vet for Albon and if you have other puppies it isn't a bad idea to treat them all at once since they can just pass it around. 

I mix mine with Pedialyte for the extra electrolytes but the website recommends Dyne (which they do not sell down here any way).

This article also mentions the Giardia and how to treat with Safeguard.

http://www.beaglesunlimited.com/health/coccidiosis-diagnosis-treatment-and-prevention



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« Reply #16 on: November 23, 2011, 06:03:50 pm »

http://www.homesteadingtoday.com/archive/index.php/t-103988.html


the dosage i use in average cases is 1 CC per four pounds of 10% safeguard/fendbendazole/panacur.  i have been perscribed 22% at the same dosage, but it was for an advanced case.  fendbendazole(safeguard) from what i have read is the safest option. 

i am currently using the goatwormer and it is a suspension, earlier i thought it wasn't.  suspension is just that it is mixed up and will not settle or become inconsistent.  the horsewormers from what i understand are non consistent.
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« Reply #17 on: November 23, 2011, 06:33:49 pm »

the reason i'm thinking giardia is you haven't said anything about vomitting, diarhea, bloody stools, etc. 

some dogs show symptoms others don't.  some dogs don't even show symptoms for parvo; just like people are different individual to individual with different strength immune systems.
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« Reply #18 on: November 23, 2011, 08:13:54 pm »

Logan if its Karma thats sick, it is not her teeth you either have Cocidia, Parvo,Corona or severe worm infestation and either one can kill from dehydration , She is a five  almost six month old pup get her to the vet or get her stool sample to the vet and get the correct diagnosis so you are spending money treating the wrong things, too many people have lost dogs lately and I am talking older dogs by waiting thinking it would be okay.
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« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2011, 03:12:47 am »

Give the milk replacer a shot, if she takes to that then start to work it mixed with some other hi pro table food. Eggs,yogurt,ground meat and white bread for some extra weight. Maybe even put it in a blender. If she takes to that start working her usual food in with the milk replaced and she should get back on track quick....hope its not anything more serious.
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