I need Advice.Strike dogs and vests?

[halfbreed]

but to get back to the post about vest and all . i been a thinkin on running the hardcore bibs thi year i bred a little grit back into my dogs . any body used them the [hardcore ] they look good on paper .

[Zaneo]

Yes i use em and i really like em. Ive got a strike & catch vest from them and so far so good! There service is great too!

[pigrig]

ok i think i have it sorted : i like all my dogs to catch there own pigs whether ( in kiwi terms) im running bailers or holders or a mixture of both . i dont use vests i find them far to restrictive but i do use rip collars on any hard holders and somtimes younger dogs until i can see that they arnt going to do anything dumb . smart dogs dont get ripped unless they are plain unlucky

[Zaneo]

Bailers and holders i kinda have an idea but please explain?

[cantexduck]

Pigrig a strike is the same thing as a bay dog. A running catch dog is a dog that is off lead that will go to a bay and catch. Most catch dogs are lead in. They are taken to the bay on a lead and released.

I put vests on my strike dogs when I started. Then one day there was only supposed small pigs so I ran just a collar. When I got to the bay the boar was at least 300 lbs and I only had the bay dog planning to just go in and grab the pig. When I tried to move around to get the boar he charged my dog and I thought it was over because I did not vest her. But she did some twisting jump and landed on the boars tail to stop him. There is no doubt she could never had done that with a vest on. If she would have been vested she would have been slammed. So I never run a vest on a bay dog now. I also worry about the heat. I want my Dogos to be running catch dogs so I am looking into the Aussie style plates. I don't buy that thest gives any more confidence than they should already have.

  Cool. Mind sharing a pic of that 300 lb hog you caught with one bay dog?

[craig]

Not so sure about the vest giving a gritty dog more confidence ,if hes got it hes got it! I can tell u one thing i didnt like about using vests on my strike dogs,IT SLOWED THEM DOWN CONSIDERABLY,even tried the shorter behind the shoulder vests but too often,epecially in daylight hunts,a hog would break across a field and when the dogs would try to slide under the bottom barbed wire fence the straps would hang and the hog would gain some serious ground,quit using them after that.

 very true, thats why i dont vest my strike dogs, they will bay till i send in the catch dogs

[pigrig]

Bailers and holders i kinda have an idea but please explain?
[/quote  i kinda guess we call our finder bailers same as u call a strike dog; almost always of mixed breeds,with most comm having say greyhound /whippet /border collie/boxer/lab/smithfield/airdale/ or any other majic x bread over many generations of mungrel for there hard stoping ability and good bayling ability; holders are also usually x breed of bull type origin i run a mix of both but dont always hunt them togeather depends on the area im hunting or who,s other dogs im hunting with

[RyanTBH]

help me out here people a strike dog is..... a catch dog is....... and there make up of breeds is.......

...JMO, but a strike dog is a dog that will strike a trail/scent and finish it out! A Catch Dog is a APBT/BD/Dogo or whatever tickles your fancy that will honor a bay, and run in a catch and not let go, no matter the punishment it is receiving. like I said, that is JMO... Good hunting to you!

[TinyTexasCowgirl]

In my opinion, I have to relate "Strike" to coon hunting. When you are coon hunting, if you dog "strikes" that means they have located a scent. So to me, a strike dog is the one who finds the scent/hog and bay dogs stop the hog and keep it in one place. However,  I feel any and every bay dog should have a bit of strike in them, but again, that's just my opinion.

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Re: I need Advice.Strike dogs and vests?
« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2011, 10:30:24 pm »
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but to get back to the post about vest and all . i been a thinkin on running the hardcore bibs thi year i bred a little grit back into my dogs . any body used them the [hardcore ] they look good on paper .

Where do you find these? They got a web site or what?

[Reuben]

a dog that bays and goes to a bay to bay a hog is a cull to me and will be replaced just as soon as he can be replaced with a good strike dog that bays right. That is always part of the plan and good strike dogs get replaced with better strike dogs until a minimum requirement is met...just how I see it...

[mark]

I know i don't post on here much and i don't claim to know it all but from my experience I don't run strike vests on my strike dogs , but i do run a cut collar. My dogs in order to suit me will have to range far out and put serious teeth in a running hog and help catch hard when my bulldog arrives . I have found that hunting in the heat the vest raises the chance of heat stroke and slows my dog down alot. I don't put them down without a cut collar though ,so i reckon it's what someone likes are dislikes ,it's neither wrong are right it's just simply a opinion . Some dogs learn to back up from a bad hog and others get rougher the more they get cut it just depends on the dog .

[halfbreed]

g man  hardcorehogdogs  dot com . you really should subscribe to bayed solid ,  every hog hunter should just to support our sport.  but back to the program i agree with mark about the heat and vest thats why i ain't used em plus rubbing the dogs raw . but i will buy me a couple of bibs to try out, because i will try just about anything once where dog safety is concerned .