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PaPaDaVe
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December 07, 2011, 07:36:23 pm »
I am not at all a hog dog trainer. I have been looking to start running some dogs. I look at posts and it may go something like this. Started dog will do Blah, has done Blah, may have found Blah. WILL SHOW IN BAY PEN. This last statment worries me, why not in the woods(which is where I plan to hunt the dog)?
Second one goes have a dog has found plenty hogs, will go to bay, hunts med to long range, honors dogs will not fight dogs or people, handles great, really don't want to get rid of it but need to cut back. BLAH BLAH BLAH, WILL CONSIDER TRADE FOR CATCH DOG, OR STRIKE DOG. I THOUGHT YOU WERE CUTTING BACK? This worries me. I see alot of red flags sometimes. This is what I think noone is gonna sell their best dog, or even a really good dog, what I see is SOME, NOT ALL not telling the whole story. wonder what to do?
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ARhogdogs
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December 07, 2011, 07:42:38 pm »
buy into a proven line of dogs that fits your huntin style and line breed within your own yard, the well only runs dry if u let it. an older, real good friend of mine taught me that.
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southtexasff
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December 07, 2011, 08:32:28 pm »
As far as showing in the bay pen that is only half of what you wanna see. Maybe the guy doesn't have time to take you hunting. If you feel something isnt right it usually isnt. Follow your instinct.
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reatj81
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December 07, 2011, 08:53:41 pm »
Quote from: PaPaDaVe on December 07, 2011, 07:36:23 pm
I am not at all a hog dog trainer. I have been looking to start running some dogs. I look at posts and it may go something like this. Started dog will do Blah, has done Blah, may have found Blah. WILL SHOW IN BAY PEN. This last statment worries me, why not in the woods(which is where I plan to hunt the dog)?
Second one goes have a dog has found plenty hogs, will go to bay, hunts med to long range, honors dogs will not fight dogs or people, handles great, really don't want to get rid of it but need to cut back. BLAH BLAH BLAH, WILL CONSIDER TRADE FOR CATCH DOG, OR STRIKE DOG. I THOUGHT YOU WERE CUTTING BACK? This worries me. I see alot of red flags sometimes. This is what I think noone is gonna sell their best dog, or even a really good dog, what I see is SOME, NOT ALL not telling the whole story. wonder what to do?
I dont have time to train! I am selling this one, or will trade for one that is as good or better, but I can promise you "he, she" will make a great dog. Only intrested in started dogs under a year old. Or my favorite one "younger hunter needing help starting my pack" (two weeks later, wanting to sell, or trade, just cannot afford to feed, or need money for the hollidays, please help.) I'm not trying to call anyone out, I just dont understand! Hunting dogs dont grow on trees, you cannot get the ones you want tomorrow! (Its that simple) If they are are culls, cull them.... dont try to pawn culls off on someone else! I think most REAL DOG MEN will tell you no matter how strong of line you have, or how good so & so dog is there will be a few culls! (could be wrong, just my opp) I also believe as a hunter it is my responsibility as a want to be hunter, to take care of the culls my self!
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pigrig
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December 08, 2011, 02:45:01 am »
i live a hemisphere away and the same thing happens here . its a bit of reality .a bit of advice...the same as i give alot of young hunters ,be prepared for the long haul.catching pork is just part of the jorney.be prepard to move dogs on,wear down some pairs of boots,good luck
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Reuben
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December 08, 2011, 05:41:53 am »
Quote from: ARhogdogs on December 07, 2011, 07:42:38 pm
buy into a proven line of dogs that fits your huntin style and line breed within your own yard, the well only runs dry if u let it. an older, real good friend of mine taught me that.
x2...takes longer but you will be lots happier in the long run...
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Miller Lite
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December 08, 2011, 07:16:05 am »
This is what I think noone is gonna sell their best dog, or even a really good dog, what I see is SOME, NOT ALL not telling the whole story. wonder what to do?
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everything is for sale with the right price tag
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RyanTBH
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December 08, 2011, 09:42:37 am »
Quote from: Miller Lite on December 08, 2011, 07:16:05 am
This is what I think noone is gonna sell their best dog, or even a really good dog, what I see is SOME, NOT ALL not telling the whole story. wonder what to do?
everything is for sale with the right price tag
[/quote]I agree with this one buddy! I just bought someone's best dog yesterday, and am ready to get him in the woods. (and he wasn't cheap) so Miller Light is right, (lol) money talks, especially to people that don't have a lot to throw around.
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Boar Collector
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Re: Worried
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December 08, 2011, 10:17:36 am »
Some of the best woods dogs I've seen had to interest in a pig in a pen!
