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« on: January 17, 2012, 11:20:09 pm » |
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Im only 16 and have some dogs I've raised and worked on my own. I've been through several breeds of dogs looking for what i want. I have red bone strike dogs, a red & a brindle cur strike/rcd's, Walker strike dog, lep. cat/cur bay dog, blue heeler(don't laugh  ) help dog, and a SMALL pit, that i hunt. These are what i've kept through 3 years of free dogs. I've only bought 1 and it's my red bone gyp because i wanted to coon hunt but she likes hogs so i don't argue. I started off hunting with guys that paid a lot of money for their dogs to get my dogs started. I started with my little pit gyp that i (found) on the side of the road. Im all about a good deal but i wouldn't trade her for the best blood line in the world. There are dogs that have it and dogs that don't. If they have it they will go and be ready no matter what. If they don't they will take breaks on you and they aren't worth having. Let me know if a bloodline means anything to you, or if you think it's more of how you work with them/raise them....My # is 9032928718. Email:amanofstone4u@aol.com |
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« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2012, 05:59:14 am » |
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Its both the dog has to have hunt and heart to do what we ask of them then it's up to us to put a good handle on them so we make a good hunting team. Good luck
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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2012, 08:40:21 am » |
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Im only 16 and have some dogs I've raised and worked on my own. I've been through several breeds of dogs looking for what i want. I have red bone strike dogs, a red & a brindle cur strike/rcd's, Walker strike dog, lep. cat/cur bay dog, blue heeler(don't laugh ) help dog, and a SMALL pit, that i hunt. These are what i've kept through 3 years of free dogs. I've only bought 1 and it's my red bone gyp because i wanted to coon hunt but she likes hogs so i don't argue. I started off hunting with guys that paid a lot of money for their dogs to get my dogs started. I started with my little pit gyp that i (found) on the side of the road. Im all about a good deal but i wouldn't trade her for the best blood line in the world. There are dogs that have it and dogs that don't. If they have it they will go and be ready no matter what. If they don't they will take breaks on you and they aren't worth having. Let me know if a bloodline means anything to you, or if you think it's more of how you work with them/raise them....My # is 9032928718. Email:amanofstone4u@aol.com From my LITTLE experience, Id say good bloodlines are producing "dogs" with atleast some sort of consistency. Still you must cull good bloodlines very hard to preserve what you want and rid what you dont want. With that being said there is also a dog to dog basis, some high prey drive dogs can learn; even random mutts, and then some dogs just dont have it in em. Id be interested to see what some older folks have to say. They know ALOT more then I know about hunting... |
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« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2012, 08:53:20 am » |
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THis is a difficult question. I think that no matter the bloodline and no matter the training availible, you have to start with a dog that has hunt and prey drive. We take dogs that have these qualities plus other qualities that we like and breed them in hopes of creating pups that have the same genetics as their parents. It doesn't always turn out that way but we still try. If you take a dog that has hunt and prey drive, you can make them a pleasure to handle with some training. Yes, some mutts will inherit hunt and drive and make good hog dogs. They may not be as leggy and have as much bottom as the ones that are bred for those qualities but will hunt all the same. This is alll just my opinion.  |
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ca10j
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« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2012, 08:58:15 am » |
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THis is a difficult question. I think that no matter the bloodline and no matter the training availible, you have to start with a dog that has hunt and prey drive. We take dogs that have these qualities plus other qualities that we like and breed them in hopes of creating pups that have the same genetics as their parents. It doesn't always turn out that way but we still try. If you take a dog that has hunt and prey drive, you can make them a pleasure to handle with some training. Yes, some mutts will inherit hunt and drive and make good hog dogs. They may not be as leggy and have as much bottom as the ones that are bred for those qualities but will hunt all the same. This is alll just my opinion. What is your best advice for getting a handle on a young dog ( 10 mo to a yr ) with high prey drive? As in under normal circumstances hes a superstar listener, but if anything non human or non dog is infront of his eyes or nose he is dam near impossible to command. |
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« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2012, 09:06:53 am » |
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THis is a difficult question. I think that no matter the bloodline and no matter the training availible, you have to start with a dog that has hunt and prey drive. We take dogs that have these qualities plus other qualities that we like and breed them in hopes of creating pups that have the same genetics as their parents. It doesn't always turn out that way but we still try. If you take a dog that has hunt and prey drive, you can make them a pleasure to handle with some training. Yes, some mutts will inherit hunt and drive and make good hog dogs. They may not be as leggy and have as much bottom as the ones that are bred for those qualities but will hunt all the same. This is alll just my opinion. What is your best advice for getting a handle on a young dog ( 10 mo to a yr ) with high prey drive? As in under normal circumstances hes a superstar listener, but if anything non human or non dog is infront of his eyes or nose he is dam near impossible to command. He is still young. Young dogs can be aggrivating. It takes lots of work on the leash and some miles under him. He should settle down. Im not one to worry much about if they listen to me at this age, as long as they get out and hunt. Im there to catch hogs and you cant do that if the dog wont go hunt. Some guys like to start with a good handle and they are the ones who can answer this question for you. Our dogs handles came with repetitive hunting. They just seem to figure it out along the way. |
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« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2012, 10:06:26 am » |
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I like to start my dogs handling as soon as they can bark growl fart do whatever. A good way to start is get them used to basic commands such as sit and stay. You can also teach them tricks. It makes the dog want to listen more when they get older. If he s wantn to chase everything under the sun then you need to trash break him. There are several different methods of doing this that I dont want to get into right now.
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« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2012, 10:58:35 am » |
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Thank you!
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« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2012, 01:05:19 pm » |
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How I see it: Well bred dogs have a higher % of dogs that make good dogs versus a mutt on the street. A dog has to want to find a hog. Well bred dogs tend to have a higher percentage of want to find versus a mutt. An unsocialized dog will be hard to train and hunt thus making hunting enough to find its potential difficult.
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« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2012, 05:45:48 pm » |
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I'm young and don't know much but what i've seen is that my experienced dogs are the ones training my pups, not me. As they become stronger as a pack they have hunted better and handle better as well because they are comfortable with the other dogs decission to approach me and a hog. I've had dogs that wouldn't do anything for a month of hunting regularly but once they were comfortable with the other dogs i saw progress. These are mutts that im talking about. Mutts seem to be smarter to me. They are more confident in themselves because most of mine came from the streets or pounds and they had to use survival skills to live. It seems they have a natural drive to hunt.
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« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2012, 06:08:22 pm » |
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Its both the dog has to have hunt and heart to do what we ask of them then it's up to us to put a good handle on them so we make a good hunting team. Good luck
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
A hunting dog is born not made...
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