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« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2011, 12:42:11 pm » |
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If I was you, I would find someone who has a sure-enough real deal proven line of running hounds (Trigg, Running Walkers) and try to get a female and cross over Monkey. Keep the entire litter, and I would bet almost anything you'll find what you're looking for.
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« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2011, 01:39:30 pm » |
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If I was you, I would find someone who has a sure-enough real deal proven line of running hounds (Trigg, Running Walkers) and try to get a female and cross over Monkey. Keep the entire litter, and I would bet almost anything you'll find what you're looking for.
x2...a croghan running walker, a leopard cur but don't confuse the catahoula with a leopard cur... or even a larger type mtn cur...Breed monkey to a female of this type and then breed monkey to a grand daughter...you will be set for a while... |
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« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2011, 05:01:24 pm » |
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I am not too proud to hunt a hound!  Many moons ago I actually had a pair of track driving blueticks I was proud to feed! Mark even wanted to drive incognito in his "other truck" to save the embarrassment of being recognised as a hound and leapord dog hunter! LOL Cajun, I knew I liked you. |
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« Reply #23 on: December 12, 2011, 06:29:08 pm » |
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Try a mountain cur, once you trash break um they will fit what your looking for.
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« Reply #24 on: December 12, 2011, 06:36:30 pm » |
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This is similar to the post I had a while back, on page 3 (who has them).
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« Reply #25 on: December 12, 2011, 08:05:56 pm » |
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I appreciate al the responses and posts. I don't know anyone with running type hounds (trig, etc) and I am afraid any hound cross will be open on track. I know a lot of guys don't mind that but I want a dog that is 100 % silent on track. I only want to hear a dog bark when : A) The dog has a hog stopped and is looking him in the eye, and B) when its a bigger hog. If its a 50 lb hog I want them to have it caught when I get there. I don't know about where you guys hunt but the hog population has gone way down and the hog hunter population is up about 300 % over what it was 10 years ago. Any dog that barks behind a hog here is at a disadvantage. I am not saying you can't stop hogs with open dogs because you can, you just normally aren't going to do it quickly. At least that is my experience. Maybe I didn't make it clear what I was looking for. Good lung capacity, plenty of leg, lots of stamina, etc. Here is a pic of what I am looking for......  OOPS...wrong pic.....wait, on closer examination, maybe that IS what I need.....  |
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« Reply #26 on: December 12, 2011, 09:00:34 pm » |
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Is that Chance?  |
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« Reply #27 on: December 12, 2011, 09:05:44 pm » |
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Yep thats me in the background. I'm more like them Florida curs if I can't catch it quick than I'm done. I ain't got enough bottom to hang with that gyp.lol
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Hog hunting can start more crap than anything I have ever seen!(HDLCrystal)
Remember John Wayne was just an actor the real cowboys is who he looked up to..........
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« Reply #28 on: December 12, 2011, 09:06:15 pm » |
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Cystal has real good taste if that's Chance.
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« Reply #29 on: December 12, 2011, 09:32:35 pm » |
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I appreciate al the responses and posts. I don't know anyone with running type hounds (trig, etc) and I am afraid any hound cross will be open on track. I know a lot of guys don't mind that but I want a dog that is 100 % silent on track. I only want to hear a dog bark when : A) The dog has a hog stopped and is looking him in the eye, and B) when its a bigger hog. If its a 50 lb hog I want them to have it caught when I get there.
I don't know about where you guys hunt but the hog population has gone way down and the hog hunter population is up about 300 % over what it was 10 years ago. Any dog that barks behind a hog here is at a disadvantage. I am not saying you can't stop hogs with open dogs because you can, you just normally aren't going to do it quickly. At least that is my experience.
You're right...some of them will probably be open, but that's why I said keep the whole litter. I don't care if it's a hound or cur, if you think you're going to make an outcross breeding and any pup out if the litter be as good as the next you should probably re-think that a little bit. Breeding to get what your looking for is going to take some serious evaluating on your part. By the way...I really like the genetics of that prospect in the pic. GREAT phenotype! |
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« Reply #30 on: December 12, 2011, 09:40:29 pm » |
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I appreciate al the responses and posts. I don't know anyone with running type hounds (trig, etc) and I am afraid any hound cross will be open on track. I know a lot of guys don't mind that but I want a dog that is 100 % silent on track. I only want to hear a dog bark when : A) The dog has a hog stopped and is looking him in the eye, and B) when its a bigger hog. If its a 50 lb hog I want them to have it caught when I get there.
I don't know about where you guys hunt but the hog population has gone way down and the hog hunter population is up
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300 % over what it was 10 years ago. Any dog that barks behind a hog here is at a disadvantage. I am not saying you can't stop hogs with open dogs because you can, you just normally aren't going to do it quickly. At least that is my experience.
You're right...some of them will probably be open, but that's why I said keep the whole litter. I don't care if it's a hound or cur, if you think you're going to make an outcross breeding and any pup out if the litter be as good as the next you should probably re-think that a little bit. Breeding to get what your looking for is going to take some serious evaluating on your part. By the way...I really like the genetics of that prospect in the pic. GREAT phenotype! Forget the phenotype, I like the boobs. |
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« Reply #31 on: December 12, 2011, 10:53:34 pm » |
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there is a man in bastrop texas his name is rett trigg he might have what you need he hunts curr crosses line bred for years have great nose legs and can run and stop the best of them. my pockets are not that deep for his dogs but there worth every cent he culls maybe one dog out of his litters. pm me if you want his number
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« Reply #32 on: December 13, 2011, 01:05:31 pm » |
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Bryant, I agree in theory and often wish I had the time/room/funds to keep a whole litter and raise them. But life gets in the way sometimes. I rarely even see my dogs in the daytime, due to work, and its too expensive to keep a whole litter if you don't have the time to mess with them and observe them. I have (2) 15 month old Monkey daughters that have never really been hunted . I took one to a lease once and one to a permit hunt once but never got them on a hog. I bet I haven't even shown them a hog but 2-3 times in their life. And thats just two of them. If there were 10 pups in that litter and if I had kept all 10, thats a lot of feed for dogs that I don't have time to mess with. When I lived on the ranch it was a different story. But now that I work "in town" and drive 50 miles round trip every day, it limits the amount of time I have to spend with the dogs. I am just being realistic about the whole thing (the pic above aside.... ). So I keep 1-2 pups a litter and hope for the best. Of course, littermates to these two pups are doing a whole lot more in the woods. They just need opportunity and exposure, that mine haven't gotten. Plus, my hunting spots are from 1 hour away to 3 hours away. With fuel almost $4/gallon you can't just run there to mess with a pup one afternoon for a few minutes......... Anyway, just made the post to see what was out there and see what type of responses I got. I like my Fla dogs or I wouldn't have kept them 30 years, but always looking and wondering what else may be out there. At times I wish for a little more range and bottom and at times that would get me in trouble too. But I have a secret weapon in the making.....ask the guys that have been to my house, its about to become the age of the Weader dog!! |
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