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"Them pigs can run.. but they'll only die tired"
Boar Collector
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December 08, 2011, 10:18:13 am »
No interest
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"Them pigs can run.. but they'll only die tired"
Miller Lite
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December 08, 2011, 10:21:08 am »
Quote from: Boar Collector on December 08, 2011, 10:17:36 am
Some of the best woods dogs I've seen had to interest in a pig in a pen!
x2 i had a dog that didn't want nothin to do with a hog in a pen but would find them in the woods all day
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TShelly
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December 08, 2011, 10:52:22 am »
Buying a dog can definitely be a indecisive and nervous situation. As with any product being sold, crooks are out there and looking to take advantage of the weak or weak minded...
I think most people you see with the posts you are talking about are young kids or newbies who really have no clue what a real hog dog is or one of value. People sell culls for $200 -$400 like it is nothing..
Do your due diligence, in the end you are the one turning the $$$ over and it is your fault if you get burned.
Everyone on this site has a profile, check them out. You can see every post and comment that member has made. Look for pictures, story's, credible evidence that this is a trustworthy person. Sometimes good people that don't post much do sell good dogs for certain reasons. Again this falls on you to do the right research and ask the right questions.
How do the littermates to this dog hunt? Parents? How long have you been hog hunting? How do you hunt? How successful are you? These are all questions to help you feel a person out and I would even go more in depth.
Pm me if you need assistance with finding people that actually do sell a few good dogs from time to time
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reatj81
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December 08, 2011, 12:33:35 pm »
Yes money talkes! Quite oftem a person can buy a dog that will fit your hunting great, that does not fit the sellers style of hunting! ex a person wants to sell beacuse a dog is to short range--to long range for them beacuse the way they pefer to hunt, Dog not ruff enough-or too ruff for there style hunting, family or work related reasons, ect. spend time talking to the person , go hunt with them and watch with your owen eyes! trust your owen judgement, get someone who you trust to go hunt with whoever has the dog for sale. I have sold a couple of dogs, I dont know you or how you hunt or say you hunt, so if you want the dog come hunt with me, and see for yourself, make your own opnions on the dog, come hunt 2-3 times if need to. The dogs I have sold were nice dogs, just didnt fit, and the buyers left happy, and still are! Often one dog can chang the results of how many hogs you catch, I also believe that often nice dogs are sold and the new owners, dont give the dog a fair chance to fit in. I sold a really nice 18mo pup that was super long range to a cousin of mine, he hunted with me several times, and wanted him, I had no intrest in selling him, then wam DIVORCE had to cut back. After a couple of years he decided the dog was to long, and too much bottom for him. He sold the dog and the man that bought hin even went as far as to call me for info on the dog! Yes I lost a nice dog but he went to a good home that used him for what he was bread for. Last I herd of him he was in north east tx, maby someone on here knows him, CLAY! A person can find there self with too many nice dogs with a good program, just as fast as too much junk! yes they are out there like the others said it takes time!
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Critter Catcher
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Re: Worried
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December 08, 2011, 12:52:16 pm »
Quote from: TShelly on December 08, 2011, 10:52:22 am
Buying a dog can definitely be a indecisive and nervous situation. As with any product being sold, crooks are out there and looking to take advantage of the weak or weak minded...
I think most people you see with the posts you are talking about are young kids or newbies who really have no clue what a real hog dog is or one of value. People sell culls for $200 -$400 like it is nothing..
Do your due diligence, in the end you are the one turning the $$$ over and it is your fault if you get burned.
Everyone on this site has a profile, check them out. You can see every post and comment that member has made. Look for pictures, story's, credible evidence that this is a trustworthy person. Sometimes good people that don't post much do sell good dogs for certain reasons. Again this falls on you to do the right research and ask the right questions.
How do the littermates to this dog hunt? Parents? How long have you been hog hunting? How do you hunt? How successful are you? These are all questions to help you feel a person out and I would even go more in depth.
Pm me if you need assistance with finding people that actually do sell a few good dogs from time to time
hey man you gonna sell that red dog....I might be able to find room for him...
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t.wilbanks
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Trenton Wilbanks Daingerfield,Tx
Re: Worried
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December 08, 2011, 12:54:12 pm »
Quote from: Critter Catcher on December 08, 2011, 12:52:16 pm
Quote from: TShelly on December 08, 2011, 10:52:22 am
Buying a dog can definitely be a indecisive and nervous situation. As with any product being sold, crooks are out there and looking to take advantage of the weak or weak minded...
