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« on: January 10, 2012, 12:08:06 pm » |
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From what I can read if you got the cash and you want the best BMC you would go to Wrights, and Thoms. Now who has Cats like that? Who are the best cat breeders, that have a line of reproduction that is second to none?
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« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2012, 12:10:11 pm » |
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This ought to be interesting. I'll put the popcorn in the microwave.
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« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2012, 12:12:31 pm » |
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Just like the BMC lines you just mentioned, they are the ones highly advertised, and there are better BMC lines out there you wont see advertised.
Just like the catahoulas with papers, there is better lines you won't ever know about because they don't care to have their hard work ruined by people wanting to make a buck.
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« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2012, 12:55:04 pm » |
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Just like the BMC lines you just mentioned, they are the ones highly advertised, and there are better BMC lines out there you wont see advertised.
Just like the catahoulas with papers, there is better lines you won't ever know about because they don't care to have their hard work ruined by people wanting to make a buck.
I am not talking bout papers, I am talkin bout really good dogs, that can also reproduce their kind. I don't care bout papers I do care about the quality of the strain, in both the working area, and the reproduction area. I do not want to buy a good working dog that does not and can not reproduce their good working habits. If i am gonna start this kinda of dog hunting I want to do it right. Now as for maybe slighting some other REALLY GOOD or even BETTER dog breeders if they don't want to be known how in the heck would I know bout them if I am new to this sport? I am not trying to steal someones blood line and make a profit, I just do not want to buy everyones CRAP, OR CULLS and spend 2 or 3 years sfifting through it. I also feel that if I do start with good stock like I want then I will be able to reproduce what I need because I know this is a sport where you ALWAYS NEED BACK UP. Yall are only one bad ass hog away form needing another one. So reproduction of abilities, and type are vital in my search. |
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« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2012, 01:05:47 pm » |
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Pretty much the only people still breeding cats are the ones looking to make money off papers and double glass eyes.. The ones that were breeding for hunting ablilty gave up and started breeding BMCs...   JUST A JOKE CAT PEOPLE!!!  |
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« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2012, 01:07:55 pm » |
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from your last post i have to assume you are new to running dogs. First, you are going to go through a dog or two to find what you want, secondly that one may not reproduce him/herself and EVERY strain has culls for one reason or another. Find one you like hunt the snot out of it, then try to find a dog that compliments it, and go from there. My BEST dogs were FREE! just my .02
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« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2012, 01:10:49 pm » |
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Just like the BMC lines you just mentioned, they are the ones highly advertised, and there are better BMC lines out there you wont see advertised.
Just like the catahoulas with papers, there is better lines you won't ever know about because they don't care to have their hard work ruined by people wanting to make a buck.
I am not talking bout papers, I am talkin bout really good dogs, that can also reproduce their kind. I don't care bout papers I do care about the quality of the strain, in both the working area, and the reproduction area. I do not want to buy a good working dog that does not and can not reproduce their good working habits. If i am gonna start this kinda of dog hunting I want to do it right. Now as for maybe slighting some other REALLY GOOD or even BETTER dog breeders if they don't want to be known how in the heck would I know bout them if I am new to this sport? I am not trying to steal someones blood line and make a profit, I just do not want to buy everyones CRAP, OR CULLS and spend 2 or 3 years sfifting through it. I also feel that if I do start with good stock like I want then I will be able to reproduce what I need because I know this is a sport where you ALWAYS NEED BACK UP. Yall are only one bad ass hog away form needing another one. So reproduction of abilities, and type are vital in my search. well, you have a good solid plan...another idea is to find you an older female of the type you want and then breed her to a good dog of the same strain and now you have pups that you can observe, train, and then you can select and keep the best of them... |
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« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2012, 01:14:42 pm » |
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Pretty much the only people still breeding cats are the ones looking to make money off papers and double glass eyes.. The ones that were breeding for hunting ablilty gave up and started breeding BMCs... JUST A JOKE CAT PEOPLE!!! first thing I would do with a cat is mix a little leopard cur or bluetick into the pot...  |
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
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« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2012, 01:24:22 pm » |
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well the mtn cur and leopard cur have a lot in common...besides...I knew your were going to say it...and I was going to have to respond... |
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
A hunting dog is born not made...
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« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2012, 01:54:21 pm » |
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IVE HAD CATAHOULAS FOR AROUND 15 YEARS, EVER BREED HAS TRASH BUT THERE SEEMS TO BE AN ABUNDANCE OF TRASH IN THE CATAHOULA WORLD. PROBLEM IS THEY ARE PRETTY AN THAT PRETTY COAT AN EYES KEPT ALOT OF DOGS ALIVE ON LOOKS ALONE!
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« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2012, 02:20:48 pm » |
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My buddies best dog is out it Thoms and my buddies worst dog is out of Thoms, had to be culled! ..... Just saying!
