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« on: December 26, 2011, 08:05:11 pm » |
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(Doing a bit of brainstorming here... so bare with me  ) I have noticed well respected hunters throughout the state have been having an increasingly hard time finding quality replacement catch dogs when they are needed... a very specific quality of animal that not many can find... I have been toying with the idea of doing a catch dog litter for a while now, and have a fairly extensive network of good genetics to work with... many different possible combinations to produce the type of catch dog that "I" would prefer for myself... I enjoy raising dogs, as much of a pain in the ass as it is... I still greatly enjoy it... The fact of the matter is, I am after a very specific "one" when I do make a breeding... and it takes keeping the whole litter for a good bit for me to see which pup "is" that one to me... Lot of dog food... medicine... etc.... To make it more affordable for me to do this, I imagine taking deposits with a refund agreement of some sort... I would, ideally, like to keep the whole litter to 4-5mnths... make my pick, then divy out what dogs have made the initial cuts... Although I realize most people would like to have a CD from as early an age as possible for obvious socialization issues, this is how I'll do it... if I do it... I want, basically, a med/large, leggy, straight catch cur dog... 70-90#'s... ATHLETIC/FAST/QUICK like a good cur dog should be... easy on the eyes... and SHUT YOUR EYES HARD. So on to YOUR ideal catch dog... size(weight), build(conformation), breed preference(or cross thereof), etc... What would you like to see? |
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Caseydejohn
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« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2011, 08:13:18 pm » |
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Bout 40 lbs of nothing but pure heart... that bout sums it up.
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hoghunter71409
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« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2011, 08:18:49 pm » |
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Noah, I'm sure I haven't owned the "best catch dog" there evee was....but the best catchdog I ever owned was smart. He knew how to catch the big boars and stay alive. The other trait I look for is stamina...my catchdog must be able to catch a hog and then be in good enough shape to catch another and another. So I look for brains and stamina. You may ask what about heart...if he aint got heart he wouldn't be a catchdog in the first place. JMO
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« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2011, 08:26:00 pm » |
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noah you just opened a whole can of worms i wanna see pauls T chime in on this ....lol
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Well, the devil made me do it the first time The second time I done it on my own
Lord, put a handle on a simple headed man And help me leave that black rose alone
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« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2011, 08:35:42 pm » |
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I've been fortunate with my catch dogs. I've done one breeding and I have a heck of a male size wize but he's a lil too wide. I prefer pits. I was into pits before I even started hunting hogs. I have a female that's a house dog that if I'd let her would catch everyone of my pigs. She's more on the lean side and not as wide but she don't have much of a head on her or jaw size. I'm thinking of crossing my big bulky 90 lb big headed pit back to my lean athletic leggy gyp.
The one I kept out of my last litter specifically for catching ain't nothin' but a black block headed catchin' machine. He's a year and a half and hasn't missed an ear and can get to a bay quick regarless of how thick it is and is stout enuff to hold for a long time and then still have some for another pig.
So I guess in general I like pits that are from 65-90 lbs with a big head and good wide front but then from there to the back with a lot of leg about knee high. I've really liked the looks of the "Old Family Reds" just don't have any true ones close to me and they are pretty pricey but if I had the money I'd ship one in.
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If ya ain't touchin' 'em ya ain't close enuff!!!
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« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2011, 08:37:25 pm » |
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noah you just opened a whole can of worms i wanna see pauls T chime in on this ....lol
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Purebreedcolt
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« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2011, 08:48:55 pm » |
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24 inches tall at shoulder. Somewhere 70 to 80 pounds. Big head big chest with wind to spare. Ridgeback/pit is my where I'm starting. May breed in a little something else for SOME hunt but I think I should have what I want. Idealy would 3/8 pit 3/8 ridgeback 2/8 something of good size and smart.
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« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2011, 09:29:46 pm » |
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Don't know if you asking me or not but want both in one dog.
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« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2011, 09:38:21 pm » |
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My buddy got ridgeback / pit
Catching lil sum gun..
First time ever seeing a hog he hit ear and held
Now he hog crazy..
Landon I see u don't got hope in the white pups
Ya got haha jk
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"NOT EVERY HOUND IS OPEN
NOT EVERY CUR IS SILETN.
NOT EVERY DOG IS A HOG DOG......"
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They just make ur pockets lighter!!!"
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cward
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« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2011, 10:40:51 pm » |
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I have caught hogs behind lots of great catchdogs but have only seen 3 that I would say were the best I ever seen. They were all alittle different but the brain they had. Caught on command only never leashed,never left your side until told to go catch. Once hog was caught told when to let go then went and laid down why you tied the hog. If hog broke bay before initial hit came straight back to me. I used this one little dog even with no k9. She was amazing I had another that would catch and handle just like her but alittle more hard headed when hog broke from bay she would stay until caught but once caught her handle came back. The third was a black lab that won every catch competition he ever entered just wow we kinda of catch dog..
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Remember John Wayne was just an actor the real cowboys is who he looked up to..........
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T-Bob Parker
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« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2011, 11:08:37 pm » |
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If we're talking dream dogs id say...
built like "Mayday", light yellow with a black mask, catches like a bear trap, smarter than lassie.
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« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2011, 11:11:52 pm » |
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Ok here goes...  26-28 inches at the shoulder 75-85 lbs six inch neck (collar wise) and a long tail Balanced head with a long muzzle Leggy Clean holder Fast and hard |
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W-tate
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« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2011, 11:19:30 pm » |
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Kinda disappointed Paul I was figuring on more reading |
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Well, the devil made me do it the first time The second time I done it on my own
Lord, put a handle on a simple headed man And help me leave that black rose alone
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« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2011, 11:23:46 pm » |
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Kinda disappointed Paul I was figuring on more reading Well I could have gone on for half the night.....but thats a start |
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WayOutWest
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« Reply #15 on: December 26, 2011, 11:50:43 pm » |
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Noah I know you are not a APBT guy but if you'll go to the ADBA website and look up they're Basis for Conformation I think you will see the build of dog you are looking for. They explain a lot about why they are built like they are.
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adamp
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« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2011, 12:39:22 am » |
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5/8rednose 1/4dogo 1/4 lab if I could make one from scratch
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Boar Collector
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« Reply #17 on: December 27, 2011, 12:52:04 am » |
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5/8rednose 1/4dogo 1/4 lab if I could make one from scratch
If my math is correct that'd be a heck of a 1 1/8 dog haha |
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tmatt
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« Reply #18 on: December 27, 2011, 01:44:47 am » |
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40-50lb APBT deep and wide chest with lots of lung, nice head, wide muzzle, long legs, and strong. Something similar to this old dog of mine.  Or this one.  Or even this one, she's a little small though at 35lbs.  |
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cajunl
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« Reply #19 on: December 27, 2011, 07:00:01 am » |
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Caught on command only never leashed,never left your side until told to go catch. Once hog was caught told when to let go then went and laid down why you tied the hog. If hog broke bay before initial hit came straight back to me. That is exactly what I want in a catch dog. If it does that,every other thing goes out the window....Breed, size, color. |
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