I think most people you see with the posts you are talking about are young kids or newbies who really have no clue what a real hog dog is or one of value. People sell culls for $200 -$400 like it is nothing..
Do your due diligence, in the end you are the one turning the $$$ over and it is your fault if you get burned.
Everyone on this site has a profile, check them out. You can see every post and comment that member has made. Look for pictures, story's, credible evidence that this is a trustworthy person. Sometimes good people that don't post much do sell good dogs for certain reasons. Again this falls on you to do the right research and ask the right questions.
How do the littermates to this dog hunt? Parents? How long have you been hog hunting? How do you hunt? How successful are you? These are all questions to help you feel a person out and I would even go more in depth.
Pm me if you need assistance with finding people that actually do sell a few good dogs from time to time
hey man you gonna sell that red dog....I might be able to find room for him...
Tony is giving me that dog as my Christmas present... Sorry..
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hutch7
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December 08, 2011, 01:39:55 pm »
i bought a dog on here for 400 and the guy said it was da** good dog and would strike hogs like crazy. i took the dog to the woods he went 50 yards and laid down lol. tryed to get ahold of him and get my money back . well of course no answer ! i hunted and never gave up on the dog and after about 10 more times in the woods i finally got him to leave my feet and run with my best dog . well here recently he has became my LEAD strike dog . sent all the pics and videos to the guy of the hogs he struck and the guy replys (how much would you sell him back to me for?) HAHAHAH you really gotta watch people on this site cause there are some crooked people on here!!!!!!!!! But it worked out for me
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PaPaDaVe
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December 08, 2011, 01:50:22 pm »
Lots of really good info. on all these posts. I am really interested in this type of hunting,(ie. love good dog work no matter what type dog it is). A couple of statments seem to repeat in a few of these replys; Take your time, do your homework, meet the people and their dogs, ask questions, and try to buy from the best stock you can.
I am gonna make a list of what I feel i want and need in a pack of dogs, and research some kennels, and try find a fit for my needs, and wants. Thanks to all who posted, yall were all very helpful.
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hutch7
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December 08, 2011, 01:56:23 pm »
man jus if you get a dog that aint workin out for you dont give up on it. itll click in for them!!
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t.wilbanks
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Trenton Wilbanks Daingerfield,Tx
Re: Worried
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December 08, 2011, 02:04:51 pm »
Quote from: hutch7 on December 08, 2011, 01:39:55 pm
i bought a dog on here for 400 and the guy said it was da** good dog and would strike hogs like crazy. i took the dog to the woods he went 50 yards and laid down lol. tryed to get ahold of him and get my money back . well of course no answer ! i hunted and never gave up on the dog and after about 10 more times in the woods i finally got him to leave my feet and run with my best dog . well here recently he has became my LEAD strike dog . sent all the pics and videos to the guy of the hogs he struck and the guy replys (how much would you sell him back to me for?) HAHAHAH you really gotta watch people on this site cause there are some crooked people on here!!!!!!!!! But it worked out for me
As far as how the dog acted, ive seen and had several dogs that take awhile to adjust... some may take a few days, some a few months.. Its different with every dog how they adapt to you and your pack... And theres some that never do adjust and turn on for you like they did the original owner...
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TShelly
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December 08, 2011, 02:11:13 pm »
Quote from: t.wilbanks on December 08, 2011, 12:54:12 pm
Quote from: Critter Catcher on December 08, 2011, 12:52:16 pm
Quote from: TShelly on December 08, 2011, 10:52:22 am
Buying a dog can definitely be a indecisive and nervous situation. As with any product being sold, crooks are out there and looking to take advantage of the weak or weak minded...
I think most people you see with the posts you are talking about are young kids or newbies who really have no clue what a real hog dog is or one of value. People sell culls for $200 -$400 like it is nothing..
Do your due diligence, in the end you are the one turning the $$$ over and it is your fault if you get burned.
Everyone on this site has a profile, check them out. You can see every post and comment that member has made. Look for pictures, story's, credible evidence that this is a trustworthy person. Sometimes good people that don't post much do sell good dogs for certain reasons. Again this falls on you to do the right research and ask the right questions.
How do the littermates to this dog hunt? Parents? How long have you been hog hunting? How do you hunt? How successful are you? These are all questions to help you feel a person out and I would even go more in depth.
Pm me if you need assistance with finding people that actually do sell a few good dogs from time to time
hey man you gonna sell that red dog....I might be able to find room for him...
Tony is giving me that dog as my Christmas present... Sorry..
@ CC and Trenton...Hahaha that red dog has his own stocking at my house...
!!! he will be available in the spring though trenton
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