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« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2012, 09:06:52 am » |
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« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2012, 09:15:23 am » |
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ya alot of the hunters now days dont even feed there own dogs much less train them . they have hired hands take care of the dogs and the only time they see the dogs they are already loaded in the truck ready to go and they wonder why the dog wont work for them lol .it takes both genetics and training to make a real dog and a little bit of friendship between a man and the dogs he hunts JMO..............
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« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2012, 09:31:00 am » |
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« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2012, 09:33:15 am » |
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ya alot of the hunters now days dont even feed there own dogs much less train them . they have hired hands take care of the dogs and the only time they see the dogs they are already loaded in the truck ready to go and they wonder why the dog wont work for them lol .it takes both genetics and training to make a real dog and a little bit of friendship between a man and the dogs he hunts JMO..............
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« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2012, 09:36:37 am » |
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The funny thing is if you will just get most dogs into good phisical shape they will hunt. I have found a secret about how to get those dogs that just wont get out and hunt. If you need your dog to work better than he does today send him to me. http://www.ushogoutfitters.com/hog-dog-training.htm |
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« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2012, 10:35:08 am » |
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The Dog Trade is filled with people that are looking to buy good strike dogs... You guys that say you can TRAIN any dog to be a hog dog should be making a killing right now!!!  Ha ha ha... I'm still waiting on someone to explain how they train the "hunt" into a dog. "Train" that dog to go a 1/4 mile, 1/2 mile, 1 mile or more looking for a hog. "Train" that dog to put it's nose down and cold trail that hog on a track that 5 other dogs just passed up. "Train" that dog to stick with a runner for hours on end... mile after mile after mile. |
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« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2012, 11:31:43 am » |
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well i hood hunt and you have to train the dogs you work with to hunt the way you want . i wish i could through some young dogs in the truck that would just get up on the hood and strike hog with out haveing to be trained to do it but its not gonna happen . ALL HUNTING DOGS TAKE SOME TRAINING
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« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2012, 11:43:21 am » |
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The Dog Trade is filled with people that are looking to buy good strike dogs... You guys that say you can TRAIN any dog to be a hog dog should be making a killing right now!!! Ha ha ha... I'm still waiting on someone to explain how they train the "hunt" into a dog. "Train" that dog to go a 1/4 mile, 1/2 mile, 1 mile or more looking for a hog. "Train" that dog to put it's nose down and cold trail that hog on a track that 5 other dogs just passed up. "Train" that dog to stick with a runner for hours on end... mile after mile after mile. You will be as old as BoarNinja before someone even tries to answer that!!!   The funny thing is if you will just get most dogs into good phisical shape they will hunt. I have found a secret about how to get those dogs that just wont get out and hunt. If you need your dog to work better than he does today send him to me. http://www.ushogoutfitters.com/hog-dog-training.htm"This training session starts your dog in bay pen for a one week trial to determine if the dog is capable of progress. (If by chance your dog doesn't show any interest in hunting by the end of the first week you will be refunded the remaining 3 weeks fees and your dog will be returned to you.)" Mr. Joe, This is a quote from your training session... If i am taking this wrong, than please correct me... But it sounds like " I will start your dog, but if he doesnt have the WANT TO, then there is no need in completing the training... " Will your secrect not help this type of dog?? |
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« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2012, 11:50:55 am » |
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well i hood hunt and you have to train the dogs you work with to hunt the way you want . i wish i could through some young dogs in the truck that would just get up on the hood and strike hog with out haveing to be trained to do it but its not gonna happen . ALL HUNTING DOGS TAKE SOME TRAINING
IMO, You may be training the dog to get on the hood, but your not training him to HUNT... He does that on his own...  |
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« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2012, 11:55:50 am » |
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Even worse is selling a good started dog and he sits at the end of a chain for 2or 3 months before he gets hunted or only gets hunted once every other month and now you are a crappy peddler or he now becomes a chitty dog.
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« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2012, 11:58:05 am » |
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lol well if thats what you want to believe then thats fine with me but i know how much time i spend getting my dogs to get them the way i want them if you didnt train your dogs they would be some trashy sobs in the woods.YOU CANT MAKE A DOG HUNT BUT YOU HAVE TO TRAIN THE DOG its not all the dog
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« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2012, 12:24:11 pm » |
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YOU CANT MAKE A DOG HUNT BUT YOU HAVE TO TRAIN THE DOG That's exactly what I'm trying to say!!! Trash break them, put a handle on them, etc... But, if they don't have the hunt, drive or "want to" in them... there's nothing you can do to "train" it into them. |
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« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2012, 12:32:22 pm » |
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i agree some dogs just dont have what it takes not all dogs will make hogdogs some are just duds from jump street
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« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2012, 12:34:51 pm » |
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i agree some dogs just dont have what it takes not all dogs will make hogdogs some are just duds from jump street
That's the point I'm trying to make... some folks think you can train any old dog to be a hog dog. |
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« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2012, 12:37:20 pm » |
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i agree some dogs just dont have what it takes not all dogs will make hogdogs some are just duds from jump street
That's the point I'm trying to make... some folks think you can train any old dog to be a hog dog. And if they could, they would be rich right now!!  |
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« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2012, 01:09:08 pm » |
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So how do you go about training a dog who has lost it's confidence? Just curious. Started out on too big of a pig.
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« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2012, 01:11:28 pm » |
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You can only get a knife as sharp as the quality of the blade material will allow. I don't care how good you are at sharpening one.
Working/hunting dogs and horses are the same in that regard. If they have right material to work with then you can sharpen them to a razors edge.
A good dog trainer can bring out the best in a dog but if the best in a dog is still "crap" then why bother? A good trainer will even tell you that!
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« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2012, 02:26:14 pm » |
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Good post T.W. So what if the dog can't or we'll say hasn't found a hog, but will honor and bay up, and get down right gritty when the CD gets there? Do you all think that it is waisting time to keep bringing them if they don't strike the trail? and/or how long do you wait for em to "turn on"? |
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« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2012, 02:34:50 pm » |
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Good post T.W. So what if the dog can't or we'll say hasn't found a hog, but will honor and bay up, and get down right gritty when the CD gets there? Do you all think that it is waisting time to keep bringing them if they don't strike the trail? and/or how long do you wait for em to "turn on"?The only answer I can come up for that is " However long you are willing to feed them " Or you could always send them to a TRAINER, then you only have to wait a month or two....  Im sorry, Im sorry!!! Just cant help my self sometimes... |
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