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« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2012, 02:24:06 pm » |
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IVE HAD CATAHOULAS FOR AROUND 15 YEARS, EVER BREED HAS TRASH BUT THERE SEEMS TO BE AN ABUNDANCE OF TRASH IN THE CATAHOULA WORLD. PROBLEM IS THEY ARE PRETTY AN THAT PRETTY COAT AN EYES KEPT ALOT OF DOGS ALIVE ON LOOKS ALONE!
id say theres trash in every line just as there is in catahoulas. ive seen some good dogs, hunted behind several; none were myn! propably 1/2 if not more were cats but why do u say theres an abundance in the "catahoula world" this isnt a debate just a question!? me personally i hunt yella and red dogs.. getting my first cat soon. |
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« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2012, 02:35:51 pm » |
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Dave, First Off I don't and won't get in a pissing match over this post with others. There is a lady in Denham Springs that has a proven line of Catahoulas. These dogs have won every baypen championship there is to win. She sells dogs to hunters and they make great woods dogs. She sells dogs for blood trailing and they make excellent blood trailing dogs. She ships dogs to Ranches in the U.S. and Canada and they excel at being cow dogs. These dogs have a lot of Sandhill in their bloodline which is one of the oldest Cat bloodlines in existence today. She started with a few Sandhill dogs as part of her foundation and through the years has line bred and now has her own
line of dogs. These dogs are very versatile. Litter after litter these dogs have proven themselves at what ever it is their job has turned out to be. Her name is Terri Monaghan. She owns Monaghan Catahoulas. Her number is 225-892-8948. I had a plan similar to yours. I did not want to go through a bunch of dogs to finally get a good one. I have my own line started now off of her dogs and couldn't be happier with their progress. The pups are eight months old and we are fixing to start hunting them in Feb. Pups I sold from my first litter are already hunting and finding their own hogs. Are their better Cats out there? I'm sure they are. I'm just giving you one place to find what your looking for.
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« Reply #15 on: January 10, 2012, 02:44:22 pm » |
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IVE HAD CATAHOULAS FOR AROUND 15 YEARS, EVER BREED HAS TRASH BUT THERE SEEMS TO BE AN ABUNDANCE OF TRASH IN THE CATAHOULA WORLD. PROBLEM IS THEY ARE PRETTY AN THAT PRETTY COAT AN EYES KEPT ALOT OF DOGS ALIVE ON LOOKS ALONE!
id say theres trash in every line just as there is in catahoulas. ive seen some good dogs, hunted behind several; none were myn! propably 1/2 if not more were cats but why do u say theres an abundance in the "catahoula world" this isnt a debate just a question!? me personally i hunt yella and red dogs.. getting my first cat soon. JUST FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE |
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« Reply #16 on: January 10, 2012, 03:27:12 pm » |
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Pretty much the only people still breeding cats are the ones looking to make money off papers and double glass eyes.. The ones that were breeding for hunting ablilty gave up and started breeding BMCs... JUST A JOKE CAT PEOPLE!!! Lmao. Why Joke?  |
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« Reply #17 on: January 10, 2012, 04:17:20 pm » |
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Pretty much the only people still breeding cats are the ones looking to make money off papers and double glass eyes.. The ones that were breeding for hunting ablilty gave up and started breeding BMCs... JUST A JOKE CAT PEOPLE!!! Now that's funny! from your last post i have to assume you are new to running dogs. First, you are going to go through a dog or two to find what you want, secondly that one may not reproduce him/herself and EVERY strain has culls for one reason or another. Find one you like hunt the snot out of it, then try to find a dog that compliments it, and go from there. My BEST dogs were FREE! just my .02
I am not new to raising or running dogs in general ( I owned and trained and ran beagles inAKC triles for 14 years) I am new to hog dog sports though. I do understand the idea of culls in about all crosses, that is why I would be willing to pay alittle to get some stock that I can put some trust in. I also understand like with the beagles there are different styles of these dogs, (ie long range or short and ruff and loose) I also understand how you train them has a huge effect on many of these varrables. Thanks for your input. Dave, First Off I don't and won't get in a pissing match over this post with others. There is a lady in Denham Springs that has a proven line of Catahoulas. These dogs have won every baypen championship there is to win. She sells dogs to hunters and they make great woods dogs. She sells dogs for blood trailing and they make excellent blood trailing dogs. She ships dogs to Ranches in the U.S. and Canada and they excel at being cow dogs. These dogs have a lot of Sandhill in their bloodline which is one of the oldest Cat bloodlines in existence today. She started with a few Sandhill dogs as part of her foundation and through the years has line bred and now has her own
line of dogs. These dogs are very versatile. Litter after litter these dogs have proven themselves at what ever it is their job has turned out to be. Her name is Terri Monaghan. She owns Monaghan Catahoulas. Her number is 225-892-8948. I had a plan similar to yours. I did not want to go through a bunch of dogs to finally get a good one. I have my own line started now off of her dogs and couldn't be happier with their progress. The pups are eight months old and we are fixing to start hunting them in Feb. Pups I sold from my first litter are already hunting and finding their own hogs. Are their better Cats out there? I'm sure they are. I'm just giving you one place to find what your looking for.
Thank you for your information. It will be very helpful for me. She sounds like she has a strain I would be interested in. IVE HAD CATAHOULAS FOR AROUND 15 YEARS, EVER BREED HAS TRASH BUT THERE SEEMS TO BE AN ABUNDANCE OF TRASH IN THE CATAHOULA WORLD. PROBLEM IS THEY ARE PRETTY AN THAT PRETTY COAT AN EYES KEPT ALOT OF DOGS ALIVE ON LOOKS ALONE!
Yes I agree with the color part of your statment, some are so fancy looking that you would want to keep them on that alone, hope I don't do that if I get into them. |
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« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2012, 04:32:19 pm » |
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$1000 cull or a $100 cull take your pick. Its all just luck of the draw, every litter of every bloodline is going to have a cull in it and you can take that to the bank. The dogs/pups that I want to own can not be bought but are entrusted to you as a gift with certain guidelines and it takes alot of time to get em too.
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hunt em hard, give em no excuses, and cull harder!!!!!
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