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« Reply #40 on: January 07, 2012, 10:11:33 am » |
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Ya tn. Frank doesn't do it anymore. Its me swisher and nik palmer. There's probly a few more I don't know but what I'm gettin at is these hogs don't get a lot of dog pressure. They just naturally run most of the time it seems. I'm sure some dog power will help. Up here were all still new to the sport, a lot to learn yet !
These hogs get tons of dog pressure from coon hunters. The last 3 times I went hog hunting have seen other people out bowhunting or scouting for hogs. On the whole they are pressured to death. Thats why its harder here than most places down south. Are you meaning the coon hounds are trashying of hogs ? People bow hunting is not gonna make the hogs not stop an bay
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« Reply #41 on: January 07, 2012, 11:10:31 am » |
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Ya tn. Frank doesn't do it anymore. Its me swisher and nik palmer. There's probly a few more I don't know but what I'm gettin at is these hogs don't get a lot of dog pressure. They just naturally run most of the time it seems. I'm sure some dog power will help. Up here were all still new to the sport, a lot to learn yet !
These hogs get tons of dog pressure from coon hunters. The last 3 times I went hog hunting have seen other people out bowhunting or scouting for hogs. On the whole they are pressured to death. Thats why its harder here than most places down south. Are you meaning the coon hounds are trashying of hogs ? People bow hunting is not gonna make the hogs not stop an bay Your not getting what I am saying.... Coon hunting is a huge sport here in southern ohio. I know coon hunters that have seen pigs and killed them. Our hogs have heard dogs tree a coon. I dont think they are interested in that. A hog wont go investigate a treed coon, they will stay away. A bowhunter in the woods equals pressure on wildlife. Too much pressure equals hogs gone. Ive been hunting these woods for years and baiting hogs. Ohio woods grow big bucks, turkeys, and hogs without a feeder. The hogs have plenty of acorns, hedge apples, greens, frogs, dead deer, and anything else they want to eat. A lot of these hogs are in state owned woods with a lot of people coon hunting, turkey hunting, rabbit hunting, squirrel hunting, deer hunting, and hog hunting. Plus we have maybee a tenth of a percentage point of the hogs they have in texas. Ultimately what I am saying is its tough here in Ohio to hunt hogs.
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« Reply #42 on: January 07, 2012, 07:58:15 pm » |
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shoot there are some hunters up here that are afraid to catch one, some even say that there are no hogs here period
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« Reply #43 on: January 08, 2012, 12:44:22 am » |
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Sounds like we got the same problem I live in se mo and Didnt start catching any hogs until I Tried a wb bmc. I caught a few with him that were Russian looking And big and miles from where we started As my dog got older and more confident he started gettin catchy And that was the end of him . Now I'm back to square one so if u find something that works for u Let me know what it is
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« Reply #44 on: January 08, 2012, 06:25:49 am » |
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Sounds like we got the same problem I live in se mo and Didnt start catching any hogs until I Tried a wb bmc. I caught a few with him that were Russian looking And big and miles from where we started As my dog got older and more confident he started gettin catchy And that was the end of him . Now I'm back to square one so if u find something that works for u Let me know what it is
What me and my buddy have come up with is this; I know this goes against the grain.... We are going to hunt hogs in Ohio like you bear hunt with plotts. These hogs break bay. I will have 4 or 5 plotts that hunt down that hog and stop it and if they kill it.... so what. If they bay it good. This southern Ohio hill country is rough. A great hog man Tom Franklin came here and our dogs bayed out about 275 yards and after an hour we only gained a 100 yards climbing hills and and crawling on our hands and knees thru briars and bush trying to keep a catch dog on a leash and someone started shooting and the dogs broke bay. The plott family in the early 1900"s caught 47 pure russian boar in 1912 that has got loose from a game ranch in North Carolina with plotts and no catch dog. I know this is not the traditional bay and send in the catch dog but that doesnt work real good here. You need a hound and a bunch of them. If this dont work we will try something else.
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« Reply #45 on: January 08, 2012, 07:14:15 am » |
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shoot there are some hunters up here that are afraid to catch one, some even say that there are no hogs here period
We have hogs Had a guy up here and he called us saying he had wild boar on his property. He shot a big sow but we caught this little sow  This is Brian Hughes from Oak Hill, Ohio. He has killed a 100 plus hogs in Ohio with no dogs  trail cams  
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« Reply #46 on: January 08, 2012, 09:18:56 am » |
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ive seen a few off I77 goin south for trips, had to keep my hands on the wheel so i wouldnt climb out the window after em
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« Reply #47 on: January 08, 2012, 07:15:13 pm » |
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Can we see some pics of the Eurasian blooded hogs that you have up there? Who released them and do you know what region they came out of in Europe to reach 400+lbs as frequently as you have stated?
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"You lose a lot of money chasing hogs and women, but never lose women chasing money."
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« Reply #48 on: January 08, 2012, 07:26:58 pm » |
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swish we should do some rcd breeding 
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« Reply #49 on: January 08, 2012, 08:25:17 pm » |
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swish we should do some rcd breeding  Bacon would be a good start. We want to breed her to a plott eventually. When you come down we will show our dogs and what crosses we want to make. We got three in mind.
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« Reply #51 on: January 08, 2012, 11:28:32 pm » |
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lmao, hamps dont slow down enough, you need some pot bellies!
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« Reply #53 on: January 09, 2012, 12:21:05 am » |
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Wasn't gonna give up my secret but since we are all friends. Here are a few strains I am working on for releasing back into the wild. My breeding method is made up from several angles  My wise guy line. Slow and Sexy that's why they get caught.  My treeing line. They go up instead of out on the run.  And finally my alcoholic line. They are usually to chit faced to run. 
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« Reply #54 on: January 09, 2012, 05:24:49 am » |
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Can we see some pics of the Eurasian blooded hogs that you have up there? Who released them and do you know what region they came out of in Europe to reach 400+lbs as frequently as you have stated?
Joey Young
All the hogs in Ohio got loose from hunting preserves. One rumor is that a hog supplier from Alabama would get an order of 40 hogs to bring, he'd load 50 in case one died. After delivery he would kick em out down the road from the ranch. We dont have pure russians. Our hogs get big but prolly because they have domestic. There have been outfitters here letting some loose to sell hunts with.
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« Reply #56 on: January 09, 2012, 07:02:59 am » |
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I guess you haven't hunted with any good dogs... good dogs get it done no matter where you drop them.  Running hogs are running hogs, no matter what state they're in... y'alls hogs are no different than any others.
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« Reply #57 on: January 09, 2012, 07:22:57 am » |
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hes got a point, hogs run no matter what state  there are some mean hills in texas so maybe texas hill dogs are what we need 
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« Reply #58 on: January 09, 2012, 07:24:06 am » |
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Personally on hogs like that. I like a loose baying dog for runners. One that doesn't put alot of pressure on a hog till you get there with the catch dogs. JMO. But everyone has there preferences.
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« Reply #59 on: January 09, 2012, 07:55:26 am » |
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I have dogs that catch hogs, I didnt start this thread. The guy who started it is having problems catching hogs because the 2 dogs he and his buddy paid 3000$ cant get it done and they want help. I was in thier shoes a few months ago. Hogs are the same everywhere but the land isnt. We have very few hogs and only had them 15 years not 200 like you guys where you have a great community of hunters and dogs. This thing is coming up out of the ground here. Our hogs are deep and the wood are so thick and hilly you cant take atvs or horses. Walk out a 1000 yards and the dog strike an go out another 1000 yards then it takes 2 hours to close the distance crawling on your hands and knees up steep hills and thru briars. Same hogs but this aint texas.
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