BMC ?

[txsteve85]

Looks like my pup at 6 months old.

[C L]

I have seen a number of pups of that color from litters that were straight BMC for several generations. Some BMC lines have these color genetics; the same is true for saddleback, black and tan, and other colors and patterns of BMCs. Brindle is also a BMC color but usually one or both parents will be brindle.

[cajunl]

No, I think all that tight breeding is bringing all the snakes out of the woodpile. Wink

I've never seen any old bloodline of bmc's throw pink noses or bob-tails.

A lot of the florida BMC had pink noses and bob tailed that go back to the early 90's. They were all papered ben bred dogs.

But papers are only as honest as the man/women behind them!

[C L]

I think that while many of us today try to be very careful of matings to be sure we know parentage, in the past (and to some extent today) I believe that many of those who raised and used these curs and actually contributed much to the development of very useful dogs, were not so concerned about precisely knowing parentage. A dog was either useful or not; the dogs that were kept for the most part were useful to the owner. Many of these folks did not pen their dogs and pups were sired many times by the dogs on the place. Also, while in the distant past limited travel restricted the gene pool to a local area, occasionally the opportunity to outcross came about and was used, and may or may not be acknowledged (or in some cases known by the owners). I don't think this was always the case but I believe it happened with sufficient frequency that in some cases the dogs from these groups are not always exclusively those original genetics. I don't think this diminishes the value/usefulness of these dogs and I am sure that it is in the past of the curs I have. But as someone said earlier, when we inbreed these dogs, we learn a lot about their genetic background. However, in my opinion, color is one of the less important traits compared to ability and drive to hunt, find, stay, etc. Many years ago, I heard Ben Jordan say "Color is the easiest thing to fix." I think he was right.

[rspivey]

Doc I agree with what you are saying as well as BJ. When we make a breeding I first look for that natural desire to work/hunt,second I want one to work stock the way a BMC should,third I want a dog to have natural wind and be naturally tough,fourth a good nose,fifth a mouth that carries and is nice to hear, then maybe I will get around to thinking about color.Bottom line though is a man/woman should feed what they like. JMO

[Jam-Up Hog Doggin (Tuffone)]

There has been a lot of great info given on this subject. Thanks for all the input. I have learned a whole lot.